Please help me find a carry option

Jordan1010 said:
i ToI have never been a fan of SOB (small of back) carry for firearms, or scout carry as it is called, for knives. Not because of the fear of injury, but I just find it impractical.


Yea I totally agree about the practicality of it, I don’t yet own a firearm but when I do get one I would ideally hope for appendix carry the only reason I wouldn’t carry my fixed blade appendix is because I’m a “bigger guy” and I run the Risk of cutting myself
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Please educate yourself on the risks of gun appendix carry, remember do not point at anything you are not willing to destroy.

Unfortunately I know it's really popular with the youtube and ig community, but uts a really bad idea.
 
Yo Mama said:
Please educate yourself on the risks of gun appendix carry, remember do not point at anything you are not willing to destroy.

Unfortunately I know it's really popular with the youtube and ig community, but uts a really bad idea.
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No finger on trigger, No boom boom.

*on a serious note.
put a bore laser on and draw from where ever your feel comfortable.
I bet *Most people aren't clearing their hips, guts, legs, feet, buttcheeks.... whatever.

cross-draw is by far one of the most dangerous ways to carry. (for other people)
just saying.

But you Do bring up a good point..... Hopefully people think about what they are doing. Before they do it!
 
Yo Mama said:
Please educate yourself on the risks of gun appendix carry, remember do not point at anything you are not willing to destroy.

Unfortunately I know it's really popular with the youtube and ig community, but uts a really bad idea.
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I don't care for appendix carry, but it's for different reasons. I've been taught from a very, very early age to tuck my shirt into my pants under all circumstances, and it's a habit I just can't break. Unfortunately you can't appendix carry and have a tucked in shirt at the same time. It's just not possible.
 
Crag the Brewer said:
No finger on trigger, No boom boom.

*on a serious note.
put a bore laser on and draw from where ever your feel comfortable.
I bet *Most people aren't clearing their hips, guts, legs, feet, buttcheeks.... whatever.

cross-draw is by far one of the most dangerous ways to carry. (for other people)
just saying.

But you Do bring up a good point..... Hopefully people think about what they are doing. Before they do it!
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Fingers actually don't need to be on trigger for a kaboom. Anything stuck inside the holster including clothing ect. can get into the channel.

And yeah like you said, even hip carry can cross the body on a draw, will most likely be the fatty back side though! 😀
 
Yo Mama said:
Fingers actually don't need to be on trigger for a kaboom. Anything stuck inside the holster including clothing ect. can get into the channel.

And yeah like you said, even hip carry can cross the body on a draw, will most likely be the fatty back side though! 😀
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If you are still curious about appendix carry...?
There are snap on trigger guards that eliminate the worry of accidentally getting in there.
Paracord is attached, and pulls it off AFTER its pulled out, and clear.
Works good.
 
Hip carry points towards your femoral artery too and 4 o clock points at your butt so idk what your talking about
Yo Mama said:
Please educate yourself on the risks of gun appendix carry, remember do not point at anything you are not willing to destroy.

Unfortunately I know it's really popular with the youtube and ig community, but uts a really bad idea.
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Acute spinal injury can occur from falling wrong against something. However, long-term issues can also develop from having regular daily pressure. It all depends on the particulars. Remember that carry guns are typically between 1" and 1.4" wide and that doesn't count the extra bulk from a holster. They have a much different "EDC footprint" than knives, which can be relatively thin in kydex.

For belt knives, kydex is a must for me. I prefer either horizontal carry along the belt line with soft loops or high vertical carry on my side with a Tek-Lok. A "cover garment" is important with any of these because even where legal, there will always be people who get freaked out by a person carrying a knife. (While this is dumb, it is a fact. There is no value in making people uncomfortable at the supermarket so be polite and stay concealed.) If I am traveling to a place that does not allow guns, I will often carry a larger fixed blade IWB at my side or just behind.

