Poll: you can only have four knives......

Chris Reeve Project 1 $300
Benchmade 710sbt Axis-Lock $100
Victorinox Swiss-Tool $070
Victorinox Pioneer, Red $020
TOTAL $490
Pretty good, huh?

The Reeve Project 1 is the perfect knife for anything outdoors related. The entire design is more like a perfected version of the Ka Bar then anything else. I love the Project 1, it totally kicks ass.

The Benchmade Axis-Lock 710sbt will suit me best for anything related to everyday activities that require sharpness. It isn't the best utility design, and it isn't the best fighting knife... But somewhere in between.

The Victorinox Swiss-Tool is far better then the Wave, in my opinion anyway. It is stronger, has better wuality tools, and lends itself better for what I use it for. I have used mine everyday since I got it like a year and a half ago, and it is still functioning perfectly.

I really love the Pioneer, it is the best knife to carry on your person no matter what you are doing. Nice sized utility blade, and very non-threatening. A great knife and a great value.

I have ten dollars left over, that should cover shipping...

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"Griffon" is the only guy up there so far who has noticed that he'll need a knife for food preparation, but then he went along with the unspoken assumption that the limit of four knives doesn't include knives stored within several meters from a kitchen sink.

Since kitchen knives are the most popular "fighting" knives in America in actual court cases, I think the knife limit includes kitchen knives.

Now I assume that carrots or a roast would yield to a Busse Battle Mistress or a Chris Reeve Project One, but I don't hear of too many professional chefs using such things.

I suspect that with this meshugeneh four knife rule, I would want to let non-knives do anything that a non-knife can do well, to save slots in my four knife allocation. Chopping, for instance, would be done with a hatchet, which is not, strictly speaking, a knife, and I'd have a saw to do saw duty. Screwing I'd do with screwdrivers, gripping with pliers, and maybe one of those bladeless combination tools. I might consider the forthcoming Spyderench, since it promises to come with a serious blade.

There would be some compromises to make.

I want a big fixed blade and a little fixed blade. Both should be useful for food preparation, and at least one of them should be useful in the woods. I want a knife with a rather aggressive edge that I can reach for quickly, and society might dictate that that should be a folder. And I want something small and handy and capable of precision cutting.

So . . . I haven't settled on make and model yet, but I think, a bit after midnight my time, that I want:

1. An 8" chef's knife - good steel, not mystery steel. I might have to go out to my workshop and make this and/or #2, to keep costs inside the limit, unless Fallkniven or somebody comes up with something in VG10. It should have a sheath and be heavy enough stock to do light Bowie knife duty. For heavy chopping, I want an axe or a hatchet, and for fighting I want a gun, or at least a spear.

2. A 4" puukko or puukko equivalent, possibly in carbon steel. That would double as a paring knife. That could be anything from a custom job in Talonite to a $10 Frosts of Sweden 840, depending on how much I was spending on the other knives. A Fallkniven F1 would also be a contender here, if outdoor uses outweighed paring knife duty.

3. A "full size" one-hand sport-utility folder with a serrated blade. The Spyderco Military might fill that slot.

4. A smaller folder - 2 1/2" to 3", plain edge, with a point capable of doing very precise work. Maybe there'd be room for that William Henry Lancet in carbon fiber, if I put some time and sweat into making the fixed blades.


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[This message has been edited by James Mattis (edited 05 September 1999).]
 
Another thought . . .

In this peculiar scenario, The Wife is also entitled to four knives. That gives us couples more versatility.
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Eight knives between us . . . Requires consultation, of course, and "his and hers" Sebenzas would squeeze the $1,000 overall limit. We'd need a one hand folder for each of us, of course, but dividing up the kitchen allotment might leave room for some sort of "heavy duty" outdoor sort of knife.

I'd be tempted to allocate the most "pride of ownership" money into a couple of kitchen knives, because those would be the lifetime investments that get the heaviest use.

