Para2....yes another thread on availability

In the past 6 months I've bought 4 paramilitary 2's. Received 1 camo/satin paramilitary from Blade HQ in April, 1 from a site called optics planet, and another from a site called amazon. I also was able to purchase a sprint run for a low markup in the exchange. You just gotta stay on top of it, the PM2's are out there!
 
...Someone please explain to them that this is not good for their business.

I strongly suspect that Spyderco has already done the math and, if they are any kind of solid business, understand the impact fully and better than we do.

One thing that has become common over the last decade or two is a better understanding of the impact of supply and demand especially as it relates to inventory storage and the costs associated with that particular aspect. Many companies in many areas of business have come to understand that keeping a high inventory is not particularly cost effective - even if it means some loss of sales. There is a break even point where having the least amount of inventory that disrupts sales the least (understanding that some disruption of sales is acceptable) is a sought after situation in which to find oneself. You see this quite often in the electronics field where sought after items are not supplied in the amount needed to fully satisfy the demand. This isn't an accident. It is a well considered approach to the marketplace.

A lot goes into a sufficiently high inventory that would be needed to assure that everyone gets everything that they want. But businesses have found that they can lose some sales, or at least forestall some portion of immediate sales, and still make more money in the long run by reducing standing inventory. The cost of inventory takes into account materials, labor, loans, storage space & more. The loss of some sales is quite often worth the savings in inventory. This is especially true when a company finds that supply and demand will make their product even more desirable and, on occasion, drive some sales to products that they have some trouble moving. The supply and demand has certainly not made the PM2 less desirable.

It is a science and far more complex than just having enough stuff on hand.

Now, I have no knowledge of how Spyderco views these financial issues. But I strongly suspect that they have looked at them in some extensive detail and have a solid business plan in place to make the most money given their particulars.

JMO.
 
I strongly suspect that Spyderco has already done the math and, if they are any kind of solid business, understand the impact fully and better than we do.

I agree. My understanding is that production in Golden has been negatively impacted temporarily while they expand the plant to increase their capacity.
 
I'll wait. I just got on the list for a Brn Para2 at New Graham Knives.
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A very reputable dealer has posted four black/satin Para2's for sale. They are not a sponsor though so I cannot post the link. PM for details although I doubt they will last long.
 
I strongly suspect that Spyderco has already done the math


I hope for everybody's sake that they have a good dose of luck to go with that.

I worked for a company for over 10 years. That company lived high while the business was good, but they didn't do what they needed to do in order to maintain customers and when the economy tanked their business tanked. I worked hard for almost 2 years at less than minimum wage, then finally gave up and found another job. So a company can think they are doing good but one day they are sitting there wondering where all of the customers went.
 
I found the exact model I wanted brand new for sale about a month or two ago. Only $130 for satin digital camo in S30v.
 
They really are NOT that hard to find. I've haven't been searching for them at all, and I've already been through two in the last 2 months. (sold one to fund a ZT0560CBCF, then got another one in a trade)

Here's the one I just traded for.

 
They really are NOT that hard to find. I've haven't been searching for them at all, and I've already been through two in the last 2 months. (sold one to fund a ZT0560CBCF, then got another one in a trade)

Here's the one I just traded for.


Can't get over how nice that looks
 
54 minutes ago I received an email from a store that sells spydercos that they were in stock. By the time I saw the email and checked the website, they were sold out again. They are out there, you just cant be lazy
 
54 minutes ago I received an email from a store that sells spydercos that they were in stock. By the time I saw the email and checked the website, they were sold out again. They are out there, you just cant be lazy

Yeah, they are out there, but they seem to always sell out within an hour.
 
Ok, I am now convinced that the dealer is totally at fault here. A few other threads confirm the rainforest is not reliable for waiting lists. I'm sorry to Spyderco, and hope you all forgive me now.
 
This is a ridiculous and immature post. A company can do whatever they want and knowing Spyderco that will be the most fair thing they can come up with. I bet the Para wouldn't be nearly as popular if it weren't for all the threads on availability and how they are impossible to get ( which isn't true). What's the saying? Even bad publicity is good publicity.

Spyderco is making the Para as fast as they can, and they send out orders to retailers in small batches so that they all can get at least some. If your retailer doesn't do a good job with pre orders or waiting lists, how is that Spyderco fault? I hear about pre orders every where, yet most stores put them for sale directly on their site. That would seem to imply that the pre orders aren't being filled first or there would never be any for sale on the website.

And what about all the custom makers? They have closed books and people that have been waiting many months or years to get a knife. And those same makers show up to knife shows with handfuls of knives to sell. Guess none of those knives should be there and they should have all gone to the customers waiting for a knife. That would make for a pretty lame knife show, not having any knives. Part off a knife show is showing off product and rewarding fans that have made the journey to come see them.

I realize their are some younger teenagers on the forums as well as grown men. But it seems like just about everyone complains about not getting something fast enough, or waiting for the mail man. Sounds more like a bunch of elementary age kids on Christmas. What happened to waiting? Just forget about it. Grow up. Pray that the biggest problem you have is not getting a knife fast enough. People are going hungry, and having their homes destroyed by floods and tornados, or dying from cancer.

And it isn't hard to get a Para if you put some time in looking. I bet I can have one in a week from a reputable dealer. And I will only charge a very reasonable finder fee :)


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I realize their are some younger teenagers on the forums as well as grown men. But it seems like just about everyone complains about not getting something fast enough, or waiting for the mail man. Sounds more like a bunch of elementary age kids on Christmas. What happened to waiting? Just forget about it. Grow up. Pray that the biggest problem you have is not getting a knife fast enough. People are going hungry, and having their homes destroyed by floods and tornados, or dying from cancer.

And it isn't hard to get a Para if you put some time in looking. I bet I can have one in a week from a reputable dealer. And I will only charge a very reasonable finder fee :)


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