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Okay so I recently had a thread about custom vs production for performance and it seems that the production might have eaked out the win. This kind of surprised me as it got me thinking well shit have I been chasing an imaginary dragon if you will. I mean if all I needed was a beautiful knife that also performs just as well I would just buy me a fallkniven or a strider or maybe both lol and be done with it. I mean if all wer paying for in a custom is a fancy handle and a better sheath with slightly better ergos whats the point? Could we not just modify a production and in theory have a better knife? I guess I always thought of the doziers,carters and stuff from guys like mr loveless as being just plain superior in every way. I kind of feel a bit dumb to be honest although I have a feeling those guys I listed are exceptions for the most part. Never the less Im sitting here wondering have they made production so good as to truly match a knife from even the best custom makers? Besides the makers I listed are their many more who truly make performance knives and if so who? cmon guys I love production knives but this feels just plain wrong lol..
 
Folders are equal to a certain degree but the fixed blade world is dominated by the custom market by a mile
 
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Wow, what a misguided thread!

Think of production as dinner at a restaurant, just your standard burger and fries, or maybe pasta, pizza, etc...

Now think of custom as a homemade dinner made by Ma.

Yep, that about sums it up. It's not about performance or what have you. It's the relationships you can build with makers and the dedication put into the piece.
 
So as long as your close you don't mind paying twice the amount for an inferior product because of your appreciation of the maker? I mean that's cool if that's how you feel buy I'm not so sure I'm with you on that.
 
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So as long as your close you don't mind paying twice the amount for an inferior product because of your appreciation of the maker? I mean that's cool if that's how you feel buy I'm not so sure I'm with you on that.
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What are you talking about fixed blades or folders ?
 
Your last thread defined the differences out of existence.
The benefits come from the differences, not from being the same but better.
 
I feel that "custom" is a term used very loosely. Just because a knife is made by a knifemaker (even one well known) does not, in my opinion, make it a custom knife. The reason I have had custom knives made is so I can dictate (within reason) the specifics of the knife. I choose the steel, the grind, the size, the balance point, etc. It is custom made for ME. To expand on Blues analogy, it's like saying Ma, please make your great meatballs with a little basil and parmesan added and cook them in your marsala sauce. The makers personal touch is there, done MY way. Now I'm hungry. :D
 
I've had a fair number of customs, and several where I've designed many aspects of the folder. At this point, I have none of them. I do carry a mid-tech, though, and feel that it is the best fit for my personal EDC needs. However, with that said, that folder is right now being "worked on" at a custom guy and getting a few mods...
There are LOTS of production knives that would serve me very well. However, sometimes it's fun, for the aficionado, to add things like a good cam and twin 4-bbl carbs...
 
You need to respectfully educate yourself

There is nothing in the production world that can come close to the quality of the custom world

Here is a link to a thread in the Custom Forum about a custom Tanto

differential heat treatment and craftsmanship to name a few items without even getting into the most important part of a fixed blade carrying options

It is true in firearms and folders some very good stuff is being made but in long blades prouduction stuff is still way behind

Spend some time in the custom forum

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1414492-David-Mirabile-Battle-Tanto-WIP
 
I have a few custom fixed blades (IE, a few were made by custom makers and I bought them on the custom market, and a few I designed in CAD sent the 3D model to the maker named the handle material and Steel type and he designed to spec) In general, Customs will have better blade/edge geometry due to the 1 on 1 time the maker spends on it compared to a get as many as you can done at your station per hour. The biggest benefit however is choosing everything about YOUR knife. The ones I designed, I designed because every production knife out there was exactly what I was looking for... except the steel and/or ergos and/or the handle material. This way I didn't keep buying production knives because they were close to what I really wanted, then find a new one that is almost there, etc. If you can find a fixed or folding knife that is EXACTLY what you want, you wouldn't change a thing count yourself lucky, I now have all but 2 of the fixed blades I want (still working on the designs), I'll still by a production that I like occasionaly, but I happily sold about 5-6 high end production to fund the 3 customs.
 
Have you ever been to a BladeSport Cutting event ?

There are no prouduction knives and no Striders :)
 
A large percentage of production knives are collaborated with and/or based on a custom knife maker's designs. That says a lot about the respect custom maker's garner.

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So as long as your close you don't mind paying twice the amount for an inferior product because of your appreciation of the maker? I mean that's cool if that's how you feel buy I'm not so sure I'm with you on that.
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That's not what I said and you're entirely missing the point. It is not very wise to pretend you know about something you've never experienced.
 
I have not and all due respect I do try to "educate" myself this is why I ask these questions. It seems your strongly for customs but as you can find there are many who are not. Many people seem to be of the opinion a production is better based on the better resources and time spent making the design. Now I didn't say that but other people did and I do own both a production and a handmade and have had many productions that I find on par with the handmade knife.
 
I'm not even going to comment on the first part of that as I disagree and don't want hostility in this thread. What have I not experienced exactly?
 
noob93 said:
I have not and all due respect I do try to "educate" myself this is why I ask these questions. It seems your strongly for customs but as you can find there are many who are not. Many people seem to be of the opinion a production is better based on the better resources and time spent making the design. Now I didn't say that but other people did and I do own both a production and a handmade and have had many productions that I find on par with the handmade knife.
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So go with production. Question answered.
 
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