Plane Crash

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PrimitiveMan

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Plane justwent down in the Hudson River
Water temp 41 degrees
Looks like a bird strike took out an engine
Everyone out safely from first reports
 
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Wow it looks like alot of the people have survived!!!!!!! Thank god!
 
imagine being down under there trapped in a sinking cold wet plane...amazing everone survived... thank goodness for those ferry workers
 
Been watching the news coverage ... pretty amazing there were no serious injuries
 
I'm a private pilot and bird strikes are always a concern.

I have A LOT of respect for those pilots. The reported bird strikes appear to have happened shortly after take-off. The pilot got the aircraft in the air, was able to maintain a little more flight time while flying at a very low speed, 'land' that aircraft in the water and didn't have the nose or any other part of the aircraft dig in.
He must have flared just before he touched down and just laid that airplane on in. The aircraft stayed intact for a water landing. How often does that happen?! (Hint: almost never)...
I've only seen the early reports, but being a pilot, I do have to say that the pilots of that Airbus did an excellent job in that emergency!

Regards,
Mike
 
Excellent pilot....everybody survived or looked that away and bird strikes suck,I bet I pick up atleast one a year, bird struck aircraft,
Last year flying from TX to Florida in a B-55 about 6500Ft,3 Turkey buzzards almost collided with us...man that was freaking scary due to you do not want to over correct in to there flight path & for a little bit it look like a head on collison inbound and then they swooped up clearing the wing by about 6 ft ,I looked that bird dead in the eye as he flew over the left wing....
 
God was certainly with everyone on that flight, and I am so thankful He was and that everyone got out alive.

Amazing job by the pilots too, and thanks to the boats that came to the rescue.
 
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The pilots did do an amazing job. Thank God.

News reports said it has been more than 2 years since the last commercial accident - an amazing feat as well.

People may have some hypothermia but at least everyone is alive.

TTD may have some extra things to do now too...;):D
 
Hey I'm asking this question out of ignorance and general sarcasm...

All the technology we have and nobody has figured out a way to keep a bird out of the turbines? Couldn't a metal screen of some sort keep bird and debris out of the engines and still allow air to flow in?

I'm sure its 'easier said than done' but come on - engineers can't solve this?
 
That's not exactly correct. It's been since August '06 since the last commercial crash that had fatalities. There have been lots of fatal private crashes and a few commercial crashes without fatalities. Nevertheless, considering the thousands of planes in the air over the U.S. every minute of the day, it's a pretty astonishing safety record.

And thank God this one wasn't as bad as it could have been. Not just the people on the plane; that part of Manhattan has thousands of people. A crash into the buildings would have been horrendous.
 
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Hey I'm asking this question out of ignorance and general sarcasm...

All the technology we have and nobody has figured out a way to keep a bird out of the turbines? Couldn't a metal screen of some sort keep bird and debris out of the engines and still allow air to flow in?

I'm sure its 'easier said than done' but come on - engineers can't solve this?
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The problem is not restricting the volume of air flow, but rather the state of the stream.

As far as I understand, it is critical that the flow into the engine be a "laminar" flow, which means the air needs to flow smoothly. A screen would create turbulence, which would disrupt the flow of air into the turbine.
 
From what I understand pilots and crew only get paid for time aloft. Since the flight was only 6 minutes, I guess they didn't get paid much today.

The crew did a good job.
 
I don't know if you can completely eliminate the risk of a bird strike, but you can reduce the risk by shooting them. Of course anti-hunting and pressure from gun control wing nuts has reduced hunting about 12% nationwide and the next generation will be WAY worse because evryone is trying to be all "PC" and nobody is bothering to pass on the tradition.

Populations of migratory birds are exploding..
 
one heck of great landing by that Pilot, both in avoiding buildings and landing on the water like he did without busting up.

I watched the first report when it happened, saw that first boat going outtowrds it, commentator said 12 people out on the wing looked like the rest dead. Then the reports just kept getting better and better, everyone out, all alive!
 
Looks like a bird strike took out an engine
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According to NBC reports, bird strikes took out both engines. Seems the plane collided with a flock of geese. Watching the news, it was obvious just how much bird traffic there is right there.
 
I have to bring this up because im a pilot and I know there are several others on this forum who are. I fly out of memphis and there were problems here with birds and during one of our training session we had an FAA guy sitting in to monitor. We complained about the bird problem because our boss was upset @ the amount of money he spent annually replacing struck landing lights, dented leading edges and even a busted windscreen. We were told that the Memphis airport authority sought to poison the birds to controll the problem but were denied, because of environmentalist pressure on the feds. Take it for what its worth but I hate to see several hundred people die because of some misguided fools plight to save a few birds. Thank God no one lost thier lives in this incident but it is a more common porblem than you might think.

John
 
we have a great bird control program at Vancouver Airport (BC). bird dogs, 2 falcons, propane cannons, cannon nets, shotguns, .22 rifles, screechers, bangers, flashbangs, the two guys that run the program get to play with all the good stuff. :thumbup:

of course, some liberal, lacto-ovo raw food, tree hugging , MEC wearing, environaz* will always come along and wail and gnash their teeth and cry about "THOSE POOR BIRDS! ITS SO BARBARIC WHAT THEY DO TO THEY! WAAH WAAAAH WAAAAAH!" :thumbdn:
 
There's two sides to the bird killing debates. I'm in favor of clenaing out local problem infestations with guns and dogs, and some species are a PROBLEM directly because of human buildup increasing their ecological niche size. But mass poisonings I wouldn't go for.

Back in Keflavik it was like a prairie dog party, but... easier.

I certainly wouldn't mass poison migrating geese, for example. I WOULD manually cut back on the resident population- lately it seems like some species of the wild geese on the east coast have stopped migrating and become big ass pigeons.


For the pilot and crew. Whoa. no engine landing, clearing a bridge by a few hundred feet, getting lined up on the river and surfing the landing. Those people drink for free for a long time.
 
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