Please be on the lookout for fake USPS money orders.

Mitchell Knives said:
I'm hoping that this is the case in this situation.
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Me too, it sounds most likely you got a new money order that they didn't recognize.

I'd call the District Attorney's Office of the County where the Money Order came from if it turns out to be a a fake. They will hopefully take care of the problem
 
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Mitchell Knives said:
I spoke with the buyer a few hours ago. He said that he still has the receipt that he received from the PO.

He said that he will be sending another MO.

I'll provide him the contact information for the Postmaster if he has questions.

Stranger things have happened, so I don't think naming them right now is appropriate.

I've done business with this person before, so they get the benefit of the doubt.


New knives are on the way! I accepted a new job a while back, and have been a little tied up with that lately.
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Thats a thought, it may be some postal worker conspiracy :D who knows.
 
Bigfattyt said:
Nathan, I think you handled that situation as best you could. Hopefully you got paid up front for your work though! Hopefully they nailed that guy.
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Thanks. I guess you saw that thread for the little while it was up. I handled it the best I could, but I hate being put into a position of having to "handle a situation". And that's the trouble with doing business over the interwebs, there is no face to face meeting where you can feel somebody out. I have to believe if we'd met before conducting business he would'a thrown up some red flags. As it is I'm not taking orders from unestablished makers anymore.
 
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It sounds really odd. If the buyer really has a receipt from the Post Office for the first money order and the postmaster confiscated that money order then who is scamming who? Now the guy is willing to send you another M.O.? Strange indeed.
 
digdeep said:
It sounds really odd. If the buyer really has a receipt from the Post Office for the first money order and the postmaster confiscated that money order then who is scamming who? Now the guy is willing to send you another M.O.? Strange indeed.
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If he did actually get a fake money order from the post office that he purchased it at, it would make me wonder who is scamming who here as well.
 
The client sent me a picture of the receipts he received from the PO.

Perhaps the local PO is incompetent?
 
That is really a bizarre situation. The guy says he got the USPS MO from the post office and has a receipt, yet the Postmaster says it is fraudulent? I'm not even going to speculate as to what might've happened there. I do know that not all postal workers are honest, and I further know that counterfeiting or tampering with a USPS MO is a federal felony on the same level as counterfeiting cash. Other types of MO or check, not a federal crime excepting possibly mail fraud, and there have been a lot of bogus off brand MOs floating around. Anyone who counterfeits a USPS MO and conducts a transaction directly traceable to him is doublestoopid, and I find it unlikely that a postal employee would be handing out bogus MOs and pocketing the cash because that would definitely catch up to them rather quickly and Postal Inspectors would love to "make an example" of someone like that.
 
I'm subscribing to this thread. The only thing that could have made this worse than the counterfeiting story is that now we can't even expect the post master to be smart enough to know a real MO from a fake. The suspense is killing me.
 
Mitchell Knives said:
I spoke with the buyer a few hours ago. He said that he still has the receipt that he received from the PO.

He said that he will be sending another MO.

I'll provide him the contact information for the Postmaster if he has questions.

Stranger things have happened, so I don't think naming them right now is appropriate.

I've done business with this person before, so they get the benefit of the doubt.
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I'm not accusing anyone of anything nor saying it happened this time but...

Someone trying to be crafty could purchase real money orders for a certain amount, then print fake ones for the same amount. Ship the fake ones...later cash the real ones themselves. Then they have a receipt proving purchase of the money order.
 
ecos said:
I'm not accusing anyone of anything nor saying it happened this time but...

Someone trying to be crafty could purchase real money orders for a certain amount, then print fake ones for the same amount. Ship the fake ones...later cash the real ones themselves. Then they have a receipt proving purchase of the money order.
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I am glad someone else posted what I was thinking. I have heard of that exact situation happening before.

I HIGHLY doubt a USPS employee would sell a fake one or have "accidentally" printed on a fake one.
 
Good info about USPS MO's. I will take any form of payment from a buyer but I always tell them I won't ship until my bank has received cleared funds, and that could take several weeks. So if they are willing to wait I'll take pieces of paper as payment. My preferred way of payment is Paypal. You can still get stiffed but you have some recourse using Paypal.
 
Thanks for the heads up. I would never had thought twice about taking a USPS MO. I will now,like everyone else I do wait till cashed before shipping.

Steve
 
the water mark of Ben is not that easy to see . It just took me awhile looking at one I have here . But there is also a strip on the left side boxing in old Ben that has usps in the strip . Also , my bank clears M/O instantly , they have a reader scanner for them .
 
I'll just add that the folks working at the USPS aren't always right on such things. I have had them tell me the shipping rules ( and many others have posted the same) and they were 100% wrong. I have mailed two identical packages to the same person and been charged different prices.

I believe they change the money orders regularly when there is a rash of counterfeits. I would be willing to bet that this is a good MO and badly informed postal employees. The fact that he had a "Stack" of fake money orders seems strange. NYC or LA, maybe...but Wilson ,NC?????

I also remember being told by a postal employee that my $20 bills were counterfeit. He said he could tell by looking at them. He was, of course, FOS. They were brand new from the bank, and he hadn't seen the latest change.
 
bladsmth said:
I'll just add that the folks working at the USPS aren't always right on such things. I have had them tell me the shipping rules ( and many others have posted the same) and they were 100% wrong. I have mailed two identical packages to the same person and been charged different prices.

I believe they change the money orders regularly when there is a rash of counterfeits. I would be willing to bet that this is a good MO and badly informed postal employees. The fact that he had a "Stack" of fake money orders seems strange. NYC or LA, maybe...but Wilson ,NC?????

I also remember being told by a postal employee that my $20 bills were counterfeit. He said he could tell by looking at them. He was, of course, FOS. They were brand new from the bank, and he hadn't seen the latest change.
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The Norfolk post office at Little Creek is a real piece of work. One worker was stealing packages there with "delivery confirmation" and insurance and entering into the system that they were delivered . . . and I had a PO Box!!! The only good thing about that place was the great BBQ across the street. :)
 
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