A big issue will be finding what works for your specific body, clothes, etc. It will involve trial and error. The size of the knife obviously matters. One of my favorite budget fixed blades for carry in any of those orientations, either horizontally on soft loops or high vertical on a Tek-Lok, is the Real Steel Receptor. It is compact enough for comfortable carry. The handle is comfortable for regular use. The blade is big enough for most utility applications and just big enough for defensive use if need be.
 
You can check out a Mic so you don't shoot your %#@^. At any rate a Mic holster covers the trigger and guard so no accidental discharges. Also check out the CM carry method for fixed blades, pretty slick. I carry my G29 daily in a Mic, I like it because it reminds me of when I carried Mex style. It's very light weight and about as minimal as you can safely carry a sidearm. Good luck on your hunt.
 
I carry small of back or just off to the left of the direct 6 o'clock still on the back. I made the following calculations.

1. The idea that I am going to fall directly on my knife with enough force to break my spine is pretty unlikely. If that is a real concern I probably shouldn't drive a car, own a firearm, drink alcohol, go swimming, etc since all of those things are more likely to result in death or grievous bodily harm than a magical fall on the direct point of my knife sheath causing damage to my spine. I am under 30 years old though so randomly falling on my ass isn't really a normal concern for me.

2. I carry a smaller fixed blade, currently a ESEE-3 in contoured G-10 and S35VN. Being around 3-4 inches in blade length means that fitting on the small of my back works more so than something huge and it has the benefit of being able to be concealed slightly. Don't want it sticking out in the urinal or the checkout line at a 7-11? Just throw your shirt over it before going in the store. Sure it will print but very slim chance some onlooking would be criminal is going to draw the conclusion "Hey that slight bulge is probably a knife so i should go run up and pull this guys shirt up and start groping him."

3. Any concern regarding the security of your blade in line or anywhere else while in scout carry is virtually equal if you are open carrying the knife vertically. Is it really that much more secure by being a few more inches to my left and vertical if it doesnt have a secondary form of retention? Further, I CCW a firearm. So if they are going to make a play for the knife that they have intuited is the bulge in my shirt they are going to have to be a mix of Jean Claude van Dam and John Wick to get to it and get it out of an unfamiliar sheath in time.
 
Jordan1010 said:
Hello fixed blade carriers,
I have been struggling with how to carry my fixed blade, I decided the small of my back was comfortable and less noticeable than all the others but I remembered about reading how many people got spinal injuries due to carrying a firearm around that area and falling. Do you guys think carrying a blade around there would cause harm such as a firearm would? I also read about how an officer carried cuffs on his back hip side and got injured from falling on them.
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It depends on the size of blade you are carrying, but I carry a lot of fixed blades on the smaller side. I find the UltiClip to be extremely versatile and valuable in carrying a fixed blade. Using the UltiClip, I often carry a fixed blade in my pocket, similar to how I carry folders. I also use it to carry inside my waistband on my hip, which I find unobtrusive. An system like the UltiClip gives a lot of options for carry and a lot of flexibility. That may not be helpful, but I hope it is, somewhat. Good luck!
 
jstn said:
It depends on the size of blade you are carrying, but I carry a lot of fixed blades on the smaller side. I find the UltiClip to be extremely versatile and valuable in carrying a fixed blade. Using the UltiClip, I often carry a fixed blade in my pocket, similar to how I carry folders. I also use it to carry inside my waistband on my hip, which I find unobtrusive. An system like the UltiClip gives a lot of options for carry and a lot of flexibility. That may not be helpful, but I hope it is, somewhat. Good luck!
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I know I'm behind the curve but I still haven't tried the UltiClip. It seems to be a win for workout clothing and such.

When you use it in the pocket, is there ever an issue with resheathing?
 
Chronovore said:
I know I'm behind the curve but I still haven't tried the UltiClip. It seems to be a win for workout clothing and such.

