Paul Bos Retires

garryale, if you look at the bottom of this page, there is a place where it lists the active members of this forum who are currently viewing this page.

Paul Bos was reading this thread but has so-far not commented. His name was on the list a few minutes ago.
 
Yes , but do not forget that thousands people worldwide believe Paul Boss had touched exactly their knives.;)

And......the faithful do BELIEVE, BROTHERS AND SISTERS!!!!

May be a new market for selling little bottles of BOS anointing oils or holy waters to apply to the knives of the faithful?

BOS stamp on a keychain? Or maybe to wear on a chain around the neck? BOS T-Shirts?

BOS statue for the dashboard of your car?

:D
 
garryale, if you look at the bottom of this page, there is a place where it lists the active members of this forum who are currently viewing this page.

Paul Bos was reading this thread but has so-far not commented. His name was on the list a few minutes ago.

He's probably getting a good chuckle out of all the speculation.

:)
 
BG42EDGE, you have a "BCCI Lifetime Member #Pending" on your signature...

Does this mean you are on probation? They're waiting to see if you've been good? :D;)
 
Is PB still going to do his custom heat treating??

Is this... http://www.buckknives.com/resources/pdf/Paul_Bos_Brochure.pdf

the same as this.... http://www.bosservicesheattreating.com/index2.html

link found here, listed under "Services" http://boseknives.com/links.html

Is B O S Services Heat Treating..... http://www.bosservicesheattreating.com/98/index.html

B O S SERVICES COMPANY
4741 East 355th Street
Willoughby, Ohio 44094


........ the company of "The" Paul Bos that we are speaking of in this thread

I am confused......... :)
 
I think only your first link is related to Buck knives.

:)

Yeah, but if you click on that link it takes to a pdf "brochure" for Paul Bos Heat Treating ....

Paul Bos Heat Treating
paulbos@buckknives.com
660 S. Lochsa Street, Post Falls, ID 83854


...... which appears to be in Idaho.

In this pdf "brochure" it list prices and services offered to the general public.

Thus, my question. Are they the same... just different locations?

I am still confused......... :D ;)
 
A quote from Knives Illustrated. June 2010:



I'm not sure which Paul the inner quote refers to, but I think CB is referring to Paul Farner.
 
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338, What magazine does that article appear in ? DM

David, Its an oldie that I kept just because of this story :D
Its KI Feb 2006...
The article is called "Paul Bos King of heat treat" . It is listed on the cover as well.
 
Let me try to simplify what I am asking.

This link
http://www.buckknives.com/resources/pdf/Paul_Bos_Brochure.pdf takes you here:

PAUL BOS
HEAT TREATING
Paul Bos Heat Treating
paulbos@buckknives.com
660 S. Lochsa Street, Post Falls, ID 83854
(208) 262-0500, x 211
Associate Member


PAUL BOS HEAT TREATING
PACKING & SHIPPING INSTRUCTIONS
(Please read each time you ship a package)
1. Clean bluing and tape residue off blades.
2. Clean grinding and buffing compounds from blades and out of holes.
3. Clean burrs from holes.
4. Make sure blades are straight.
5. Do not tape blades together. Roll 4 or 5 blades up in double newspaper with tangs out
so points of blades do not stick through other end. Then tape around paper.
6. Pack in sturdy box and make sure blades will not move around.
7. PLEASE DO NOT USE PACKING PEANUTS. Pack box well with wadded-up newspapers.
8. Make sure you put a note in the box with the following REQUIRED INFORMATION:
a. Your name, shipping address, billing address, phone number, e-mail address
b. Quantity of blades enclosed
c. Materials blades are made of
d. Rockwell hardness desired
e. How do you want blades shipped? (ground, air, overnight)
f. For shipping, do you want blades insured? If so, for how much?
g. Please vibro etch your initials and blade material on tang if possible.
9. On your address label to us, do not put “custom knives.” Just put your name and
address. This will help minimize possibility of theft.
10. Ship your package to us at:
Paul Bos Heat Treating
660 S. Lochsa Street
Post Falls, ID 83854
10. Order fulfillment typically takes about 5 days of shop time after receiving blades.
11. When completed, we ship your blades to you via U.P.S. unless you specify otherwise.
12. For Christmas and shows, please plan ahead as far as possible.
Note: Shop is closed 2 weeks at Christmas and 2 weeks in summer (July).
Please contact us regarding order fulfillment during those times.
13. Questions? Call us at (208) 262-0500, x211 or e-mail: paulbos@buckknives.com

PAUL BOS HEAT TREATING
PRICE LIST
Effective January 1, 2005.
Subject to change without notice.
Minimum Charge
- Heat treating of up to 20 blades: $70.00
- Each blade over 20: $3.50
Single blades
- Each blade, up to minimum charge $14.00
Tempering
- Triple tempering: additional charge (will advise)
- Folder springs and folder parts tempered back to spring temper: $1.00 each
Additional Charge
- Blades over 10 inches: 50¢ per inch additional
- Mixed batches of materials (will advise)
- Extensive cleaning or straightening before heat treating (will advise)
Handling
- Handling charge (packaging): $2.50 per package
Shipping
- Shipping charges will be determined based on your preference (ground, air, overnight)
Payment
Payment is not required in advance, but is due on receipt of invoice.
A $5.00 service charge will be added if payment is not received within 30 days.

