Patrol Bag Advice

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JSmith88

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If this is not the correct forum for this I apologize. Thanks in advance if anyone makes it all the way through this.

My AO is a small city, with a high crime, homeless, unemployment, and welfare rate. I live right next door to my business, and my home and office while in a good area are on the edge of a deteriorating area. Moving is not an option as we have been at this location for over 100 years. If I'm out on a day to day basis, I'm at the most 10 miles from my office and home.

If there was to be a major incident, we have a police force that is stretched thin already, and in the past looting during even small storms or prolonged power outages has been a documented issue. I personally have had people try to steal my generator during 3 seperate storms, and have noticed plenty of people walking through my parking lots following storms looking for where the sound of the generators are coming from.

My objective is to protect my own property and assist my immediate neighbors and local family if need be.



My thinking is that I need to be able to carry First Aid, a limited amount of food, water, inclement weather gear. Magazines for my weapons, and some sort of communication device. Most likely a Yaesu handheld HAM radio. Of course my ESEE-3 or ESEE-5 will get strapped on there somewhere, and my Izula now resides in my pocket or horizontal carried on my belt since I got it.

I'm basing the system on a Maxpedition Falcon II.

Add on Pouches

Planning on adding a double M4 Mag Pouch this will be mounted on Weak Side
holding 2 30rnd PMags

Double Pistol Mag Pouch Will be mounted weak side above M4 Mag Pouch
for 2 H&K USP45 Mags

Maxped FR-1 Pouch on Strong Side Bottom for FAK and Trauma Kit

Maxped CP-L for holding the Yaesu

Setting this up to be a simple light weight patrol bag in case of SHTF.

Does this sound like a logical Patrol bag setup, and is there anything anyone would ad?

I'm not looking to play Mall Ninja or Police and patrol the city, merely looking to carry what I need to protect my own property and meet any challenges that arise.
 
your neighborhood sounds like a demilitarized zone. and what you have listed looks like a good idea to have, and maybe flashlights of some sorts.
 
JSmith88 said:
we have been at this location for over 100 years.
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First off, your old as hell.:D

Anyway, your area sounds alot like mine. I'm in a nice neighborhood on the edge of the abyss and often times, crap crawls out of the abyss and walks my streets.

The only addition would be, as gundude said, a decent flashlight and it sounds like you have a decent little go bag.:thumbup:
 
Fire kit of your liking-meds you may need personally-and like others said flashlight(I prefer a headlamp for hands free) & extra batteries you may need for all devices- I'm just going over in my mind what I have in my BOB.
 
Should have worded that better, the family business and home has been at the same location for over 100 years.

I have a Surefire 6P with the Malkoff M-60 dropin with a larue mount on my AR, and a Nitecore D10 that I EDC. I have spotlights on all the corners of my business, and I can control them from remote if need be. Also have a few Surefire G2s stashed around the office and my home. I keep a large stockpile of CR123s on hand as well along with a couple extra Incadescent drop ins for the G2s and 6P in a pinch.

On a day to day basis, it is just another decent area being encroached upon by the scum of the earth, but if there was ever a serious break down or disaster, it would turn into a plague in a day. I'm preparing for the latter.

Thanks for the look over, I thought I had covered most of my bases as far as the bag and the pouches went. I appreciate the advice on the items in the kit, alot I had not previously thought of.

I also have a Mixmatch Plate Carrier setup which I can carry 6 AR mags and 4 Pistol Mags on with a drop leg attachment for my H&K USP45.

Oh the joys of being a grownup and having a family and business. Can I please go back to being a kid agin:yawn:
 
yeah with what you added in your secind post it sounds good, maybe just to double up in some things, and to have some tactical bacon! :D
 
I'm trying to convince the SO to let me buy a whole pig this year and have it butchered. BACON! She does not care for the sacred meat, and as such has denied my request on numerous occasions. I'm working on bribing her with sharp and shiny objects.
 
IF it was me, I would leave the magazines off the pack. Get a small bandoleer that will hold 3 mags or whatever, something you can throw over your shoulder. If you're going out to check something, you don't need to be hauling your food and supplies. Your long arm should have a light on it as well. You can get a Surefire G2 for around $35 and can be stored with the magazine bandoleer for those times you want a light and don't need to cover something with a muzzle.

Something to think about-If you're taking the rifle out, why aren't you putting on your plate carrier to begin with?
 
TacticalSquirrel said:
Something to think about-If you're taking the rifle out, why aren't you putting on your plate carrier to begin with?
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I would lean toward this, too. Assuming something has happened already and you are leaving cover (home/office) to check something or patrol your property, I think I'd have a good plate carrier/armor on with a decent molle system, something like the Eagle LE Plate carrier. I'd put the AR mags on pouches in the front of that.

I like the idea of having the pack with you just in case something might go wrong (you can't exactly live in suburbia USA wearing a plate carrier all the time. But, once the event goes down and it's bad enough for the cops to be so tied up they aren't responding to individual 911 calls for help from residents, THEN, I think it's time to don the battle rattle.

