Photos - Survive - Gear GSO 4.1 in M390 Full review and testing.

Ankerson

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This is a full review of the GSO 4.1 in M390.

My full battery of testing, rope cardboard and wood.

The knife was tested with the edge it came with and I never touched the edge during the whole testing process.

Photo thread with impressions here:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1062388-Survive-Gear-GSO-4-1-in-M390-Impressions

Specs from the Survive - Gear Site:

GSO 4.1
Blade Material: Bohler M-390
Blade Length: 4.25" (tip to front of handle)
Blade Cutting Length: 4.33"
Blade Height: 1.25"
Blade Thickness: 5/32"(.156")
Overall Length: 8.95"
Hardness is 59-61Rc, done by Peter's, with three tempers and a cryo bath.


1st up is the 5/8" Manila rope, I made 100 slicing cuts through the rope, the knife isn't a slicer by design with what appears to be a 20 degrees per side edge and .035" to .040" behind the edge intended for harder use/Utility. The edge did hold up very well with no noticeable damage as in rolls, chips etc.


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Next was the cardboard, I cut up a bunch of boxes to keep it more real world that really needed to be cut up and tossed. The knife performed very well cutting cardboard and as you can see I cut a lot of it, the edge had a few shiny spots, but would still slice printer paper after so it still had a useable edge.


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And last, but not least by any means was the wood, now being this knife was designed to be a tool I used it as such and as you will see in the photos I didn't baby it at all. I carved up and made a fuzzy stick out of a stick, then whittled it in half, then split it up into pieces and made another fuzzy stick and kindling for a fire. Then after that I took another stick and made some deep cuts snapping the edge out sideways torquing the edge, then I stabbed the point into the stick and snapped it out a number of times to test the tip. The was no damage at all to the knife and in the end it would still slice printer paper so M390 really showed in a number of ways here.


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Conclusions:

The knife perform excellent throughout the testing process and proved to me that it's more than capable of what it was designed to do and M390 is an excellent choice of steel for this model IMO. It was very comfortable to use in the testing process and I didn't wear gloves and even under hard cutting it was nice on the hand. If one wants and or needs an excellent tool to get the job done in a great steel this is the knife to get in a 4" range blade length.
 
Nice review Ankerson. I had been looking at this blade for awhile. To be honest I have had a bit of a mental block of late. As I have been enjoying thin knives and higher wear steels. Sometimes I am hesitant to try out new stuff. :p weird I know.
 
Great job as always Mr.Ankerson:). Looking forward to know if Peter's heat treat M390 is any better at edge holding than other production e.g. Spyderco, Benchmade?
 
Looking forward to know if Peter's heat treat M390 is any better at edge holding than other production e.g. Spyderco, Benchmade?

Don't really know because I can't really do a comparison between them because this knife is a harder use blade so it would have to be reground thinner around .020" - .025" behind the edge before anything could be done.
 
Nice review Ankerson. I had been looking at this blade for awhile. To be honest I have had a bit of a mental block of late. As I have been enjoying thin knives and higher wear steels. Sometimes I am hesitant to try out new stuff. :p weird I know.

I think it would make for a really nice general use field/utility blade. :)
 
I think it would make for a really nice general use field/utility blade. :)

Decisions :). I may have to decide between this or a Fiddleback Forge. I do love M390, just seems to be a real aggressive cutter. I will leave it at a Spyderco brown ceramic and it just cuts!
 
Decisions :). I may have to decide between this or a Fiddleback Forge. I do love M390, just seems to be a real aggressive cutter. I will leave it at a Spyderco brown ceramic and it just cuts!

I just touched it up, back to hair shaving sharp on a ceramic rod, like 4 strokes per side....

After all of that. :D
 
I just touched it up, back to hair shaving sharp on a ceramic rod, like 4 strokes per side....

After all of that. :D

Sounds like a good workhorse. It is surprising sometimes what just a ceramic rod can do :).
 
