Pen blade or not , technical question

dantzk8 dantzk8 Dan, about the modernism thing, it's certainly not that I think all traditions a burden-far from it but in terms of how manufacturers can behave it might be. Sometimes they have the equal imbecility of modern & latest is always best or fall back on a lazy myopia opposed to any innovation or change in deference to some imagined notion of tradition. I remember when I lived in Britain I was confounded by their plumbing system- WHY have these stupid separate taps hot & cold in a bathroom? They waste water, leak and take up room ?? And why no insulation anywhere or double windows save heating?? Ah but that's what it's always been like, builders prefer this, always a tradition, came back the bovine answer! Then you think about the terrible decline & collapse of their car/motorcycle industry et al. and the same for cutlery. Part of it is a complacent arrogant hatred of the need for adjustment to current actuality.

Penblades MIGHT be very widespread because of the 'tradition' of putting them there as secondary, it's assumed they're a default. But as we've seen other small blades can be popular with knife buyers . Of course, I very much respect your skills at whittling, making things and the self-respect that is generated by being creative & independent- these are qualities seriously lacking today in most people. Thus we are not arguing against each other I feel. Penblades are useful for detailing etc and their role is significant in cutlery history & evolution. They can look cool too :cool:

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All the very best, Will
 
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r8shell said:
I've always liked those A.G.Russell Pinched Peanuts, but they're above my budget, so a while back I modified a budget version from a Yeller Case.
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Like that! Can you go into production please ??? My CASE yellow D Penknife could get enhanced by this 😻
 
Will,

Thanks for those kind words.
Don't worry. If on certain points our opinions can sometimes diverge, I know that it is very friendly that we discuss it. It would be boring to always agree on everything. My English is, I'm afraid, clumsy at times and doesn't reflect my friendly intent very well.

Dan.
 
Will Power said:
dantzk8 dantzk8 Dan, about the modernism thing, it's certainly not that I think all traditions a burden-far from it but in terms of how manufacturers can behave it might be. Sometimes they have the equal imbecility of modern & latest is always best or fall back on a lazy myopia opposed to any innovation or change in deference to some imagined notion of tradition. I remember when I lived in Britain I was confounded by their plumbing system- WHY have these stupid separate taps hot & cold in a bathroom? They waste water, leak and take up room ?? And why no insulation anywhere or double windows save heating?? Ah but that's what it's always been like, builders prefer this, always a tradition, came back the bovine answer! Then you think about the terrible decline & collapse of their car/motorcycle industry et al. and the same for cutlery. Part of it is a complacent arrogant hatred of the need for adjustment to current actuality.

Penblades MIGHT be very widespread because of the 'tradition' of putting them there as secondary, it's assumed they're a default. But as we've seen other small blades can be popular with knife buyers . Of course, I very much respect your skills at whittling, making things and the self-respect that is generated by being creative & independent- these are qualities seriously lacking today in most people. Thus we are not arguing against each other I feel. Penblades are useful for detailing etc and their role is significant in cutlery history & evolution. They can look cool too :cool:

Y3OOjRR.jpg


ZvvICS4.jpg


All the very best, Will
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Separate taps because the hot water came from a storage tank and wasn't fit to drink,we where always told to fill the kettle from the cold tap.

No Insulation and double glazing because working class people couldn't afford it and landlords where never going to fit it if it cost money.

When you see brick filled in windows in England thats because at one stage you where taxed for having a window.






"Imposed in England in 1696, the tax—a kind of predecessor of the modern property tax—was levied on dwellings with the tax liability based on the number of windows. The tax led to efforts to reduce tax bills through such measures as the boarding up of windows and the construction of houses with very few windows".
 
Johnnythefox said:
Banal chit chat etc. guilty as charged 😁
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dantzk8 said:
Sentenced to be a star.
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I’m pretty sure the chit-chat is the whole point of the forum - the knives are just the excuse. If for some reason this became the, say, washing machine forum, and the mods banned all talk of knives, I think most of us would still hang out here, and just find some way to work major home appliances into the conversation 🤣.

I use “washing machines” as an example, because I am still without one after nearly a month, as I chit-chatted about elsewhere on the forum :rolleyes:.
 
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I’m pretty sure the chit-chat is the whole point of the forum - the knives are just the excuse. If for some reason this became the, say, washing machine forum, and the mods banned all talk of knives, I think most of us would still hang out here, and just find some way to work major home appliances into the conversation 🤣.

I use “washing machines” as an example, because I am still without one after nearly a month, as I chit-chatted about elsewhere on the forum :rolleyes:.
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I bought a new wash machine 2 months ago,just saying.

Honestly I hate idle chit chat, I think I will join Mums net instead... 😁
 
Has anyone heard of knife manufacturers setting up a custom order option where they allow the customer to select a general pattern knife, say a Trapper or Stockman, and then add the blade style choices (primary, secondary, tertiary...), along with bolster, steel, and scale material, et al upon order? Or would this be a cost prohibitive endeavor and viewed as more of a gimmick than an advantage to folks who want to design something to better suit their needs? Buck lets you order some customization, but not to the degree I'm mentioning...
 
I am not really a trad guy yet, already a Spyderco guy so I can't be bothered with all the hullabaloo for GEC drops or trying to get a good old traditional (not K55, Opinel, etc, I get those, I am talking of multi blade jackknives)

But the second "pen" blade on the SAKS I carry every day are thinner than the main blade and that has come in handy a few times, like when I had to shave with it, also if I need to cut something in a place where I cannot really show a knife, it shines. The small thin blades are fine cutting many everyday things, sturdy... But I prefer the wharncliffe shape on the rare 51 Emergecy SD Classic
 
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Has anyone heard of knife manufacturers setting up a custom order option where they allow the customer to select a general pattern knife, say a Trapper or Stockman, and then add the blade style choices (primary, secondary, tertiary...), along with bolster, steel, and scale material, et al upon order? Or would this be a cost prohibitive endeavor and viewed as more of a gimmick than an advantage to folks who want to design something to better suit their needs? Buck lets you order some customization, but not to the degree I'm mentioning...
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