The problem is he already gave really good reasons through his own experience to not have faith in them. He wants us to tell him his experiences are wrong based on our experiences. Sort of a strange thing if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is correct. I mean talking about the gerber of old is one thing, but the current stuff from overseas wouldn't get me to open my wallet and I have limited experience with their US stuff. Perhaps folks can chime in on the stuff Rev listed. Then we can talk Material, Manufacture quality, Fit/Finish, and Price. That seems like a worth while discussion rather than "I've been disappointed by gerber for reasons X, Y, and Z. Persuade me why I'm wrong! No hating on Gerber though. 1, 2, 3, GO!"