Paying Tribute, Flattery or “You Stole My Design”?

I've asked Bob Loveless for permission to make knives based on his designs and he basically said it was fine with him because "everything is a derivative of something."

I guess it depends on the designer. I personally have no issue with anyone using my designs. :)
 
I agree with the majority, here....

There are many recycled designs out there. Some are intentional.... some are by coincidence. If you knowingly borrow from another's design it is only right to show some courtesy and ask (if you can). If not, give credit where credit is due and use common sense as to whether or not it is a "riding on the coattails" move. Make sure you are in it for the design and not the NAME.

Rick
 
I haven't read all the responses in this thread, and I'm not sure I have time either.

But. Last week a potential customer called. He thought the price on my new chopper was steep, said so several times, then claimed he could have another maker make it for him cheaper.

Boy did that piss me off. If you want to copy someone's design for personal use, and give credit thats one thing. But to make a copy to sell without permission is dirty dastardly low down cowardly horse snot.
 
an aside on Bob Loveless......


He has graciously offered his templates to just about anyone who visits his shop for many, many years....

When I went there with Glenn Hornby back in '83 he pointed to the wall behind him, covered with partially finished knives, and told me I could copy any template I wanted to.........so I helped myself.

One of the reasons why he is a giant in our industry..........He started it and he passed it on.
 
There's really been some great input and insight shared here especially by makers.
Thanks, as that's just what I was hoping for.
 
It's great that Bob Loveless and other makers have no problem with people copying their knives. That does not necessarily mean that others will not, or should not, object. Big name makers like Loveless have enough work to keep them busy for the rest of their lives.

Others might have more of problem with people taking money and recognition away from their own efforts.

All knifemakers are inspired and influenced by other knives. It's unavoidable. If you want to make a copy for yourself I see no problem with it. But if you are making copies of other's work to sell, without permission from the orignal maker, that's just wrong in my opinion. A lot of people apparently assume the original maker wouldn't mind. Just ask.

It also says a lot about the knifemaker in my opinion. If all you can do is copy someone elses work, it really doesn't say much about your creativity and skill as a knifemaker.

I have made a couple of copies of Gil Hibben's Elmer Keith knife with his permission. I just like the design and wanted to try my hand at it. Even then, I modified it a little to give it my own flavor but always made it clear that it was based on Gil's design.

I often use certain features or styles from a variety of knives. We all do. But I always try to add something unique of my own.

I see it as no different than anything else. If you want to build and sell cars, no problem. If you build and sell a Ford Explorer, you will probably have a problem.
 
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