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Passaround 3
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wildmanh
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Got your email with your address. I'll send the knife onto you when the new sheath is finished.
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Wildmanh - read your posts in the other threads. Wanted to let you know not to feel obligated to make a sheath for this passaround if you're short on cash and time. It was a kind offer and there would be no disgrace if you wanted to change your mind. Sometimes it's good to just get something off your plate.
wildmanh
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Thanks Bric! My plate is looking pretty good, I just need to spend my down time a little better. Gosh I could have had one of the sheaths made last night while mom and I watched TV for 3 hours. I'll get them done this week, if not, they'll go out. Thanks again for thinking of me.
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wildmanh
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The knife, new sheath and old one are on their way to Bric's and my Passaround sheathing thread has been updated with more pictures.
When I first got the knife I thought it was cool but didn't think I would take to it as much I had. Was a little sad to see it go. The first little while that I had the knife I thought it was quality but not for me. After 2 weeks (extra time to build the sheath and medical crap) it really grew on me. Thats probably going to be the case with the other one also. LOL!! I think #3 is a good hunting/camping knife! It will process game or veggies well, handle making fuzz sticks and feels good in my hands. Took a while to sharpen where I wanted it to be so I know that the hardness is good. There are a few things like blade length (could be longer), or the slight recurve, that I don't like, but that wouldn't stop me from owning one. It's a nice knife!!
When I first got the knife I thought it was cool but didn't think I would take to it as much I had. Was a little sad to see it go. The first little while that I had the knife I thought it was quality but not for me. After 2 weeks (extra time to build the sheath and medical crap) it really grew on me. Thats probably going to be the case with the other one also. LOL!! I think #3 is a good hunting/camping knife! It will process game or veggies well, handle making fuzz sticks and feels good in my hands. Took a while to sharpen where I wanted it to be so I know that the hardness is good.
There are a few things like blade length (could be longer), or the slight recurve, that I don't like, but that wouldn't stop me from owning one. It's a nice knife!!
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[size=+1]Inside my mailbox[/size] today I found Passaround #3. Inside the package was the knife and two sheaths (original and wildmanh's). The blade was sheathed in wildmanh's. I couldn't help but stop and admire the fantastic and beautiful work on the sheath, the lines are perfect, the stiching even and neat as possible, the leather soft to the touch, but durable and thick. It's a nice sheath. I'm going to have to start having all my knives shipped to wildmanh before they come to me :encouragement:
[size=+1]The original[/size] sheath was perfectly functional on this knife; it has a frog and secures the knife adequately. Compared to wildmanh's, though, it's loose, crumpled, ill-fitting, flimsy and pathetic. wildmanh's fits it like a glove with just a wee bit of stretch to secure the strap which is attached to the frog above the lip of the sheath to inexorably secure the blade within.
[size=+1]My first impression[/size] of this knife, after handling it, was "I like it. I like it a lot." At 9 inches long, it is the perfect length and weight for a woodsman utility knife. Fit and finish are near perfect with some dried laha around the buttcap and nut as noted by Berkley, but otherwise without any ridges, rough spots or blemishes. It's developed a heck of a patina since the original photos in this thread.
[size=+1]The blade begs[/size] to bite wood - and deep - despite it's small size. And it does not disappoint when it hits. The convex edge and nicely bellied blade easily sink into wood and the knife swings smoothly and almost like an acrobatic axe...the balance and weight almost make it feel like handling air, however it swings with force and digs deep. It was not as sharp as I like it out of the package, but it didn't need to be "stropped" sharp to bury itself to its shoulders.
[size=+1]The balance[/size] point is right on the guard and the length and width fit in my hand like it was custom made. The handling of this blade is amazing, it could easily be used as a martial blade in my opinion, it just wants to dance in my hands. Balancing the blade on one hand and taking a picture with the other was pretty tricky but anythime it started to fall, a little roll of my hand was all it took to regain a solid grip - it's like the handle was snapping back into my hand as if attached by rubber bands.
[size=+1]Even though[/size] the knife was not properly sharp to be carving wood I thought I would try a few cuts to see how it felt. It's no surprise that it felt just right and actually cut dried wood pretty well for a blade that I could run my thumb along the edge of with some pressure and still not get cut. It's nice to be able to use my left thumb to put pressure on the blade.
[size=+1]A few cuts[/size] turned into continuing to complete a pattern on this walking stick. Even though I should have been making dinner or at least sharpening the knife before continuing I couldn't stop. It was an enjoyable session cutting wood.
[size=+1]Some days are good.[/size] Passaround #3 wasn't the only surprise waiting for me in the mailbox today. Here's the end of the knife and the end of my first report. As you make note of the unusual (for HI) method to secure the tang, I will retire for the evening with a good book.
