Pacific Salt saves my dog from being mauled to death...

[QUOTEmetallicat;=Hey this jacked thread is maybe getting to be interesting. My corn is popping and I got my beer. I got no use for people that get all caught up in how big a biter their dog is. I don't let anyone do my fighting. Forget the dog, beware the owner. [/quote]

If you can't see that countries like Australia, England and Germany that ban entire breeds of dogs based on what a few of the breed may have done, are also the ones that are banning all firearms and most edged weapons (even screwdriver carry) based on what a few people have done then you are unseeing and uncaring. Thing is talking with a friend in Australia about what happened to Ming's little dog she said he was illegally carrying that Spyderco salt. I'm not 100% sure about that but based on what I've found I believe she may be right. She says carry of a knife bigger than a Swiss army knife is illegal. (and just where did I ever say I'd allow my dog to bite anyone? You and others think just because a person owns a certain breed of dog they go about letting it fight people? Nothing suprises me about that of course you'd think all dogs of certain breeds are a threat to people and now comes all the macho male ego stuff about how you got bad news weapons to deal with it)

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Based on your asinine assumptions and conclusions as to my position on issues not addressed in my prior post, I would have to flunk you in reading comprehension 101. I never indicated support for banning certain breeds of dog etc., etc. What I said was I don't have any use for people that get all caught up in how big a biter their dog is. A dog is a friend and like all my friends I don't choose them based on race/breed. I can understand that others will select dogs for certain breed specific traits eg sheparding, hunting, police work etc. However, I have no use for people that select a dog based on how big a biter it is, or show an unseemly interest in same. I don't fight dogs and I don't let my dog do my fighting for me.
 
metallicat said:
[QUOTEmetallicat;=Hey this jacked thread is maybe getting to be interesting. My corn is popping and I got my beer. I got no use for people that get all caught up in how big a biter their dog is. I don't let anyone do my fighting. Forget the dog, beware the owner.
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If you can't see that countries like Australia, England and Germany that ban entire breeds of dogs based on what a few of the breed may have done, are also the ones that are banning all firearms and most edged weapons (even screwdriver carry) based on what a few people have done then you are unseeing and uncaring. Thing is talking with a friend in Australia about what happened to Ming's little dog she said he was illegally carrying that Spyderco salt. I'm not 100% sure about that but based on what I've found I believe she may be right. She says carry of a knife bigger than a Swiss army knife is illegal. (and just where did I ever say I'd allow my dog to bite anyone? You and others think just because a person owns a certain breed of dog they go about letting it fight people? Nothing suprises me about that of course you'd think all dogs of certain breeds are a threat to people and now comes all the macho male ego stuff about how you got bad news weapons to deal with it)

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Based on your asinine assumptions and conclusions as to my position on issues not addressed in my prior post, I would have to flunk you in reading comprehension 101. I never indicated support for banning certain breeds of dog etc., etc. What I said was I don't have any use for people that get all caught up in how big a biter their dog is. A dog is a friend and like all my friends I don't choose them based on race/breed. I can understand that others will select dogs for certain breed specific traits eg sheparding, hunting, police work etc. However, I have no use for people that select a dog based on how big a biter it is, or show an unseemly interest in same. I don't fight dogs and I don't let my dog do my fighting for me.[/QUOTE]

I'd sure flunk you as well as where did I state i fought the one pit bull that was given to me, or train her to bite humans. And yes she'd have to be trained to be aggresive to people and even then it wouldn't be an easy task as there's breeds of dogs much more suited for that purpose.
 
"I'd sure flunk you as well as where did I state i fought the one pit bull that was given to me, or train her to bite humans. And yes she'd have to be trained to be aggresive to people and even then it wouldn't be an easy task as there's breeds of dogs much more suited"

And where in my post did I say that you had? Forget flunking reading comprehension 101. You need special remedial reading comprehension. :rolleyes:
 
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Are your mental capacities down to the jerk it emote now bkkd? Of course you would never see the relation between banning a breed of dog and banning other things that can be dangerous when misused or uncared for would you?


nah, its just easier than having to type something to get you going off on a rant mode, ya know, kinda like poking a monkey with a stick...................
 
metallicat said:
Hey this jacked thread is maybe getting to be interesting. My corn is popping and I got my beer. :D I got no use for people that get all caught up in how big a biter their dog is. I don't let anyone do my fighting. Forget the dog, beware the owner. ;)
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Okay you imply since I'm the only one posting about dogs that I'm caught up in "how big of biter" my one pit bull is? When she doesn't ever bite anything that's nonsense.
 
