Pakistan Damascus, You Guys Are Wrong!

Uath

Uath

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I just received my Marble's Damascus today. People here told me that Pakistan Damascus knives were pretty, but the fit and finish was lousy, and the blade wouldn't hold even sort of an edge.

You're WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

I received my Marble's Cable Damascus today. It's a BEAUTIFUL knife! The fit and finish are excellent. It's a real cable Damascus knife, no question. It's definitely hand made, which I love, but there's not an imperfection to be seen. The stag handles fit wonderfully. The brass hilt-scales are different thicknesses, but that's because an actual human shaped them, by hand, to fit this specific knife.

It's even more beautiful than the picture and the edge is like a razor. I have a sneaking suspicion that the edge will hold every bit as well as any other cable Damascus steel.

Don't go brand-name crazy. Just because a knife maker is from Pakistan, doesn't mean they're shoddy. At least this isn't some mass-produced, factory blade, stamped out of a sheet of processed steel, and ground by a computer. This knife was made by an artist, hand-made, one-of-a-kind, and all for 39$.

This is one of the most beautiful knives I own. I'm proud to show it off.

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If your happy with your knife then that is all that matters , Opinions will vary but the only one that really matters is yours since it is YOUR knife. Enjoy
 
agreed

but the fit of booster is not so good but then again horn shrinks but then again it was not stablized but then again stablized horn shrinks and cracks so.......... i hate knives!

i like yours but then i like them all - odd looking that looks like weird heat treat like lines of clay

ps: i got some hollow ground $25 paki knives that kick butt. hit or miss with foriegn shops some of these guys from knife makers of old. real old....... like before america like before first riech (holy roman empire)
 
Oh, that's not MY knife. I just got the photo from Google. Cable Damascus steel is actually folded from a real steel cable, that's why the look.
 
It looks like a nice enough knife for what you paid for it. If you are happy with it, that is all that matters. After you try it out for awhile, you can post back on your findings as this could be a surprisingly fantastic bargain. Let us know if you would.
 
Uath said:
Oh, that's not MY knife. I just got the photo from Google. Cable Damascus steel is actually folded from a real steel cable, that's why the look.
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Cable damascus is manufactured cheaply. You can make it out of anything really. Just because it's real damascus doesn't mean it was hand made. Chances are this $40 knife was pressed out of a factory.

To be honest your posts are very suspicious, you hail the knife as great yet don't have the product in hand and haven't used it.
It's obvious the knife in the picture was propped up for photoshoot to disguise some flaws.
 
Did someone tell you Pakistani cable damascus was bad? Otherwise their statement would prove to be true.
Much Damascus coming from there is shoddily welded of poor steel
Before declaring everyone wrong, you might want to research why.
 
I fall guilty to the old Norse saying:

"Never praise a sword till it's tried, or a day till it's done"

The nay saying came from another post. Still, this is a beautiful knife.
 
Uath said:
Oh, that's not MY knife. I just got the photo from Google. Cable Damascus steel is actually folded from a real steel cable, that's why the look.
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thanks that is why joined this site too learn what i do not know what i do know may be wrong! thank you! i never seen that before
 
I just tried taking pictures of my new knife... Knife photography is HARD. All I've gotten is glare and total lack of detail. I'll keep trying...
 
The one in the picture looks every bit like a typical "premium" Pakistani piece. Leather quality on the sheath looks iffy, fit of scale to bolster isn't so hot, and I'll be surprised if it holds an edge well. Factory edge sharpness is a poor measure--I can get plastic extremely sharp but it sure won't hold up.

That being said I'm glad you're happy with it, and who knows--it could end up holding an edge well! I'm just not holding my breath and would be suspect of cheap cable damascus since the cable used typically comes in a greased state and the grease must be carefully and completely removed prior to heating and welding or else you end up with dirty poor welds.
 
Paki damascus is notoriously difficult to photograph. That's probably why Chris Reeve and most other known knife-makers don't use it.

Uath said:
I just tried taking pictures of my new knife... Knife photography is HARD. All I've gotten is glare and total lack of detail. I'll keep trying...
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I'm glad that you're happy with your knife. It's not my cup of tea.

Personally, I find it a bit sad that a great American company like Marble's ended up as little more than a name used to market cheap stuff that has nothing to do with its own tradition or particular style. I regret not buying more of their US made 52100 fixed blades, lovely knives for the price. I only have one:

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Luis G. said:
Chances are this $40 knife was pressed out of a factory.

It's obvious the knife in the picture was propped up for photoshoot to disguise some flaws.
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1. There really isnt many "factories" producing knives in pakistan. Its more along the lines of a cottage industry like italian stilettos and Filipino balisongs. They make handmade knives but with crude tools which is why most pakistan knives have the flaws they do. Its simply a matter of low technology. Knives produced in "factories" with modern production methods actually show less flaws due to higher precision.

2. Im curious about your comment that the knife was obviously propped to hide flaws. To me it looks like any other photography work trying to make the knife look appealing. But I dont think most photographers intentions are to deceive. So I ask what about the picture is intentionally deceptive?
 
glad you like it, I am more than happy if I can be proven wrong and a knife turns out to be a decent quality when I have my suspicions otherwise. Great knives can come out of any country just as horrible knives can come out out every country.

those of us who have been around awhile have seen more than enough Pakistan Damascus knives come out whose edge holding capabilities would give butter knives a bad name. And also, judging by the factory photo, where they normally choose the best knife to photograph, I would have guessed them to have bad fit and finish because you can clearly see a bad fit between the bolster and scales. And that's on their SHOW model.

but if it cuts like it should, and you like it, sounds like a good deal. :)
 
Meh, I don't know of ANYTHING I'm interested in owning that comes from Pakistan.
 
PURPLEDC said:
1. There really isnt many "factories" producing knives in pakistan. Its more along the lines of a cottage industry like italian stilettos and Filipino balisongs. They make handmade knives but with crude tools which is why most pakistan knives have the flaws they do. Its simply a matter of low technology. Knives produced in "factories" with modern production methods actually show less flaws due to higher precision.

2. Im curious about your comment that the knife was obviously propped to hide flaws. To me it looks like any other photography work trying to make the knife look appealing. But I dont think most photographers intentions are to deceive. So I ask what about the picture is intentionally deceptive?
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1. Point taken. What I meant is factories that make the cable damascus. There are a few, and they use anything from recycled steel from whatever to pot metals.
You need modern machines to produce in modern production methods, they don't have that.

2. As a amateur/professional photographer, that is exactly what photographers do: Find the best lighting and angles to make the item more appealing by hiding it's ugly sides. Looks like you contradicted your self.

@goodeyesniper:
Pretty much hit the nail on the head. Humans can make crappy or excellent things.
 
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