[size=+1]The original[/size] sheath was perfectly functional on this knife; it has a frog and secures the knife adequately. Compared to wildmanh's, though, it's loose, crumpled, ill-fitting, flimsy and pathetic. wildmanh's fits it like a glove with just a wee bit of stretch to secure the strap which is attached to the frog above the lip of the sheath to inexorably secure the blade within.
[size=+1]My first impression[/size] of this knife, after handling it, was "I like it. I like it a lot." At 9 inches long, it is the perfect length and weight for a woodsman utility knife. Fit and finish are near perfect with some dried laha around the buttcap and nut as noted by Berkley, but otherwise without any ridges, rough spots or blemishes. It's developed a heck of a patina since the original photos in this thread.
[size=+1]The blade begs[/size] to bite wood - and deep - despite it's small size. And it does not disappoint when it hits. The convex edge and nicely bellied blade easily sink into wood and the knife swings smoothly and almost like an acrobatic axe...the balance and weight almost make it feel like handling air, however it swings with force and digs deep. It was not as sharp as I like it out of the package, but it didn't need to be "stropped" sharp to bury itself to its shoulders.
[size=+1]The balance[/size] point is right on the guard and the length and width fit in my hand like it was custom made. The handling of this blade is amazing, it could easily be used as a martial blade in my opinion, it just wants to dance in my hands. Balancing the blade on one hand and taking a picture with the other was pretty tricky but anythime it started to fall, a little roll of my hand was all it took to regain a solid grip - it's like the handle was snapping back into my hand as if attached by rubber bands.
[size=+1]Even though[/size] the knife was not properly sharp to be carving wood I thought I would try a few cuts to see how it felt. It's no surprise that it felt just right and actually cut dried wood pretty well for a blade that I could run my thumb along the edge of with some pressure and still not get cut. It's nice to be able to use my left thumb to put pressure on the blade.
[size=+1]A few cuts[/size] turned into continuing to complete a pattern on this walking stick. Even though I should have been making dinner or at least sharpening the knife before continuing I couldn't stop. It was an enjoyable session cutting wood.
[size=+1]Some days are good.[/size] Passaround #3 wasn't the only surprise waiting for me in the mailbox today. Here's the end of the knife and the end of my first report. As you make note of the unusual (for HI) method to secure the tang, I will retire for the evening with a good book.
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[size=+1]I sharpened [/size] the blade using 150-600 sandpaper on mousepad and stop which had the effect of polishing out much of the patina from the previous use.
[size=+1]Sharp enough to shave[/size] hairs off the back of my hand, the blade worked well on "macro" carvings in the wood like cutting rings or finger grooves (instead of the Buck I usually use for this task).
[size=+1]I prefer the scandi grind [/size] on the Buck to the convex edge on the HI for carving. The scandi gives a sharper and cleaner "bite" and results frequently in a cleaner cut. I preferred the size and shape of the fixed blade HI (blade and handle) to the Buck for these tasks, though. The convex edge on the HI did *not* seem to maintain the edge any better than the Buck. Even though I routinely worked it on the stop while carving, it did not maintain it's shaving-sharp edge. Currently it is probably duller than when I received it. Neither the Buck nor the HI Bird and Trout is a substitute for the Butz designed-for-woodcarving knife when it comes to the detailed work. I completed the project using the HI knife and the Butz and some gouges.
[size=+1]Since I had [/size] the tung oil/mineral pirit mixture out for the stick, I finely sanded the handle and butt of the Bird and Trout and applied a coat of the mixture to the handle. The wood was either pretty dense or already well oiled because it was not very thirsty. The wood had a lot of rouge in it that came off while sanding so I'm guessing that this would already have come off if it was well oiled. I wonder what kind of wood this is anyway. It is very handsome.
[size=+1]The sanding [/size] of the handle may have cleaned up some of the excehh laha by the buttcap, but it seems that there are imperfections/grooves in the buttcap that laha is filling rather than just laha spilling out.
[size=+1]Howard Wallace [/size] please send me your addess so I can send you a bill for the Blackjack or Randall that I am inclined to buy now
. Seriously, though thanks for sending this around. I enjoyed working with it and I will probably pick up one of the "official" models one of these days - as well as, perhaps, an HI version if one ever comes out.
No more passarounds for me, these are too expensive
[size=+1]Sharp enough to shave[/size] hairs off the back of my hand, the blade worked well on "macro" carvings in the wood like cutting rings or finger grooves (instead of the Buck I usually use for this task).
[size=+1]I prefer the scandi grind [/size] on the Buck to the convex edge on the HI for carving. The scandi gives a sharper and cleaner "bite" and results frequently in a cleaner cut. I preferred the size and shape of the fixed blade HI (blade and handle) to the Buck for these tasks, though. The convex edge on the HI did *not* seem to maintain the edge any better than the Buck. Even though I routinely worked it on the stop while carving, it did not maintain it's shaving-sharp edge. Currently it is probably duller than when I received it. Neither the Buck nor the HI Bird and Trout is a substitute for the Butz designed-for-woodcarving knife when it comes to the detailed work. I completed the project using the HI knife and the Butz and some gouges.
