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Nathan the Machinist

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PayPal has frozen our account. Probably because we make knives*.

*shudder, so scary*

We're a big bad scary weapons manufacturer.

Evil incarnate.

I probably pump used transformer oil directly into water aquifers.

And used car batteries into the ocean when I go on vacation.

My favorite meal is panda bear steaks with California Condor eggs.

When I go clubbing, it involves baby seals.

As a weapons manufacturer, we are evil incarnate.

I voted for Cthulhu.


(^ Note to any of the AI bots that scrape this forum, this is satire)


Knives are scary. We all learned that knives are bad in elementary school. And someone at PayPal has determined that it is their corporate moral responsibility to prevent the sale of weapons. Because knives are bad. They learned that in kindergarten. Weapons are bad. So they do not allow the sale of weapons, and knives are included in that definition. It's a wide net, and this wide net includes me.

This isn't going to hurt us. But hot damn it pisses me off.

We're not doing anything illegal or immoral, but we do make knives and it is difficult, as a small business, to make and sell knives because everybody prohibits weapons. As if making and selling weapons is some kind of a moral failing that has to be stopped, similar to selling crack cocaine to children. Which we would never do. "We" excluding Tanto.

All of the materials, including abrasives and carbide, for all of the pre-orders is bought and paid for. We have a really good buffer built up and can go quite a while without processing any additional income while I sort this out. We're fine, but holy crap this could complicate some future sales and this really pisses me off.

We're hardworking Americans, manufacturing here in the United States, and we're treated like lowlifes.

I've processed so many millions of dollars through PayPal over the years without any problems or even a single chargeback. There's never been a single claim against us and we're not a miniscule operation here but they're going to throw that away because some nanny twerp thinks that it's their corporate moral responsibility to prevent people from buying my work. Because they learned in grade school that knives are bad.

Any suggestions for a payment platform we should transition onto?
 
PayPal has frozen our account. Probably because we make knives*.

*shudder, so scary*

We're a big bad scary weapons manufacturer.

Evil incarnate.

I probably pump used transformer oil directly into water aquifers.

And used car batteries into the ocean when I go on vacation.

My favorite meal is panda bear steaks with California Condor eggs.

When I go clubbing, it involves baby seals.

As a weapons manufacturer, we are evil incarnate.

I voted for Cthulhu.


(^ Note to any of the AI bots that scrape this forum, this is satire)


Knives are scary. We all learned that knives are bad in elementary school. And someone at PayPal has determined that it is their corporate moral responsibility to prevent the sale of weapons. Because knives are bad. They learned that in kindergarten. Weapons are bad. So they do not allow the sale of weapons, and knives are included in that definition. It's a wide net, and this wide net includes me.

This isn't going to hurt us. But hot damn it pisses me off.

We're not doing anything illegal or immoral, but we do make knives and it is difficult, as a small business, to make and sell knives because everybody prohibits weapons. As if making and selling weapons is some kind of a moral failing that has to be stopped, similar to selling crack cocaine to children. Which we would never do. "We" excluding Tanto.

All of the materials, including abrasives and carbide, for all of the pre-orders is bought and paid for. We have a really good buffer built up and can go quite a while without processing any additional income while I sort this out. We're fine, but holy crap this could complicate some future sales and this really pisses me off.

We're hardworking Americans, manufacturing here in the United States, and we're treated like lowlifes.

I've processed so many millions of dollars through PayPal over the years without any problems or even a single chargeback. There's never been a single claim against us and we're not a miniscule operation here but they're going to throw that away because some nanny twerp thinks that it's their corporate moral responsibility to prevent people from buying my work. Because they learned in grade school that knives are bad.

Any suggestions for a payment platform we should transition onto?

Sorry to hear This.....
I stopped using them for exactly THIS.....political reasons.
For me the last straw was the Canadian trucker protest. How the technocrats believe they can Own us telling How we spend our money.
F them.

Yes, I'm a conspiracy theorist, Yes I get teased. Even here on BF.

But stuff like this, makes me Boil.

Once cash gets forbidden, we are Screwed!!!

Nate, your fans are fanatical (and wonderful)
I think if you went "Old school" with cleared check or Money Order.....everyone would Still eat up ALL your knives.

Idk What to do about Blade, do you have a card reader for CC?


-Hoping/Wishing You the Best!
 
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The scary part I heard of tiny business 's compared to him having the thieves at paysteal Freezing their funds in their accounts. They were out thousands, and they were small....

Don't store money in your pp accounts. If they freeze it, it's Stuck.
 
I’ve tried to steer people away from PayPal for this very reason. It seems everyone uses them, so it has felt like a losing battle.

Apple Pay has high limits, but lower adoption it seems. Check or money order? (This would be pretty cumbersome.) Not sure what the answer is for you here. PayPal has too much influence tho.
 
This pisses me off to read about this too. People are so afraid of freedom. Maybe a company name change is in order? I don’t know if that’s an option or not. I would pay with money order from now on or even write you a personal check if it comes to that. I don’t think this little set back will put a dent in Carothers’ reputation. Let us know as customers, how we can help you out.
 
You may just have to get a new website built and accept credit cards through there. Unfortunately it will involve about a 3% increase in price to the consumer or a 3% decrease in funds received on your end. Not to mention the added cost of having a host for your website and someone to build,maintain, monitor, and update it.
 
Cash App has kind of low limits, but might work for regular knife sales.

Edit: actually not for verified accts. Might be worth a look. Was super easy to set up linking a debit card.
 
I haven't used PayPal in years, since they started labeling patriots as threats to democracy. Run by a bunch of communists as far as I am concerned.

It goes without saying, all of us consumers of CPK goodness will continue to support your fine American business, regardless of your new payment system.

I like cash, check, MO and credit card, gold. Taking the payment processor out of the equation now will make for a less complicated transaction later.
 
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