Pick a fight? over a Busse

oh no your cool now...we cleared things up quite early. i think after i reworded my question to be not so offensive and you understood my stupidity everything was alright. you know your my dog...or should i say hog?
 
Paw-bah, My Brother, the truth is:

If you don't buy for yourself at least one Busse, you will always asking yourself the same question over and over and over again. As you can see, Busse fans are happy fans! Most of us are happy even with the price we pay :thumbup:

The more proper question will be, which model should be your first Busse :confused: Tell us what size you are looking for then we will try provide you a better suggestion.

You don't like your Busse, you can always dump back in the market. Someone prob can't wait to grab. :D
 
Wuyeah i read the page you posted and i bookmarked it so i could go back and study it.
but from what i read it was a sales write-up,,read the clames again,,what is claimed could be said about 440C at that Rockwell.

i know it sounds like i am being piss-ee but i am searching for answers not trying to tear them down,,like i said I like the look of them,,but a knife maker doesn't buy a lot of knives,,he makes his own.

so thank you all in advance for this education.
 
Paw-bah,
While we've got you on the line here, if you should find yourself down in Tucson sometime, give me a shout and I'll let you take a look at any Busse I own. Of the users I have, I will also let you pick your poison and put her to use. No kidding. Just give me a day or so notice and we'll be good to go.
 
First of all I don't own a Busse Knife but Christmas is coming soon and I have bookmarked the site in my wifes computer....What I can tell you is that every Knife show I have attended there are always two or three people around all the sellers tables until you get to the Busse table.

It looks like The Iowa State Picnic with about 40 or 50 people vying for a shot at the front of the table. I first thought they were giving away free beer and naked women but I discovered they only sold knives and saw many happy faces except for the ones who could not find the knife they wanted in time. You will see people buying 3 and 4 knives at a time and if you know the cost that's WAYYYY beyond my spending ability but everything good comes to those who wait so until Dec. 25th I''ll envy all the other Busse owners and then I can be a piglet too :-)
 
Paw-bah said:
a knife maker doesn't buy a lot of knives,,he makes his own.
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I don't against your doubt but highly against the quote. A great knife maker should buy and study highly praised knives. It's like marketing research seeking answer like "what customer want from a knife and what they are looking for."

Graphic art is my career, study other graphic work is highly important for me to produce better work for my customer. Knowing what they want and looking for. To me, knife making is making art work too. Simply Busse blade looks and feels like art pieces.

I am trying to be pushy, simply I understand how you feel. Seriously.
Unlike you, I wasn't really attracted Busse at first sight, but i was curious. I was more curious about why not so special looking knife got so many ppl crazy about, especially the price seems CRAZY~

Busse, you really have to hold it to understand. From Jerry told me himself, a Busse, you really need to use it to REALLY LOVE it.
 
on the edge,,Thank you,,
my name is Skip and i am a member of the Arizona Knife Collectors Association (AKCA)
when we meet that would be cool
 
1) Great practical design (Full length and full width tangs, indestructable handle materials)
2) superior steels and heat treat (Even before INFI, he only worked with high quality tool steels like A-2, D-2, and ATS34)
3) Best warranty in the business (see above to know how he can afford to offer it)
4) lot`s of personal service
5) He`s trained a crew to be almost as good as he is. So if anything happens to him your warranty is still good. They can also answer questions and help get knives out faster.
6) Busse Combat has become a factory...with a one-man-shop attitude. By that I mean they are able to turn out the high level of quality that you only get with the best custom craftsmanship doing things one at a time.But since several guys are working together under Jerry`s eye they can turn those knives out faster and cheaper than a one-man-shop.
7) Jerry`s nameis on those knives.You can bet that the pride that goes into everyone of the knives that comes out of Wauseon means that it was double and triple checked at every stage by guys who are actively looking to be better than the guy next to them. It was that way when Jerry started out years ago with a couple friends assisting him part time. It was that way for the 7 years I spent in the custom shop. And I`d bet my house it`s like that now that I`m gone. Jerry`s a Great guy.....but he has a very low Bullshot tolerance.
 
This question and similar questions come up over and over, so please forgive me for recycling the same answer I gave last time, which was recycled from another:

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Why Busse over less expensive knives? I'll dredge up a response I made to a similar thread back in 2003:

There are lots of reasons. On the demand side of the equation:

Some people think it is realistic that a knife's reliability when used hard in extenuating circumstances may be a matter of life and death for them, some day. Some of these people think that Busse knives are the most reliable that they are aware of and have been able to find. And some of these people are willing to pay a premium for the most reliable knives, to have the best "life insurance" available. (I happen to be one of these people.)

Some people place a high value on an unconditional, transferable, lifetime warranty. Besides the obvious fact that it means you get replacements or repairs of damaged goods, it also can show that the maker trusts the product's ability to withstand as broad of a scope of use as the purchaser may choose to perform--trusts this enough to put his money where his mouth is. It can also show that the maker trusts the purchaser, and is willing to be honest in his dealings. (I happen to be one of these people, too.)

Some people consider it important to have a personal relationship with a maker who is trustworthy and accountable--someone who will personally discuss options with you and guide you through the process of getting what is right for you, someone who will call you up to make sure that the product meets your satisfaction, someone who will personally expedite making things right when issues arise--and someone whose product you can utterly trust because you trust him personally, because he's earned your friendship as well as your business. (I happen to be one of these people, as well.)

Some uncompromising people simply like to have the best, and are willing to pay a high premium for the privelege. Those who demand the best and think Busses are the best don't balk at the prices Busses fetch. (In some areas, this describes me, too.)

Some people enjoy collecting beautiful, rare--or even unique--collectibles, and are willing to pay for the privelege. For many, Busse knives are a satisfying area for collecting.

Some people like investing in a commodity which, historically, has held its value well, or even increased over time. Busse knives are such a commodity.

The Busse Combat Knives Team has the business know-how to drum up demand, even at moderately steep prices. (They're actually not that expensive, in comparison to their closest functional competitiors.) And, generally speaking, the cost is what the market will bear.

I'm sure there are plenty of other demand-side reasons, too, but I'm getting too tired to think about it.

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On the supply side of the price equation:

Designing and creating your own steel from scratch--the steel with the best combination of hardness, toughness, and strength on the market (for its intended use)--is a lengthy and expensive undertaking. It is reasonable to demand compensation for this.

Researching and performing the most extensive heat treatment and cryogenic treatment on the market isn't cheap, either.

Making every knife by hand in a shop (as opposed to entirely by machines, in a factory) costs, too.

Testing every knife is another significant expense.

Offering various associated services, such as free resharpenings, also adds to the purchase price.

And, yup, he probably makes a tidy profit. I don't begrudge him this; I hope he does. He's continually pushed the limits, innovated, in material design, blade design, functionality, textures, aesthetics, etc. He's made sure to stay personally accessible to his customers. He's donated huge numbers of blades to soldiers, and been a generous supporter of good causes. He's put in the time, effort, and money to make uncompromisingly the best product he can make, and the best product I can get. He deserves his fair share.

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Does all this mean that his knives are worth the price? Value is an individual thing, and I won't presume to make that determination for you. I'll just say that they're worth it to me.
 
From my perspective, I am interested in knowing that my knife will NEVER let me down. Sometimes I get to be in pretty remote places doing archaeology work for my friends at the USFS, and my Busses (any of them) make me feel secure. Even more importantly, I have met some the the best people I know right here on this site. Hard to beat that as a fringe to owning the world's best knives! :thumbup:

A girl needs a knife...and make mine a Busse!
 
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