Percentage of people that carry a knife and also have sharpening skills ?

We have at least two or three generations now that are born and raised suburbanites, with a father that doesn't care or an absent father and no father figure in the family that a kid can learn from. The rising generation of knife knits are pretty much self taught, and this leaves huge gaps in knowledge. Sharpening is amount that. More kids are growing up in their room with the computer than going outside and taking part of activities that will teach them valuable lessons of life. Scouting is at an all time low because it's not "cool" and even viewed as nerdy or dorkish.

I learned knife sharpening from our scoutmaster, who was an old ex-marine from WW2. He had an inspection of our scout knives att he start of every meeting on Friday nights at the church. When he was dis-satisfied with out sharpness level, he had a very hands on knife sharpening class. He'd sit us all down in a circle and take out our pocket size stones and he'd go around the outside of the circle and one by one lean over us and make sure we had the right angle and grip. He'd keep at us, and by the end of the night, all of us kids sitting in that circle had a shaving sharp scout knife, but more importantly we knew now how to keep it up. This translated to all the knives in our life. Sharpening mom's kitchen knives, whatever. Kids today more often than not, have nobody in their life to teach them. This is why so many grown men walking around today don't even carry a knife. But they have their I=phone!

For the great unwashed non knife carrying masses, sharpening a knife has become some kind of ancient lost art. But then why learn to sharpen a knife when you don't even carry one? And when some instinctive urge has them go get a knife, they haven't the slightest idea what to do with it.

Damm shame.
 
In my circle, I am the ONLY guy who can sharpen, reprofile etc. I taught my buddy who to sharpen his work knife on his lansky. People bring me knives all the time. usually chipped up and butter knife dull. Pocket knives that cant cut tape. Kitchen knives with barely any bevel left.
 
I'm the family's sharpener and that's among a few who carry regularly. My dad can put a usable edge on his knife but it isn't pretty. I would bet a lot of knife nuts out chasing the super steels don't have the skills or equipment to fix a dinged edge either. It's not just Joe Public who probably can't keep his Frost knife sharp.
 
I know several people who can sharpen.

My dad uses a pull through sharpener. Yes, I know it's not ideal. Somehow though he gets a useable edge through that method, and that's all he needs.
My one friend sharpens knives for our group (except me). He puts a slightly better than working edge on knives, and that's all he needs.

I think we should stop condescending so much. Not everyone needs or wants an extremely fine edge.
 
It's worth noting that sharpening skills have never been truly the norm. The percentage of competent sharpeners may have been higher in decades past, but there's a reason why you so often hear stories about the little old local man who used to push a cart around with a grinding wheel and would put an edge on your knives for a penny or two.
 
FortyTwoBlades makes a good point. In the last Lonesome Dove book, Comanche Moon, Call becomes a knife sharpener to make money.

I have a lot of sharpening stones and SM, but cannot do much without making a mess. Since I rarely cut anything with my folders, I try to never sharpen the nice ones. I don't care that much about the kitchen knives.
 
I am a new forum member. I grew up in a home where my father provided well for our family but received little instruction on how to do much else in life. Zero knowledge on car maintenance, outdoor skills or much else. Don't get me wrong though, I love my dad and am blessed for his faithful provision. Back when I was growing up in the 70's and 80's I did manage to learn a few things in the cub scouts, weblows, and finally boy scouts......but not how to sharpen a knife. I have recently begun to buy and carry knives and recognize their usefulness. I have an Essee 4, Mora bushcraft, GEC Bullnose and a Buck 500 Duke. Well, the day is coming soon when I will need to sharpen them all from time to time and I would like to learn to do it myself. Would anyone be willing to point me in the right direction as far as what stones and youtube instructional videos I should acquire and view? I am one of those fellas that likes to learn how to do things myself and then I will pass what I have been given and learned to anyone who might need a hand as well. Thanks for your time. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
Just about everyone at least has a double sided aluminum oxide stone and can get a blade sharp enough to use.

Nope.
Most people I run across have no clue...and no sharpener of any kind.
 
It's worth noting that sharpening skills have never been truly the norm. The percentage of competent sharpeners may have been higher in decades past, but there's a reason why you so often hear stories about the little old local man who used to push a cart around with a grinding wheel and would put an edge on your knives for a penny or two.

Exactly.
If the "Everyone in the golden age of when I was a kid knew how to sharpen a knife" statement was true---or even close to being true---sharpening as a job would not have existed.
 