Sounds like a good workhorse. It is surprising sometimes what just a ceramic rod can do :).


It's made to be a real user that's for sure. :)

Yeah some will say that M390 is hard to sharpen.....

No it's not really at all from my experiences. :thumbup:

Ceramics and or Silicon Carbide are your friends. :D
 
It's made to be a real user that's for sure. :)

Yeah some will say that M390 is hard to sharpen.....

No it's not really at all from my experiences. :thumbup:

Ceramics and or Silicon Carbide are your friends. :D
Same here. I generally just do my own reprofile initially with a silicon carbide stone. Then micro bevel it. I can maintain it on the microbevel for practically forever on Spyderco's ceramic rods. :thumbup:
 
Same here. I generally just do my own reprofile initially with a silicon carbide stone. Then micro bevel it. I can maintain it on the microbevel for practically forever on Spyderco's ceramic rods. :thumbup:

Yep, exactly. :)
 
Nice review.
By any chance you get better performance with a full flat grind in this knife, in your opinion or not?
 
Since i had some very slight edge chipping (seen through a magnifying glass) after hacking & cutting some dried oak (probably due to the rather coarse edge), i decided to thin the edge a bit and also refine it just a little.
Will see how this edge holds up on the same wood in a few days.

With the original 40 degrees inclusive coarse edge:



New, somewhat finer & slightly convex edge with an edge angle between 25 and 30 degrees inclusive:



Reprofiling was done freehand on the watercooled black silicon Tormek stone, refining with the grit 60 Rubber Wheel.
The new edge shaves hair above skinlevel and still has quite a lot of bite.
 
Nice review.
By any chance you get better performance with a full flat grind in this knife, in your opinion or not?

For the intended use of the knife being a harder use tool I think the grind is correct.

If one wanted more of a slicer than yes a thinner flat grind would be better obviously.
 
Since i had some very slight edge chipping (seen through a magnifying glass) after hacking & cutting some dried oak (probably due to the rather coarse edge), i decided to thin the edge a bit and also refine it just a little.
Will see how this edge holds up on the same wood in a few days.

With the original 40 degrees inclusive coarse edge:



New, somewhat finer & slightly convex edge with an edge angle between 25 and 30 degrees inclusive:



Reprofiling was done freehand on the watercooled black silicon Tormek stone, refining with the grit 60 Rubber Wheel.
The new edge shaves hair above skinlevel and still has quite a lot of bite.

Nice work. :)

I might take mine down to 18 DPS before I shoot the video, haven't decided yet though if I will leave it at what it is or change it.
 
That new edge is sexy looking! Nice Job! Also, hell of a thorough review Ankerson. I should really consider getting a few of you guys together for some kind of review corner on my page. A few of you now have put a good amount of thought in to some of these more technical reviews. It is most appreciated.

-Guy

Since i had some very slight edge chipping (seen through a magnifying glass) after hacking & cutting some dried oak (probably due to the rather coarse edge), i decided to thin the edge a bit and also refine it just a little.
Will see how this edge holds up on the same wood in a few days.

With the original 40 degrees inclusive coarse edge:



New, somewhat finer & slightly convex edge with an edge angle between 25 and 30 degrees inclusive:



Reprofiling was done freehand on the watercooled black silicon Tormek stone, refining with the grit 60 Rubber Wheel.
The new edge shaves hair above skinlevel and still has quite a lot of bite.
 
Thanks Ankerson, I hold your posts about steel in the highest regards. A lot of knowledge about steel has come from your hard work:D Thanks!
 
That new edge is sexy looking! Nice Job! Also, hell of a thorough review Ankerson. I should really consider getting a few of you guys together for some kind of review corner on my page. A few of you now have put a good amount of thought in to some of these more technical reviews. It is most appreciated.

-Guy


Guy,

Thanks, I try to do a number of different things in my reviews that cover a broader range of tasks that people might do in the real world. :thumbup:

Also I try and highlight the attributes of the knives showing their strong points. :)


Jim
 
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