please help me choose a survival knife: ka-bar vs gerber LMFII Asek vs Cold Steel SRK

Get a Fallkniven F1. It might not be as combat as the other knives but much, much better, and easier to bring along.

Ka-Bar: why serrated edge?, why so long? The short one is better if you HAVE to have a Ka-bar.
LMF II: best size of the three, but you can not hammer it because of the pointy thing.
SRK: Too long and no protruding tang. Quality?

If you absolutely need to have a longer knife, get the S1.
You can get them with black coating, but why?
 
nodh, have you ever used or owned a LMF? I'm asking cause your statement about it is wrong. The pommel specifically enables hammering among other things.

I am also seeing a clear trend with your posts as all your replies in threads seem to be to promote Fallkniven products.
Why is that? What other knives do you own in the Fallkniven price range to formulate opinions on the Fallkniven superiority?
 
nodh, have you ever used or owned a LMF? I'm asking cause your statement about it is wrong. The pommel specifically enables hammering among other things.

I am also seeing a clear trend with your posts as all your replies in threads seem to be to promote Fallkniven products.
Why is that? What other knives do you own in the Fallkniven price range to formulate opinions on the Fallkniven superiority?

PatriotDan you are right. I checked nodh's posts. 25 out of the last 50 of them have promoted falkniven products.

It does kind of make nodt a specialist and somewhat taints his advice.

Thanks for the warning.
 
Of the three knives listed I own the Ka-bar and the SRK.The Ka-bar has never let me down in the woods as a survival knife.The SRK is thicker and has a thicker edge that may need to be ground down if you want a razor edge.It's a tough blade.(I have the carbon V model).
I've never handled the LMF.
P.S.What's wrong with nodh liking Fallkniven?They're good knives.
 
The ASEK does have a sharp edged end for breaking glass, that is right. but on the other hand if you for any reason you have to hammer the edge into something, the thing you hammer with will be destroyed because of the sharp end. So in that case we are both right.

About suggesting Fallkniven back and forth, up and down, here and there as you put it. Well, it is a good knife, I believe it is the best, and many with me, like other people think their brand is the best and just because I want to inform you about that fact disqualifies me from the discussion and renders me a warning, that is so not cool. Why dont you pick on the people who swear by their Strider knives or SOG or Becker or RAT or even that strange overpriced Italian brand, ultimata, optimala, whatever.

The reason I would choose the ASK between the three is because it has a decent size. I do have a SRK lying around and I have handled the Ka-Bar and those feels to big to me. It is nothing I would be dragging around all day in my belt, maybe in my pack but I would prefer a more subtle but still great knife so with the three options it is the ASEK, even though I dont like the end and the serrations. But then you already know which knife I would choose anyway.
By the way, you can hammer on the Ka-Bar as well but the the butt end is riveted, screwed or something so it will eventually break.

The best thing to do if you have the three knives you asked about is to take them out in the woods and use them. You might fancy one of them more than the other.

The reason I suggest shorter knives instead of huge ones is that if you are going camping most camping chores are the same all over the world, with some local exceptions, and in Europe the popular choice for knife is a 4" knife (Bark River, F1, Ray Mears Woodlore, Mora 2000 etc), a multitool and a folding saw or axe. There is no need for big knives, that job you do with the axe and if you bring a big knife you still have to bring a small knife anyway. But there is also no need for the "defence" portion of a knife choice so that itself shortens the knife you choose.

A "survival" knife is not a 700 USD super duper handmade three of a kind titanium NASA Specops 50 part survival system if that chunk is left in the pack or in the car. It is the knife you always carry with you, all the time so your survival knife might be a LM wave if need be. The F1 is a survival knife, as is the ASEK, they are though developed for different uses. The F1 is for surviving in the forests and the ASEK seems to focus on the "getting out of the plane" part. If used in a real situation I guess they will perform the same but the F1 is better quality and lasts longer.

There are knifes as big as the Kabar and SRK in the Fallkniven range as well, the A1, but it is not as popular as the F1 just because it is considered too big.
I am looking into buying an ASEK and bring it outdoors for a spin whe the time comes, I might also buy a Ka-Bar just to have one, but I would still be using my folding saw, it is safer to use.

But still, I am not forcing you to choose what I tell you is good, you decide for youself. I could suggest the Mora 2000 too. It is a good knife for a good price but that too is shorter than a Ka-Bar etc.

I still think the warning is uncalled for.
 
Out of the three you listed. If I could find an SRK in Carbon V I would go with it but if not I would go with the K-Bar and then the Gerber. I looked at the Gerber once and it just did not feel good to me.
 
Of the three knives listed the Cold Steel SRK probably has the best balance of toughness and edge holding. The Gerber LMF II would be my second choice, and if rust resistance is important to you the Gerber would be best.
If you have the money for it, I would recommend any of the Fallkniven products. I don’t actually have one, but they are high on my “to buy” list. They use top notch materials, rust resistant, good edge holding, and if you don’t plan on prying a car apart they should hold up quite well. I have yet to see a negative review of a Fallkniven knife.
Here’s a little review.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=471741&highlight=fallkniven
Here’s a good place to order from.
http://www.newgraham.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=151
 
The ASEK does have a sharp edged end for breaking glass, that is right. but on the other hand if you for any reason you have to hammer the edge into something, the thing you hammer with will be destroyed because of the sharp end. So in that case we are both right.

