Paragon vs evenheat

razor-edge-knives said:
oh man, good points!! have you contacted Evenheat? if so, what did they say?
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They were somewhat helpful. They immediately sent me a new thermocouple free of charge. Although it didn't help.

Since I am relatively close they said I could bring it up and they'd take a look at both the temp and tap issues. I never took them up on it. Once I got it dialed in the HT was fine after I reset the initial temp by unplugging it. I still have to reset every time.

Also, all my programs are saved so it only takes a couple imputs to start..still 20 - 40 touches. I will say that there are times where lately that it has been registering my touches after just 2 or 3.

glassfusingaus said:
Hi Mike, was just browsing doing research for a new knife kiln I'm designing (we are in Australia - it won't be being sold in the US) and saw your post about the troubles with the TAP controller - they are crap... but fairly easy to fix your problems. I don't know how to message you directly - so I'll just post it here: First up, please upgrade your firmware to the latest version if you can. If you can't because it won't register your finger its harder but not impossible. Once you have upgraded your firmware just turn it on and off 5 times (full boot up) without touching the screen and it will open the diagnostic which lets you recalibrate your touch screen. We have also found some issues with two other evenheats using the TAP controller where the wiring to the controller screen was rubbish and just needed redoing - which fixed all the issues those kilns were having. Every wire that goes to the screen is either low or no voltage, so you are safe to take a look - unplug it first just in case.

hopefully that fixes it - the TAP controller was a great idea, just really poorly implemented.

Cheers Ash.
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Thank you Ash. I will definitely try this. I'm comfortable rewiring if necessary.
 
Has anyone used Paragon's sentinel touch screen controller? It looks like it's standard on some models now.
 
I recently got an evenheat lb18 and absolutely love it. The tap controller is sweet and the app is pretty decent for android. The LB has a different coil set up. I have 220v and it gets up to 2000 in about 45 min.
 
Considering this is the most rwcent comparison thread I figured it might be the right place to ask about this, I am stuck between getting an evenheat lb27 and a paragon xpress 24t. I have heard the benefits the higher end models have over each other, but with them both configured with the 3 button, solid state relay and shutoff switch, how would those 2 compare? I was going to go for the paragon but the price increase put both of these at roughly the same price point...
I have heard strong opinions both ways, and people also saying either company is good, so it is tough to pull the trigger on this kind of investment without a clear frontrunner...
Any opinions or insight would be so greatly appreciated!
 
@J. Keeton I recently got a knifedogs furnace. I picked it up for less than half price new.
It’s made by paragon and has the sentry 12 key.

I bought it because I wanted a second furnace and I got it at a good price

In my opinion the Sentry 12 key is overly complicated and I don’t really care for it. It should have an easy mode for set point which is 99% of how and what i use a heat treat furnace for.

also the temp drop is too dramatic when you open the door to put a blade in. This is the biggest negative for me.

Otherwise it works fine and it does the job particularly for the price I paid

i still much prefer my lindberg muffle furnace.
 
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razor-edge-knives said:
What are the advantages to that over the evenheat? And how much more expensive for a comparable model?
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Looking back at this thread I just realized one of the benefits of having the elements hidden behind the refractory

when you open the door to put blades in or take out, there is little temperature drop or change. I think this is a benefit to a Knifemaker.
 
HSC /// said:
Looking back at this thread I just realized one of the benefits of having the elements hidden behind the refractory

when you open the door to put blades in or take out, there is little temperature drop or change. I think this is a benefit to a Knifemaker.
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Other benefit is that they have better heat uniformity , and blade was protected from direct heat radiation from elements . And most important is that if you heat treat multiple knives they faster get to set temperature .I mean all blade will heat almost in same rate , which is impossible in oven with HT elements on side walls
 
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