Perception and needs

To simply answer your question, no. However I don’t live in the city and rarely have interactions with the police. As far as what other people think I could care less. The only time I feel a little self-conscious is if I have my baton or a fixed blade hanging off my belt lol (which is hardly ever, unless I’m going to be hiking in the woods or something).
 
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shane45-1911 said:
I'm in Ontario. My experience across the country is pretty much the same however. You are correct that local/municipal by-laws vary from province to province, but as a whole, the result is the same as ultimately it is the Federal Criminal Code that trumps locality laws.

Canada is as blantantly anti-knife, as they are anti-gun. It's just the nature of a country that never had to fight for its independence, and as such - has no ammendment rights like the USA. Everything is a "privilege" here - not a right. :(
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OK Ontario. AKA uptight land. Further West you'll find people aren't in a panic about seeing a folding knife/clip in your pocket.

Except Calgary. In Calgary it has to be all the way in your pocket.
 
Mister Coffee said:
That said, if I ever get into a situation where I "need" a knife, then things have gotten way out of hand, and I'm going to need more luck than knife to get out from under it. Lastly, I work at a place where all weapons are prohibited. By that I mean that, if it is discovered that you are armed, you will be spending time in a room that is decorated in cinderblock and steel bars. No exceptions, no excuses.
Most of us go into a McDonalds to buy a hamburger, not to hunt down and kill a squirrel. It's good to be civilized. It allows me to converse with people like all of you.
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No clue where you work. I've worked in hospitals and some yrs in L.E. for a very long time, and never heard of the cinderblock routine. Perhaps you live in Australia or England. Many times, I've been asked, by doctors, to open packages or cut things for them...I'm the first one they go to. Over the yrs, I've gifted law enforcement and first responders for several hundred good quality knives...there is a need for decent equipment.
Yes, we are civilized....but the "we" is not everyone....and it's that "someone" who will have your ass in a sling.
IF you are extremely fortunate, one of us with a knife or a 9mm will be around to save your butt....maybe not.
You are living in condition white...nice work, if you can get away with it.
My personal feeling? You are a child if you believe what you posted...
 
Sonnydaze said:
No clue where you work. I've worked in hospitals and some yrs in L.E. for a very long time, and never heard of the cinderblock routine. Perhaps you live in Australia or England. Many times, I've been asked, by doctors, to open packages or cut things for them...I'm the first one they go to. Over the yrs, I've gifted law enforcement and first responders for several hundred good quality knives...there is a need for decent equipment.
Yes, we are civilized....but the "we" is not everyone....and it's that "someone" who will have your ass in a sling.
IF you are extremely fortunate, one of us with a knife or a 9mm will be around to save your butt....maybe not.
You are living in condition white...nice work, if you can get away with it.
My personal feeling? You are a child if you believe what you posted...
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I was exaggerating for effect. Chalk it up to my not-so-good attempts at humor. I work at a place where it is prohibited by law to carry weapons. Break the law, go to jail. And they don't care if it's "a knife to open packages" or if you're just a regular Joe who likes to help people.

As for the other stuff, I respect your view. You may be a hero, but I am not. Not yesterday, not today and not tomorrow.

I don't know what "condition white" is. You'll have to explain that one.
 
Here in the Philippines, folks don’t usually freak out at the sight of SAKs or multitools. But with something like a 3.5” blade and especially something that “CLACKS!” when it opens, and you might get a few strange looks. Discretion will forever be the law-abiding, knife-carrying citizen’s friend.

That’s my perception as a city boy though. In the countryside, I’m not so sure.
 
Pitiless_Bronze said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper#Combat_mindset_and_the_Cooper_color_code
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I’m a little rusty with my Jeff Cooper lessons, but here goes:

Condition white: total unawareness, e.g. reading a book, watching YouTube in the toilet
Yellow: Relaxed awareness. You observe your environment, making it harder for ninjas or a stealthy Brock Lesnar to take you by surprise
Orange: Specific awareness. You notice that the cashier is getting threatened by a big burly man. You check the big man’s hands. No weapons yet.
Red: Go time. I think this means fight or flight. You’re either fleeing or intervening once the big guy starts punching the cashier.

It’s very difficult to go from Condition White to Red. The ideal condition is yellow. Stay chill, but stay aware of what’s going on around you, especially in public/unfamiliar places.
 
Pitiless_Bronze said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper#Combat_mindset_and_the_Cooper_color_code
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Got it. I remember reading that. In fact, I used to read Jeff Cooper's articles in the gun magazines in the 1980s, and Jim Hoag used to work on my guns. Jim just passed away last year. Condition White is my starting point. Situational awareness. Anticipating trouble. I understand Cooper's color codes as a schedule for avoiding trouble. Others read it as a plan for engagement.
 
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I've just taken to carrying a full size Adamas --putting it in rotation with a full size Presidio--Stryker and PM2---I really don't care what people think. I'm not hurting anybody or any thing with what I carry.

When I take my summer trips out west, I intend to carry a rather large fixed blade on a dangler.
 