In a word. No. ASEK is the LMF + safety knife combo that Gerber sells. LMF is the knife in question. It is clear you have not even held LMF in your hand and making comments based on web pictures is not very credible. The pommel is slanted with ONE sharp corner BUT it has 2 sides that are usable for hammering nails for example. I should know, I've actually done it. I actually own this said knife.

And it is not that (single) purpose oriented as you make us believe. Look at LMF ads all you want but it is in fact excellent for many if not all functions edged tools are needed in current military ops excluding green side ops. Which I brought up in my earlier reply.


About suggesting Fallkniven back and forth, up and down, here and there as you put it. Well, it is a good knife, I believe it is the best, and many with me, like other people think their brand is the best and just because I want to inform you about that fact disqualifies me from the discussion and renders me a warning, that is so not cool. Why dont you pick on the people who swear by their Strider knives or SOG or Becker or RAT or even that strange overpriced Italian brand, ultimata, optimala, whatever.

I don't pick on anyone. How adolescent. You were noticed because rarely is it seen such blatant praise of a brand while offering no comparative reasoning or experience of other brands. Your replies stand out as ads only.

And oh, while we're on the subject of picking on someone, picking on other brands which I'm guessing here you probably have no experience with while promoting your favourite once again is not cool either whether they are overpriced or not.


In short, your problem has been blindly promoting your favourite knife brand without any actual knowledge of other brands in the same price range or saying anything meaningful other than your Fallkniven praises. How about a look in the mirror?

I'm done with you, you either get it and straighten up or don't. Have a nice day.
 
I'd go with the Cold Steel mainly because I HATE serrated blades. They just suck when you have to sharpen them. Great for cutting rope, but if you don't HAVE to, then I wouldn't get a serrated blade. Anyway, a properly sharpened knife will cut just about anything anyway.
If you don't want a serrated blade now, I'd go for the K-bar (without serrations or course). A time proven knife with a great company that stands behind them.
 
SRK - You won't be dissapointed especially if it's in carbon V. Down side is no hammer butt like the Gerber LMF II. But that sure keeps the weight down.
LMF II - Has a blade which is half the stock thickness of the SRK. Stainless. But I am not to sure if that's a good point.
Ka-Bar - Largest of the three. What's there to complaint?
 
Thank you. I actually do have a nice day. It is Sweden's national day so I have been down watching the marching band and some folk dancers and the (kind of) mayor do some dull speach. :)

By whatever knife you want, I use mine and you can use yours.
About hammering, we are talking about two different things, but I too dont care anymore. :)
To everyone and all, without exceptions, have a nice and wonderful weekend.
 
Out of those 3, I have handled the Gerber and the Ka Bar, and I recommend both. But the Gerber's serrations, actually help it chop way better than a plain edge.
 
Can't comment on the Gerber, but while both the Kabar and the SRK will work fine, I'd recommend the SRK. The Kabar is more of a fighting knife. It has a long, but relatively thin blade and a sharpened swedge. That means it doesn't chop very well and, while it is certainly tough enough for batonning, because of the swedge and the guard the baton often imbeds on the knife itself, so it isn't very efficient for the task. If I was going to carry a 7" blade I'd prefer it chop and baton better than a Kabar. I think the SRK is better for what you are looking for. I too would recommend that you look for one in Carbon V.
 
I prefer the SRK to the other two. It feels better in the hand for the tasks I would use such a knife for, and it was purchased 4 to 1 over the KA-BAR at the PX in Baghdad and Taji by the soldiers there. What works for the GIs for a day to day utility/survival knife works for me.
 
i'm a 13 year old boy and have had the KABAR about a year its a tough knife and the one i would get i dug two holes with it and the finish is worn away on the tip but o well i've thrown it into trees and bent the guards back double then rebent them back it is tough

Apologies for the thread drift. . .

Hello! Thanks for sharing. You remind me of my own (mis)adventures as a youngster with knives long ago. It's good you're enjoying your hobby but be careful though (got my own share of nasty "scratches") and use your tools sensibly so you could learn to use them better. :thumbup:
 
At work they still tease me for having managed to cut my right ring finger with my S1. I am right handed :) So as someone said, a knife is not really yours until you have cut yourself with it. :)
 
I own the Gerber & SRK carbon V and i like both but my fav is the Gerber, excellent knife and it is made in the U.S.A., all 3 style you named are great but it all is personal preferrence,i suggest going to a gun/knife show and look and hold all the knives there that are in your budget range and make a decision based on your needs.
 
I've had my SRK since '93. Thats the first knife i used to practice my throwing skills. I abused the hell out of it but it never failed me. Get it if you can find one in carbon V.
 
Out of those 3, I have handled the Gerber and the Ka Bar, and I recommend both. But the Gerber's serrations, actually help it chop way better than a plain edge.

would you or somebody else who agrees care to explain exactly how those serrations help the Gerber chop better?

I'm a complete newbie to knives, but it seems that most agree around here that straight is better than serrated for wood.
 
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