[size=+1]Since I had [/size] the tung oil/mineral pirit mixture out for the stick, I finely sanded the handle and butt of the Bird and Trout and applied a coat of the mixture to the handle. The wood was either pretty dense or already well oiled because it was not very thirsty. The wood had a lot of rouge in it that came off while sanding so I'm guessing that this would already have come off if it was well oiled. I wonder what kind of wood this is anyway. It is very handsome.
[size=+1]The sanding [/size] of the handle may have cleaned up some of the excehh laha by the buttcap, but it seems that there are imperfections/grooves in the buttcap that laha is filling rather than just laha spilling out.
[size=+1]Howard Wallace [/size] please send me your addess so I can send you a bill for the Blackjack or Randall that I am inclined to buy now
. Seriously, though thanks for sending this around. I enjoyed working with it and I will probably pick up one of the "official" models one of these days - as well as, perhaps, an HI version if one ever comes out.No more passarounds for me, these are too expensive
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Sharpened the bird and trout knife last night and dropped it off at the post office at lunchtime today. Condition as sent out:handle sanded and oiled as depicted above and blade sharpened and polished (edge and belly sanded and stropped - there must be a slight "dip" in the center of the belly of the blade where there remains some patina that the strop did not polish out while sharpening/polishing - can be seen in the top picture from my second report).
VTguy - it's on its way! (the book was not included)
VTguy - it's on its way! (the book was not included)
Since I'm the last person on the list where does it go when I'm finished. I get to keep it right
Probably back to Howard if noone signs up after you.
deltablade
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wonder if I could get on the list as well?
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You're on!
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Picked up #3 at the post office last night. Bric I must say, what a beautiful job you did on the handle! and the new sheath (Awesome work wildmanh!!!) is very nice and very functional. The knife came in excellent condition and adequately sharp. I took it to the kitchen last night and prepared some chowder, then some Asian orange chicken using nothing but the bird knife. I must say I am very impressed so far at the feel and balance of this knife. I don't know if it is just me but this thing fits in my hand perfectly I absolutely love the feel and it made very short work of food prep as expected. I took a bunch of pictures that will go in my final report and I will get the knife out hunting either tomorrow or for the weekend. Hopefully there will be some small game skinning and cleaning, fire prep, etc.... I look forward to using it some more and it's sad but now I want one to keep and I've only had it in the kitchen so far! I'm going to hate to pass this one along....
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I can sympathize with that feeling!
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I received the trout and bird hunter on the 12th in excellent condition and adequately sharp. There was a very slight patina to the blade, I didn't bother sharpening it yet since it had a decent edge already and I was anxious to put it to work. My first impressions of the knife were all excellent as expected. Fit and finish, ergonomics etc... all excellent. I need a knife that is good in the kitchen and good in the woods and this knife fit's the bill as you will see in my pictures. The original sheath is pretty bad, ugly, very poorly made, and stitched however it will do the job if need be. Thankfully wildmanh made an excellent sheath for the knife that I absolutely love.
Here is the knife as I received it
For this special occasion I broke out an old bottle of 2007 Brother Adams honey barley wine, brewed in Bar harbor, Maine...mmmmm
I love to cook it's one of my passions, Tonight's menu was Asian orange chicken and I was also making a squash,bean, and corn chowder to have for lunch during the week. The knife just has a great feel in my hands and was very comfortable to use for an extended period of time in the kitchen. The hand guard is nice to have when drinking barley wine and preparing food Just a few sample pictures of the hunter on kitchen duty:
Some chicken breast
Jalepenos
Peppers and onions
I will spare you guys the rest of the food prep pictures I figure that's enough but there was nothing the knife couldn't handle with ease. Now this probably wouldn't be my go-to kitchen knife since it's kind of small but it was a pleasure to use in the kitchen and I love the handle and convex grind. A very positive experience.
Here is the knife as I received it
For this special occasion I broke out an old bottle of 2007 Brother Adams honey barley wine, brewed in Bar harbor, Maine...mmmmm
I love to cook it's one of my passions, Tonight's menu was Asian orange chicken and I was also making a squash,bean, and corn chowder to have for lunch during the week. The knife just has a great feel in my hands and was very comfortable to use for an extended period of time in the kitchen. The hand guard is nice to have when drinking barley wine and preparing food
Just a few sample pictures of the hunter on kitchen duty:Some chicken breast
Jalepenos
Peppers and onions
I will spare you guys the rest of the food prep pictures I figure that's enough but there was nothing the knife couldn't handle with ease. Now this probably wouldn't be my go-to kitchen knife since it's kind of small but it was a pleasure to use in the kitchen and I love the handle and convex grind. A very positive experience.
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