I am a new forum member. I grew up in a home where my father provided well for our family but received little instruction on how to do much else in life. Zero knowledge on car maintenance, outdoor skills or much else. Don't get me wrong though, I love my dad and am blessed for his faithful provision. Back when I was growing up in the 70's and 80's I did manage to learn a few things in the cub scouts, weblows, and finally boy scouts......but not how to sharpen a knife. I have recently begun to buy and carry knives and recognize their usefulness. I have an Essee 4, Mora bushcraft, GEC Bullnose and a Buck 500 Duke. Well, the day is coming soon when I will need to sharpen them all from time to time and I would like to learn to do it myself. Would anyone be willing to point me in the right direction as far as what stones and youtube instructional videos I should acquire and view? I am one of those fellas that likes to learn how to do things myself and then I will pass what I have been given and learned to anyone who might need a hand as well. Thanks for your time. Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Hey Jonesy, go to youtube and check out a video I made a few years back called instinctive knife sharpening. I try to get across that it's not that hard, and how most people over complicate it. All you need is a stone of some kind, and some patience, and a bit of practice on a dull kitchen paring knife. A Norton economy stone at Home Depot or Lowes is all of 6 bucks or so. The little Eze-Lap model L diamond hones are like 5 bucks each for medium and fine. That is all you need. Go over to the forum for sharpening and Maintenance, and there's a lot of info around. I like the totally freehand way myself.
 
I guess im lucky, when my old man decided I was old enough for a "real knife", a Buck 110, he made sure I was able to sharpen it freehand using his Buck washita #134 stone. as ive gotten older, ive moved on to better equipment, and have gotten better using what he taught me. when he passed 21 years ago, I found that old stone and it now resides in my display case and will always be one of my most prized possessions.
 
Hey Jonesy, go to youtube and check out a video I made a few years back called instinctive knife sharpening. I try to get across that it's not that hard, and how most people over complicate it. All you need is a stone of some kind, and some patience, and a bit of practice on a dull kitchen paring knife. A Norton economy stone at Home Depot or Lowes is all of 6 bucks or so. The little Eze-Lap model L diamond hones are like 5 bucks each for medium and fine. That is all you need. Go over to the forum for sharpening and Maintenance, and there's a lot of info around. I like the totally freehand way myself.

Yes, a lot people love to make things seem much harder than they really are to feed their egos and sharpening a knife can be as easy or as complicated as one wants to make it.

I usually recommend a Sharpmaker to those who are starting out as it's really a good tool and will sharpen a variety of different things other than knives and it's not all that hard for beginners to learn in general.

Unless I am right there actually teaching someone how to freehand sharpen I generally don't recommend they start with that 1st.

Most people don't generally use their knives enough to really get over complicated in sharpening so like I said the Sharpmaker would be a good thing to buy to maintain the edges on their knives.
 
For a long time I thought everyone could sharpen. I was taught at a young age and picked it up without much trouble so I thought it was the same for everyone. As the years went by I realized that knives were not respected by others the way I respected them and most people I met thought the factory was the only one that could sharpen their knife (a trend that carries on today).

When I tell someone I sharpen professionally I wish I could take a picture of their face, it's like I told them I have a pet Raptor. Total confusion and a bit of amazement that it can actually be done.

The only knives that I have seen that have been on the same level as my hand sharpened edges are those done on a WE or EP with a skilled user. Most hand sharpened edges I see are a total train wreck with the common level of sharpness being just beyond a butter knife.
 
Thank you for your replies and help. I will take your advice and see what I can do. One other thing that comes to mind that may complicate sharpening by hand on a stone. I will start with a knife that isn't expensive as you recommended but will the fact that each of the knives I own have a different grind change the way you sharpen the knife? The obvious answer may be yes but then how do you approach each knife?
 
Keep it simple, Stick with one angle... Low

The only time it will be different is when you are sharpening convex grinds, otherwise it's all the same.

Get the spine as close to the stone without scraping, low angles cut better. If the edge deform's quickly then increase the angle slightly at your next sharpening.
 
Keep it simple, Stick with one angle... Low

The only time it will be different is when you are sharpening convex grinds, otherwise it's all the same.

Get the spine as close to the stone without scraping, low angles cut better. If the edge deform's quickly then increase the angle slightly at your next sharpening.

Advice taken.....Thank You.
 
The only knives that I have seen that have been on the same level as my hand sharpened edges are those done on a WE or EP with a skilled user. Most hand sharpened edges I see are a total train wreck with the common level of sharpness being just beyond a butter knife.

How do you feel about paper wheels? I've been using them for a year now and find them to be very efficient since I do a lot of sharpening for friends and family. Even though paper wheels are mechanical, I feel that you must understand the elements of freehand sharpening before trying them out.

When I hand someone a knife fresh off the paper wheels, it's like they never knew what sharp even meant:p
With that said, I always teach someone how to test the sharpness on their fingernail rather than slicing their finger apart.
 
Everyone I know who owns a quality knife knows how to sharpen it. I've been sharpening my own knives freehand since I was about 12. I'll never understand why people equate sharpening a knife with some mystical/religious experience or argue about how they can get their knives sharper than yours.
 
It's not really rocket science. I think most are afraid to learn due to the mystique applied to it. Grinding metal on stone is easy, mastery takes practice. How many people practice their sharpening skills? Good question. Now with modern sharpening tools and techniques I feel most "know" how to sharpen their edges, but are unaware of the joy of using a whetstone.

So yea, I feel most on here are probably not victims to this, but it depends what you call sharp. Everyone's got their own definition of that.
 
I can keep a knife sharp if it comes to me with a nice edge. Can't set new bevels though.
 
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