Patrol Machete - Awesome !!!!!

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Well, Thanks to Rick and Cheryl of CR Specialties, I got my Becker Patrol Machete this afternoon. My first impression, upon seeing the knife box was "Man, that's gotta be a damn big knife." I opened the box and there it was, an awesome looking piece of craftsmanship that was screaming "Use Me, Use Me!!!" The box was a little misleading, because on opening it, I found the Patrol Machete to be perfectly sized and comfortable to wield. I tested the edge on my forearm and it promptly removed a patch of hair about 2.5" in diameter, the edge was razor sharp along it's entire length with very even grind lines.

On the way home, I stopped at one of my hunting spots to do a quick test with this incredible blade. On woody saplings and dead wood, performance was great. Deep cuts, clean and neat, with a relatively big and easy to hit with sweet spot. 1" saplings severed with one blow. On pithy vines and briars, it routinely cut them almost all the way thru, but they gave at the last fraction of a second and basically folded over on the cuts. I chopped away for about 45 minutes, ungloved, and had no problems with discomfort in the arm or hand, and no hot spots from the grip. Testing the edge after that workout, it still shaves hair readily with absolutely no evidence of chipping or rollover.

The only thing I personally didn't like completely was the sheath. The sheath is reinforced nylon and it fits around the grip perfectly and snaps tight and secure. However, the blade fits into the sheath kind of sloppily? (is that a word?) and it rattles quite a bit. I'm sure the sheath could be restitched to tighten it down on the blade somewhat to minimize this rattle.

Overall, I'm happier than a bush hog in **** with this blade. It's perfect for my applications.

My digicam isn't performing up to specs, so I'll try to post a few pics later tonight or tomorrow.


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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.
 
A few more points to make:

The sheath has some ALICE clip attachment points that I didn't notice before ... nice surprise.

I cleaned the blade with some RemOil because I thought the finish took a beating from the little workout I gave it. Another nice surprise, the blade finish isn't marred at all. Unless you look really close you can't tell it's been used at all.

None of my outdoor shots came out, but I managed to get a couple pics of the blade and sheath. They can be seen here:

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/sgtmike88

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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.
 
SgtMike,
You are ALMOST there buddy.....read the post about the CONTEST......

http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000625.html


.....'action pic'[anything showing the knife being, or about to be used, not just sitting on the table], your close...but no cigar! And the pic must be POSTED, ie viewed here on the forum.....not just a link. I'm gonna make you work for this one!
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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery
www.camillusknives.com

[This message has been edited by Will Fennell (edited 04-12-2001).]
 
No Matter, Will. As you can see from one of the pics, I bought a Cuda Arclite, too . My cam's messed so I think I'm outta the competition. Heck, I can't even figure out how to post it here anyways. LOL

PS ... I liked it so much I'm getting the Campanion from Cheryl on Monday!

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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.

[This message has been edited by sgtmike88 (edited 04-12-2001).]
 
I'm gonna help him out here, since Mike's a great contributor to the forums:

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Ok, I seem to be picture posting challenged, too, or the Yahoo site is down...

~Brian.

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Brian Jones
Co-moderator
Wilderness & Survival Skills Forum



[This message has been edited by Brian Jones (edited 04-13-2001).]
 
Mike,

Try wetting the handle and tell me what you think...a good surprise: it gets "tacky" when wet instead of slippery!

~Brian.

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Brian Jones
Co-moderator
Wilderness & Survival Skills Forum
 
Hey, Brian, Thanks! You're right, it only gets better!

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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.
 
Hi all,
I'm sure it's a helluva hacker since due to the long blade the soft spot has a much higher speed on impact. But don't you think handling would be even easier if the handle were tilted like the Machax's (or even more, as the Machax's superb hacking performance is based on the angle between handle and soft spot, not only the angle handle/blade). When the Machete gets stuck, it gets stuck well. With a tilted handle you have more leverage to wiggle it free - and your hand is in a more ergonomic position, as i posted earlier. Will, having several already stamped "Bush Hog" could saw off the handle, cut out a little triangle and weld it back on and then compare performance. By simple physics, performance can only improve.

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Andy Bockelmann, Switzerland
 
Andy,

Take a closer look, partner, the Patrol Machete's handle is dropped slightly and it works great!

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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.
 
Andy,
Here is a little insight into cutting charactistics and knife design. You are right, the more angle between the handle and the blade results in more chopping POWER for a given blade and handle. The 'straighter'the juncture of the same blade and handle, will result in a 'faster' handling blade.....

More angle=more power

Straighter=more speed

Keep in mind the PATROL is a machete. Machete's cut by using speed and a thin edge to cut primarily light vegetation. Of course they will also get used on heavier stuff, but they still cut usuallly based on their speed.

In the PATROL MACHETE, the handle to blade juncture is 'almost' straight. We did 'drop' the slightly, because as you noted, it helped comfort slightly, and did aid in 'power cuts' somewhat. But with a radical bend like the MACHAX, you couldn't get the speed needed to take advantage of the thin, light blade when cutting light vegetation.