Paul Bos Heat Treating
660 S. Lochsa Street, Post Falls, ID 83854
(208) 262-0500, ext. 211 • paulbos@buckknives.com

WHAT IS HEAT TREATING?
Heat treating is the process used to impart special qualities to metals
and alloys (hardness, strength, ductility, etc.). When heat and
subsequent cooling are applied to metals in their solid state, the
physical and structural properties (but not the chemical composition)
of these metals are changed.
Different metals respond to treatment at different temperatures.
Each metal has a specific chemical composition, so changes in
physical and structural properties take place at different, critical
temperatures. Depending on the temperature used, these changes
can represent a change in grain size, increase in toughness, removal
of internal stresses, or formation of a hard surface on a ductile core.
In addition to changes induced by heat, the rate and method of
cooling have an effect on the structural properties. For example, in
carbon steels, a rapid cooling will produce a metal with a hard
structure, while a slow cooling will produce the opposite effect.
Even small percentages of elements in the metal composition, such
as carbon, will greatly determine the temperature, time, method
and rate of cooling that needs to be used in the heat treating
process.
To achieve the desired heat treating results, it is crucial for us to
know the type of metal being submitted for treatment and the
desired results (Rockwell hardness).
WHAT IS AUSTENITE?
Austenite is a solid solution of one or more elements in facecentered
cubic iron. Unless otherwise designated (such as nickel
Austenite), the solution is assumed to be carbon.
Martensitic stainless steels are likely to retain large amounts of
untransformed Austenite in the “as-quenched” structure, frequently
as much as 30% by volume. A portion of the Austenite retained in
quenching may be transformed by sub-zero cooling to about –100
degrees F immediately after quenching. To obtain maximum transformation
of retained Austenite, 2 or more complete tempering
cycles are necessary after sub-zero cooling. Parts should be cooled
to room temperature between tempers. Creating optimum transformation
of Austenite is an integral part of the heat treating
process.
OUR HEAT TREATING SPECIFICATIONS
Materials Heat Treated: All stainless steels, air hardening tool steels,
stainless steel Damascus.
Blades are hardened in an inert atmosphere, cryogenic quenched to
-280 degrees F and double tempered (triple tempering is available at
extra charge). Tool steels are snap tempered at 375 degrees F before
cryogenic cooling. All blades are checked for straightness and 100%
Rockwell tested. Maximum length for all materials is 32 inches.
EFFECTS OF COMMON ALLOYING ELEMENTS IN STEEL
By definition, steel is a combination of iron and carbon. Steel is
alloyed with various elements to improve physical properties and to
produce special properties, such as resistance to corrosion or heat.
Specific effects of the addition of such elements are outlined below.
Carbon  (C), although not usually considered as an alloying
element, is the most important constituent of steel. It raises tensile
strength, hardness and resistance to wear and abrasion. It lowers
ductility, toughness and machinability.
Manganese  (Mn), is a deoxidizer and degasifier and reacts with
sulphur to improve forgeability. It increases tensile strength,
hardness, hardenability and resistance to wear. It decreases
tendency toward scaling and distortion. It increases the rate of
carbon-penetration in carburizing.
Phosphorus  (P), increases strength and harness and improves
machinability. However, it adds marked brittleness or cold shortness
to steel.
Sulphur  (S), improves machinability in free-cutting steels, but
without sufficient manganese, it produces brittleness at red heat. It
decreases weldability, impact toughness and ductility.
Silicone  (Si), is a deoxidizer and degasifier. It increases tensile
and yield strength, hardness, forgeability and magnetic permeability.
Chromium  (Cr), increases tensile strength, hardness, hardenability,
toughness, resistance to wear and abrasion, resistance to
corrosion and scaling at elevated temperatures.
Nickel  (Ni), increases strength and hardness without sacrificing
ductility and toughness. It also increases resistance to corrosion and
scaling at elevated temperatures when introduced in suitable
quantities in high-chromium (stainless) steels.
Common Alloying Elements (continued)
Molybdenum  (Mo), increases strength, hardness, hardenability and toughness, as
well as creep resistance and strength at elevated temperatures. It improves
machinability and resistance to corrosion, and it intensifies effects of other alloying
elements. In hot-work steels, it increases re-hardness properties.
Tungsten  (W), increases strength, hardness and toughness. Tungsten steels have
superior hot-working and greater cutting efficiency at elevated temperatures.
Vanadium  (V), increases strength, hardness and resistance to shock impact. It
retards grain growth, permitting higher quenching temperatures. It also enhances
the red-hardness properties of high-speed metal cutting tools and intensifies the
individual effects of other major elements.
Cobalt  (Co), increases strength and hardness and permits higher quenching
temperatures. It also intensifies the individual effects of other major elements in
more complex steels.
Aluminum  (Al), is a deoxidizer and degasifier. It retards grain growth and is used
to control austenitic grain size. In nitriding steels, it aids in producing a uniformly
hard and strong nitrided case when used in amounts 1.00% - 1.25%.
Titanium, Columbium, and Tantalum  (Ti, Cb, Ta), are used as stabilizing elements
in stainless steels. Each has a high affinity for carbon and forms carbides, which are
uniformly dispersed throughout the steel. Thus, localized depletion of carbon at
grain boundaries is prevented.
Lead  (Pb), while not strictly an alloying element, is added to improve machining
characteristics. It is almost completely insoluble in steel, and minute lead particles,
well dispersed, reduce friction where the cutting edge contacts the work. Addition
of lead also improves chip-breaking formations.