I've never felt constrained for what I would want to, and do carry. My last job before I had to retire was a over the road truck driver. I went t all 48 of the Lower 48 states, plus DC.
The company's knife policy was "We don't care what knife you carry, so long as the "average" person won't confuse it with a "weapon".

I carried multi-blade slipjoints (as in plural) loose in my right front pocket, and a Buck 110 or Old Timer 7OT or a 2 blade slipjoint Folding Hunter on my right hip, just like I have every day since 1968. (a slipjoint or two in my pocket since 1960, when I was 5)

I still do at the assisted living facility I've been at since I had a stroke 3 years ago, July next. The management, staff, and at least half the residents (I used one at meal time, more than once in front of them ... Unless those resident's have forgotten, thanks to Mr. Alzheimer and his wife, Ms. Dementia) that I have them.

The slipjoints and the Buck 110 or Old Timer 7OT do everything I need a knife for, including whittlin' branches (formerly) to 3 inch diameter (all the big branches are gone now.) off, so they don't overhang the walk, or stick out to poke/slap/a face/grab a hat (or the grill and scrape the hood of a vehicle) in the rear parking area. :)
 
shane45-1911 said:
It's kind of a Catch-22 situation up here in Canada.

Concealed carry is illegal, so even having a folder with pocket clip MAY be an issue and up to interpretation by the police and courts, depending upon how much of the knife is visible above your pocket.

What is NOT illegal is open carry. Meaning I could strap a machete on my back or hip and as long as it is visible that is perfectly legal. Therein lies the rub. I would love to carry any one of my largish fixed-blade knives (Busse, TOPS, Becker, etc.) on my hip daily. While perfectly legal, the sheeple would be phoning the police every two seconds if they saw me walking down Main Street with a combat/survival-type fixed blade on my hip, however. And I don't want to play that game and the hassle that would go with it.

So I reluctantly carry a folder in my pocket. Never flash it, and of course it is a TOOL if ever questioned by anyone. Even a SAK gets some strange looks from people now and then.

A multi-tool is probably the most innocuous choice of edged tools in the eyes of most of the uneducated/un-enlightened flock. This makes me sad on so many levels.
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Wait...what??!!

I would like to see a link backing up this statement.

It is illegal to carry a knife for defensive purposes in Canada, ie: as a weapon.
It is illegal in Canada to carry a concealed weapon.

A knife in Canada is a tool so it is perfectly legal to carry one in your pocket. There is no law against a “concealed” tool.

Please post truths on the internet. If random “its illegal to conceal carry a knife in Canada” is posted on forums that are public, the public starts to believe it whether true or not.
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
Wait...what??!!

I would like to see a link backing up this statement.

It is illegal to carry a knife for defensive purposes in Canada, ie: as a weapon.
It is illegal in Canada to carry a concealed weapon.

A knife in Canada is a tool so it is perfectly legal to carry one in your pocket. There is no law against a “concealed” tool.

Please post truths on the internet. If random “its illegal to conceal carry a knife in Canada” is posted on forums that are public, the public starts to believe it whether true or not.
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In Canada, a knife that is concealed is NOT considered a tool. It is up to the police and the courts to interpret your intent for carrying a concealed knife, should you ever be stopped for any reason. I'm not here to explain (vague and subject to interpretation) Canadian laws to you.

Bottom line - don't do anything that gives the police a reason to stop you and find that you have a concealed knife on your person.
 
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shane45-1911 said:
In Canada, a knife that is concealed is NOT considered a tool. It is up to the police and the courts to interpret your intent for carrying a concealed knife, should you ever be stopped for any reason. I'm not here to explain (vague and subject to interpretation) Canadian laws to you.

Bottom line - don't do anything that gives the police a reason to stop you and find that you have a concealed knife on your person.
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Bottom line is that you are making up a law that isn’t there.

The concealed charge of a knife as a weapon is interpretation, not a law. Hence why I asked you to provide a link. Since you posted a statement as fact.

If you get caught with say illegal drugs and are carrying a knife in your pocket, they are going to assume that it is a weapon based on circumstances, and will be laying that charge.

If you are pulled over for speeding on your way to your hunt spot in full camo and they find a small fixed blade in your pocket, you will get a speeding ticket but not a concealed weapons charge because it is clearly for hunting purposes.

Like I said before...it is illegal in Canada to carry a concealed weapon. It is up to the officer to decide under the circumstances whether it is a tool or weapon.

There is no law making carrying a knife in your pocket illegal.
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
Like I said before...it is illegal in Canada to carry a concealed weapon. It is up to the officer to decide under the circumstances whether it is a tool or weapon.
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Sounds like you are saying exactly what I am saying, yet trying to argue about it.
 
shane45-1911 said:
Sounds like you are saying exactly what I am saying, yet trying to argue about it.
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Not intentionally. If you are trying to say what I am saying...then I agree.
But it’s best not to claim that carrying a knife in your pocket in Canada is illegal.
 
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