I hope this helps give some insight into the design of the PATROL MACHETE. You really can't imagine the work this thing can do. For the part of the world I live in, and the tasks I usually put a big blade too, it is without a doubt the most useful BK&T to me.

BTW Andy, believe me, many different designs, including different 'handle angles'were tried. Its all part of the design process.

ANd before anybody else asks, there are no more blades stamped 'BUSH HOG'. Well, except for the one in my collection
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The rest are history.

Thanks for the interest!

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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery
www.camillusknives.com

[This message has been edited by Will Fennell (edited 04-13-2001).]
 
Will,
Thanks for the insight, I see the difference now. Especially the fact that you did try several angles to find the best convices me. - It serves a completely different purpose than the MACHAX (which I adore completly).

Many years ago I overstreched a sinew at my wrist using a full size heavy Mexican machete to clear ferns. After I got my MACHAX ten years ago, I knew this wouldn't have happened if the machete's handle were tilted. That's why I suggested the tilt (my wrist told me to).

But I think this couldn't happen with the PATROL MACHETE due to it's compact size which also allows to tie it to a day pack without being bulky - the perfect product!

I'll get one myself!

Are there any pictures around of the different sheaths of the Becker line? My original MACHAX came in a plastic sheath, but I then ordered the leather one because it's not so noisy.

Thanks,



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Andy Bockelmann, Switzerland
 
Love this blade! I'm about to head out and put it through the gauntlet. I only have one question... Don't get me wrong, I like the sheath but I can't understand why a "standard" BK&T sheath (like the other models have) was not possible. The only reason I can think of would be price because I can see no design flaws that would nullify the feasibilty. I only paid about $70 for mine. I would have been willing to pay $25 more dollars for a real BK&T sheath.

Peace-
Cam
 
I agree, I'd have paid the $25 to $30 extra for a better sheath like the other models have.

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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.
 
Guys,
We really looked at it. But with a 14" blade it was going to be REALLY expensive. Not just for the sheath, but also for the tooling for the sheath if we went with Kydex. It would have raised the price more than you think. This coupled with the fact that this is still a machete, and people are used to paying ALOT less for a machete. We plan on marketing this tool to other markets, such as surveyors and such, and we decided to keep the price point down. If knifenuts want a better sheath, there are plenty of guys out there to do kydex. Bob Bailey, DDR's step son is making mine right now.

I hear you, believe me, I wanted a full blown BK&T style kydex rig, but they get really expensive when they get big....and 14" blade is big.

Best Regards,



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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery
www.camillusknives.com
 
I never use a sheath for a machete anyway. For long transports (airlines) that require pack carry I just duct tape the edge. If it's being hauled in a boat or vehicle then it just gets thrown in among everything else.

In my opinion, machetes are just what the Bush Hog corporation called them - farm implements - like a sling blade. In Latin America they're just common tools and none of them hardly ever have a sheath since they stay in the users hand when they're carried.

I keep no less than a dozen machetes around the farm. Sharpen them on a belt sander and take more than one when I'm headed out to cut bush.

Machetes in my opinion are the most versatile and valuable tool out there when it comes to edged tools. I've always said that if I could only have one knife, it would be a machete...without the sheath of course.
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Damn Will! I can't believe that I didn't get one of those Bush Hog stamped cutting instruments.

Jeff

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Randall's Adventure & Training
jeff@jungletraining.com
 
HI offers a slender khukuri that is well suited for brush cutting (Kobra) and being a khukuri does have a decent blade to handle angle. It would be interesting to seen one compared to the Patrol Machete.

-Cliff
 
GOT MINE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow Sweet.

Bob Bailey (Elite Tactical Carry Systems)
Is making a full blown Kydex sheath for it!

What a sweet bush knife . The handle feels Just right. I have many chores for this one this spring!

I like the way the edge is protected from the elements. Sharp as a razor out of the box!

Ethan, Will, Gibbs Great job!




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Web Site At www.darrelralph.com
MADD MAXX !
 
I still don't get it....
Everyone who gets one of these things, the first thing they say is "I have so and so making a sheath for it". That tells me that the standard one is less than adequate. Darrell and even Will, now that says a lot!
I could be wrong but I'm willing to bet that 90% of the people buying these will be hard core knife knuts that KNOW what they are getting; a multi purpose, heavy duty tool. They are all willing to pay extra to go to a 3rd party to get a sheath made so I'm betting they would have paid extra to have a standard BK&T sheath included in the initial deal.
This thing CANNOT be marketed as a machete, period. People who are "in the know" (read-knifeknuts) know this is more than a machete. The average Joe, whom this "machete marketing" is aimed towards, will never buy this tool as a "machete" because they can go to Wal-Mart and get a machete for $5.
Like I said, I still don't get it...

Peace-
Cam
 
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