Paul Bos Heat Treating



Then this link
[found on this page http://boseknives.com/links.html listed under SERVICES] http://www.bosservicesheattreating.com/98/index.html takes you here:


Heat Treating And Grit Blasting

Thank you for visiting our new Internet site. As an up-to-date business, we want to give you the opportunity to stay in touch with our company. A new content management system will enable us to always keep you up to date.

B O S Services Company is celebrating 38 years of excellence in heat treating and metal cleaning services. We have earned a reputation for being responsive to our customers' needs, and we deliver what we promise.

If you are not familiar with our company and your first contact with us is online: We would be pleased to hear from you! Please let us know what your needs and questions are, we will be more than happy to help.

Please visit our "services" page for further information on our capabilities, or feel free to contact us at 440-946-5101 or kimlsrsen@sbcglobal.net


B O S SERVICES COMPANY
4741 East 355th Street
Willoughby, Ohio 44094



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I am done and still confused............. :D
 
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It will be interesting to me to see how the passing of the torch takes place. As BG42EDGE suggested, the logo may stay the same. I think of Buck knives as something like Rolls Royce in a different context. Rolls Royce was started by a Charles Rolls and a Henry Royce. Rolls passed away in 1910 and Royce in 1933. (Both were working on motorcars up to the end.) Yet the name and the logo live on even though the company has changed hands many times. Todays cars bear no resemblance whatsoever to the original cars made by Rolls and Royce.

However, in the earlier craft trades as in early America, the torch would be passed in a different way. If a master craftsman Mr. Browne operated a glassworks, for example, he would train an apprentice (Mr. Hart for example) to take over the craft when he retired. The trade would then be referred to as Browne & Hart, even though Mr. Brown might not be involved in the production any longer. When Mr. Hart passed the shop on to an apprentice, Mr. Jones, it would be referred to as Browne, Hart & Jones Glassworks. If the business sold entirely, it would be known as Brown, Hart & Jones, even though none of them were still involved. But the adding of a new name otherwise meant that a new master craftsman was at work.

It will be interesting, as I said, to see how this one plays out.
 
Any of you have the pleasure of meeting, working ,have work done by or talking with Paul Bos?

I know that everyone I have spoke with at the Buck Factory loves him. A few years ago before I met him the folks in the Factory store had mega great things to say about him. I have to agree.
 
I guess I should have gotten on here last week, We just got back from a trip to AZ. Paul Bos heat treating will continue with no delays. Paul Farner will be takeing over the Custom heat treating . I will be still be working for Buck as a Consaultant. And make tripes to Post Falls as needed. Not to good on this Computer thing. But I will try to answer any Questions you may have. Thank You all, Paul Bos.
 
I guess I should have gotten on here last week, We just got back from a trip to AZ. Paul Bos heat treating will continue with no delays. Paul Farner will be takeing over the Custom heat treating . I will be still be working for Buck as a Consaultant. And make tripes to Post Falls as needed. Not to good on this Computer thing. But I will try to answer any Questions you may have. Thank You all, Paul Bos.

Thanks for the reply Paul and thanks for all the great work through the years. :thumbup:

Best wishes and fun in your retirement......... :)

Kind regards,
Cp
 
Happy to hear from you Paul. Thank you for all your hard work. We all really appreciate your efforts
 
I'm glad you will still be involved as a consultant.

BWT, I love the Bos tang-stamp!

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