Yea i had a dog years ago that was attacked and killed by my neighbors pit bull. And even i admit it was a very friendly dog, but there's just something inside a pits head that can make them snap. And I've met some super nice pits before, but it's just a matter of time before they go crazy. Its in the breed to be violent and aggressive, and even if they are well behaved most of the time, you can never be too sure. I say MAKE PIT BULLS ILLEGAL. GOod job defending your dog btw, im glad everyone is ok
 
"Okay you imply SINCE I'M THE ONLY ONE POSTING about dogs that I'm caught up in "how big of biter" my one pit bull is? When she doesn't ever bite anything that's nonsense." (emphasis added)

It's called a non sequitur. sigh - as is your apparent perogative, you get the last word. :rolleyes:
 
jarlaxle said:
Yea i had a dog years ago that was attacked and killed by my neighbors pit bull. And even i admit it was a very friendly dog, but there's just something inside a pits head that can make them snap. And I've met some super nice pits before, but it's just a matter of time before they go crazy. Its in the breed to be violent and aggressive, and even if they are well behaved most of the time, you can never be too sure. I say MAKE PIT BULLS ILLEGAL. GOod job defending your dog btw, im glad everyone is ok
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You can move to Australia, England or Germany and they've already made "pit bulls" illegal. Of course so is firearms and most knives as well. Even defending yourself is illegal in England. So what's keeping you here in the USA?
 
jill jackson said:
You can move to Australia, England or Germany and they've already made "pit bulls" illegal. Of course so is firearms and most knives as well. Even defending yourself is illegal in England. So what's keeping you here in the USA?
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AHAHAHAHAH what a joke. I say they should make a violent, kid and pet killing domestic animal illegal and now you ask why I stay in the USA. wow.:jerkit: Hey jill jackson is ignorance is blissful as they talk about??:confused:
 
jarlaxle said:
AHAHAHAHAH what a joke. I say they should make a violent, kid and pet killing domestic animal illegal and now you ask why I stay in the USA. wow.:jerkit: Hey jill jackson is ignorance is blissful as they talk about??:confused:
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You should know if it is because you don't know anything about a pit bull besides some idiot owned one and didn't keep it under control and you say it killed your dog. Or did your dog go after it in it's own yard? I doubt it was even a real pit bull. The only joke in this thread is idiots that think they know it all when they really don't know anything about what they are preaching about.
 
According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:

If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price.


Here's what a little searching will find.

A golden retriever, Labs, heelers, and the like are all like Shotguns, they are great companions, usefull, and should always be legal.

Pit bulls.. well they are more like a fully auto AK-47. Dangerous, violent, and unpredictable. Pit bulls should be like fully auto weapons EXTREMELY ILLEGAL!!
 
jill jackson said:
You should know if it is because you don't know anything about a pit bull besides some idiot owned one and didn't keep it under control and you say it killed your dog. Or did your dog go after it in it's own yard? I doubt it was even a real pit bull. The only joke in this thread is idiots that think they know it all when they really don't know anything about what they are preaching about.
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No actually my dog was tied in my yard, and yes it was a pure bred pit that killed it. Like i said it was a really friendly dog...but then something happened...

Like the study i posted and many many more studies that can be found. Any dog can bite if provoked or not. its the pits and similar breeds that don't stop an attack until it's too late.
 
What should be extremely illegal is stupid people that think they know it all and don't care to learn.
 
jarlaxle said:
No actually my dog was tied in my yard, and yes it was a pure bred pit that killed it. Like i said it was a really friendly dog...but then something happened...

Like the study i posted and many many more studies that can be found. Any dog can bite if provoked or not. its the pits and similar breeds that don't stop an attack until it's too late.
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WELL HERES MY "STUDY" THE BREED FACTOR
Many communities and cities believe that the solution to prevent severe and fatal dog attacks is to label, restrict or ban certain breeds of dogs as potentially dangerous. If the breed of dog was the primary or sole determining factor in a fatal dog attack, it would necessarily stand to reason that since there are literally millions of Rottweilers, Pit Bulls and German Shepherd Dogs in the United States, there would have to be countless more than an approximate 20 human fatalities per year.