The following isn't a criticism, I'm genuinely curious: I know nothing about HAM radios, with whom can you communicate with that portable unit? Just like-minded folks that might could help? Or does it somehow get you connected to the authorities?

You mentioned a first aid kit. I would focus this on a small, but vital trauma (gunshot kit). I like the blow-out kits from tacticalresponsegear.com. If you are on your property, you are theoretically close to your ouchie supplies so you really just need to make sure you can survive long enough to get there. Israeli bandages, tourniquet, maybe clotting agent, shears, gauze and pads. This all compacts tightly in a solidly-built case that affixes to your vest, drop leg rig, whatever.
Like this:
http://www.tacticalresponsegear.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37_118&products_id=3130

The bare bones, good to keep with you any time you have a firearm around.
http://www.tacticalresponsegear.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37_118&products_id=2136
 
Sounds like you have some good intel on your AO and seem to be doing the right things to keep yourself safe. I would add 1 -2 good high power LED flashlights, plenty of extra batteries, one with a highly pronounced front bezel ring for strike capability like the Surefire E2D LED Defender. Maybe add 1-2 small cans of pepper spray for slightly more minor incidents, where a sidearm or shotgun might attract to much attention and they make for a decent backup. You also metioned a first aid kit, on top of the usual items you might think of adding a blowout kit for severe trauma situations. Try www.itstactical.com, they run a self defence / reliance web site and are Navy Seals. They make a great blowout kit that runs around $100 and is first rate. It's something you could carry in a drop leg pouch on your off side for easy access.
 
333rm said:
Sounds like you have some good intel on your AO and seem to be doing the right things to keep yourself safe. I would add 1 -2 good high power LED flashlights, plenty of extra batteries, one with a highly pronounced front bezel ring for strike capability like the Surefire E2D LED Defender. Maybe add 1-2 small cans of pepper spray for slightly more minor incidents, where a sidearm or shotgun might attract to much attention and they make for a decent backup. You also metioned a first aid kit, on top of the usual items you might think of adding a blowout kit for severe trauma situations. Try www.itstactical.com, they run a self defence / reliance web site and are Navy Seals. They make a great blowout kit that runs around $100 and is first rate. It's something you could carry in a drop leg pouch on your off side for easy access.
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A couple cans of pepper spray? Where will you be carrying it that it will be accessible? How do you plan to use it when two hands are on a weapon. There are better methods, and pepper shouldn't be in the picture during a confrontation where you've got your rifle out.

Also, once you start putting on gear like plate carriers, it starts to make it more difficult to reach opposite legs, FYI. Most that use some form of a trauma kit currently wear them right on the armor, and fewer and fewer are even wearing subloads or thigh rigs. Too many headaches with subloads.
 
The extra mags on the bag are a Just in Case. I have taken a couple of carbine classes, and having a crap ton of mags on a chest rig makes going prone a pain. I'd rather run a flatter chest rig and then carry surplus mags on the side of my pack. I don't plan on doing Mag dumps in the middle of my AO.

I do plan on building a plate carrier rig, with a drop leg eventually. I'm waiting on paperwork right now for my Trust so I can get suppressors for my USP, AR, and a .22 bolt action I'm going to build. Also going to build a SBR larue Stealth, which will become my go to gun.
 
TacticalSquirrel said:
A couple cans of pepper spray? Where will you be carrying it that it will be accessible? How do you plan to use it when two hands are on a weapon. There are better methods, and pepper shouldn't be in the picture during a confrontation where you've got your rifle out.

Also, once you start putting on gear like plate carriers, it starts to make it more difficult to reach opposite legs, FYI. Most that use some form of a trauma kit currently wear them right on the armor, and fewer and fewer are even wearing subloads or thigh rigs. Too many headaches with subloads.
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The pepper spray is mostly a backup should you need it. They aren't that big, you can put the thing in your pocket. When your in a trauma situation your not on the run taking out targets, your on the ground applying first aid. I think he can handle getting the kit out of his pouch with his left hand. I'm a Marine with combat experience so I've tried these things a time or two. It was an idea, he can wear it anywear he wants. Our whole unit wore our blowout kits on our off side in our drop leg rigs. Most guys in the sandbox wear some sort of subload, even if it's just a sidearm since you need all the rool you can get.
 
I'm not looking for a fight or trouble. If you are on the opposite side of the street I'm not going to get involved. If you come on my property in a SHTF situation, pepper spray is not in my escalation of force. If someone trespassed right now, I'd call the detective that works part time for me and have a patrol car come out and deal with it. This bag is strictly for a SHTF scenario.

I'm a firm believer in high speed low drag. I have a weapon lights on my pistol and rifle with spare CR123s. I keep a nitecore in my pocket, and a Quark mini in my bag. I have G2s and stuff scattered around my home and office.

I appreciate the input keep it coming.
 
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