When you use it in the pocket, is there ever an issue with resheathing?
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I haven’t had any as long as I am careful. They really are a great option and fairly cheap too.
 
Crag the Brewer said:
No finger on trigger, No boom boom.

*on a serious note.
put a bore laser on and draw from where ever your feel comfortable.
I bet *Most people aren't clearing their hips, guts, legs, feet, buttcheeks.... whatever.

cross-draw is by far one of the most dangerous ways to carry. (for other people)
just saying.

But you Do bring up a good point..... Hopefully people think about what they are doing. Before they do it!
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I carry appendix. I have for about 26 years now. I am sure I will be having the whole - shirt tail in the trigger guard catastrophe any day now. or maybe not. I actually tried to get my weapon to dry fire in my pants (after clearing it multiple times). Did the experiment WITHOUT a holster (the way I carried for YEARS). I fed my shirt tail through the trigger guard, shoved it back into my waistband. I also operate the trigger from the outisde. I was finally able to do it but it was extremely difficult. Eventually what worked was - placing my thumb along the backstrap of the pistol and pushing my index finger through my jeans and into the trigger guard (finger outside pants, gun inside, denim wrapped finger in trigger guard). It took A LOT of work. It can be done. Keep in mind - this was a G23 with a 3.5# connector, polished surfaces (the "25 cent trigger job") and the "second hole" mod in the trigger bar to reduce take up. It still required intention and effort to drop that striker. YMMV.

OP =

like others say, kinda depends how big the knife is and how fast you think you're gonna need it. I like IWB 3:30 OR just open carry vertically at 3:00 with a little drop. I notice you say you don't have a carry gun yet. I absolutely love fixed blades BUT....... once you start carrying a pistol, a spare mag, a flashlight, etc you might find folders can be REALLY handy. The more gear I started carrying, the less I seemed to lug a FB.
 
Trailer_Ape said:
I carry appendix. I have for about 26 years now. I am sure I will be having the whole - shirt tail in the trigger guard catastrophe any day now. or maybe not. I actually tried to get my weapon to dry fire in my pants (after clearing it multiple times). Did the experiment WITHOUT a holster (the way I carried for YEARS). I fed my shirt tail through the trigger guard, shoved it back into my waistband. I also operate the trigger from the outisde. I was finally able to do it but it was extremely difficult. Eventually what worked was - placing my thumb along the backstrap of the pistol and pushing my index finger through my jeans and into the trigger guard (finger outside pants, gun inside, denim wrapped finger in trigger guard). It took A LOT of work. It can be done. Keep in mind - this was a G23 with a 3.5# connector, polished surfaces (the "25 cent trigger job") and the "second hole" mod in the trigger bar to reduce take up. It still required intention and effort to drop that striker. YMMV.

OP =

like others say, kinda depends how big the knife is and how fast you think you're gonna need it. I like IWB 3:30 OR just open carry vertically at 3:00 with a little drop. I notice you say you don't have a carry gun yet. I absolutely love fixed blades BUT....... once you start carrying a pistol, a spare mag, a flashlight, etc you might find folders can be REALLY handy. The more gear I started carrying, the less I seemed to lug a FB.
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I am one of those crossover gun guys and knife guys. It is amazing what scenarios we can come up with in our head. I carry appendix too. It always amazes me that a group of people that spend so much time defending their right to carry by citing (real and accurate) data on how few concealed carriers are implicated in violent crime will, in the same breath, talk about the dangers of appendix carry without evidence. Everyone has heard the horror stories but there is no evidence to suggest that out of the millions of people that carry that way every day every year for multiple years that shooting oneself while carrying this way is anymore likely than winning the lottery or getting struck by lightning. Carry on.

When it comes to a fixie, I will carry on my left side around the 8-7 o'clock. The gun in the front usually prevents any discussion from a knife up there and vertical carry of a blade would kind of throw off the point of concealing a gun so I go scout carry.
 
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