Since only an infinitesimal number of any breed is implicated in a human fatality, it is not only unreasonable to characterize this as a specific breed behavior by which judge an entire population of dogs, it also does little to prevent fatal or severe dog attacks as the real causes and events that contribute to a fatal attack are masked by the issue of breed and not seriously addressed.

Pit Bulls in particular have been in a firestorm of bad publicity, and throughout the country Pit Bulls often bear the brunt of breed specific legislation. One severe or fatal attack can result in either restrictions or outright banning of this breed (and other breeds) in a community. While any severe or fatal attack on a person is tragic, there is often a tragic loss of perspective as to degree of dangerousness associated with this breed in reaction to a fatality. Virtually any breed of dog can be implicated in a human fatality.

From 1965 - 2001, there have been at least 36 different breeds/types of dog that have been involved in a fatal attack in the United States. (This number rises to at least 52 breeds/types when surveying fatal attacks worldwide). We are increasingly becoming a society that has less and less tolerance and understanding of natural canine behaviors. Breed specific behaviors that have been respected and selected for over the centuries are now often viewed as unnatural or dangerous. Dogs have throughout the centuries served as protectors and guardians of our property, possessions and families. Dogs have also been used for thousands of years to track, chase and hunt both large and small animals. These natural and selected-for canine behaviors seem to now eliciting fear, shock and a sense of distrust among many people.

There seems to be an ever growing expectation of a "behaviorally homogenized" dog - "Benji" in the shape of a Rottweiler. Breeds of dogs with greater protection instincts or an elevated prey-drive are often unfairly viewed as "aggressive or dangerous". No breed of dog is inherently vicious, as all breeds of dogs were created and are maintained exclusively to serve and co-exist with humans. The problem exists not within the breed of dog, but rather within the owners that fail to control, supervise, maintain and properly train the breed of dog they choose to keep.

CANINE AGGRESSION - AN OVERVIEW
It is important to emphasize that dogs bite today for the same reasons that they did one hundred or one thousand years ago. Dogs are no more dangerous today than they were a century or millennium ago. They only difference is a shift in human perception of what is and is not natural canine behavior and/or aggression and the breed of dog involved.

Examination of newspaper archival records dating back to the 1950’s and 1960’s reveal the same types of severe and fatal attacks occurring then as today. The only difference is the breed of dog responsible for these events. A random study of 74 severe and fatal attacks reported in the Evening Bulletin (Philadelphia, PA) from 1964-1968, show no severe or fatal attacks by Rottweilers and only one attack attributed to a Pit-Bull-type dog. The dogs involved in most of these incidents were the breeds that were popular at the time.

Over two thousand years ago, Plato extolled a basic understanding of canine behavior when he wrote "the disposition of noble dogs is to be gentle with people they know and the opposite with those they don’t know...." Recently, this fundamental principal of canine behavior seems to elude many people as parents allow their children to be unsupervised with unfamiliar dogs and lawmakers clamor to declare certain dogs as dangerous in response to an attack.

Any dog, regardless of breed, is only as dangerous as his/her owner allows it to be.
 
jill jackson said:
What should be extremely illegal is stupid people that think they know it all and don't care to learn.
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mirror hon, look into the mirror..........................

you are so blinded by compassion for your dog and the breed itself that it just cannot be the dogs fault when something happens, thats where your wrong and makes you one of the idiots that you seem to want to try to call everybody else, nevermind somebody elses EXPERIANCES with the dogs.

you are a wanker.........:jerkit:
 
IF some owner let his pit run loose over into anothers yard how was that the dogs fault if they got in a fight? IT looks like it would be the owners fault to me. I have no blindness about my dog if I was stupid enough to allow her to roam about I'd expect her come to no good. People don't take care of most the dogs they own no matter what the breed. It is the owners fault when they get a dog and allow it to roam about and it gets into trouble. The only wanker here is you and your buddies that think you know about dogs and don't know enough to handle any dog.
 
bkkd said:
mirror hon, look into the mirror..........................

you are so blinded by compassion for your dog and the breed itself that it just cannot be the dogs fault when something happens, thats where your wrong and makes you one of the idiots that you seem to want to try to call everybody else, nevermind somebody elses EXPERIANCES with the dogs.

you are a wanker.........:jerkit:
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Well put my man
 
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