And another thought: I don't think I saw any mention of either a traditional multi-blade pocket knife like a "stockman" or the forthcoming Spyderco standard-size Dyad. A.G. Russell and Queen now advertise traditional patterns with a couple or three blades in ATS34. That would seem to be one way to get the most cutting options into an arbitrarily limited number of knives.


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Ptpalpha:

There is a slight problem with your question...whether these four knives will be our only knives-in the wilderness with no signs of civilization, or exactly in our present lives as we live them...so I will give two lists, the first more wilderness survival oriented, and the latter more rural life oriented....:

Survival--

--Gerber Camp Axe (and they have a lifetime guarentee!)
--Busse Battle Mistress (I might need something like a machete...)
--A seven inch bladed short sword for, uh, pigsticking, just in case
--Simonick Talonite Ceton

Rural life--

--Leatherman Wave (it has a lot of tools)
--REKAT Talonite Carnavour (very strong)
--WHK T10-CF (for detailed work)
--and a nice custom-made partially serrated steak knife with a Kydex sheath and maybe a Nitonol blade
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Oh yeah, and both lists fall under $500 because I would have bought them off the auctions
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In this peculiar scenario, The Wife is also entitled to four knives. That gives us couples more versatility.
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<EM style="color: maroon; font-decoration: none; font-weight: bolder;">That</EM> is one of the reasons I don't think kitchen knives can be included in this sort of thing and still get meaningful answers. And if you include them, you should include the knives you eat with, meaning four guests and you can't manage under the limit no matter what, and some of use thinks there should be special ones for fish. (Guests don't normally have to bring their own utensils, do they?) And what about the butter knife? Of course it may be made of wood, but it's still called a knife, isn't it?

I see the kitchen knifes as belonging to the household, just like those for laying carpets or putting up wallpaper. But I do consider my bonsai knives as "mine", but most of what I want to do the Starmate can handle, the rest I've got other tools for.

If you can start sharing knives like this, it's like "My brother can borrow my khukri if I can borrow his Trailmaster" etc, so I interpret the context as meaning knives for personal use only.

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First off, a large, indestructible, fixed blade, to get any really big jobs out of the way: Busse Basic #7 ($218).

Second, a large folder, to really do most everything; daily carry, utility tasks, even food prep (if I don't have a slot for a small fixed blade). Current favorite: Spyderco Starmate ($100), plain edge.

Third, a smaller folder to handle more delicate cutting tasks, and social situations that might preclude the large folder (including being airport friendly): Spyderco Calypso Jr. ($70), plain edge -- if a couple hundred extra dollars magically appeared, I'd upgrade this to a Small Sebenza ($290).

Fourth, a good multitool: Victorinox Swisstool ($70) -- that is, if this must fall under the category of knives; I'd be happier if this added scissors and had no blades, and didn't take up one of my four slots.

If I had a fifth slot, or didn't have to fill the fourth with a multitool, then I'd add a small fixed blade: Fallkniven F1 ($90) -- if more magic money fell from the sky, I'd choose a Busse Mean Street ($217) instead, because the handle feels so good, and because it's about as indestructible as a knife can be.

In summary:
#1 Busse Basic #7 ($218)
#2 Spyderco Starmate ($100)
#3 Spyderco Calypso Jr. ($70)
#4 Victorinox Swisstool ($70)
== $458 total -- $42 left over

(Prices surfed from Knifecenter, except Busse: from ad in Blade 6/99)
 
If I could only have four knifes, I would only need one, because---If I could only have four, I would take the one and slit my wrists!
 
good answers, all! Actually, my original intention really didn't include kitchen knives, and the setting was current reality. Your knife "collection" could only consist of 4 pieces, total purchase price not to exceed $500.00. The only muddy point is multi-tools, and I'll leave that up to you. This is actually a sneaky way to re-visit the "most bang for your buck" thread which gave me some great ideas!!
-Paul
 
David Boye Basic III for food preperation and hunting. You can wrap the tang with something, and the Basic III becomes a good knife...$75.

Black Cloud Knives Y2K Camp Knife, basicly a 10" camp bowie with an attitude...about $400.

Or...

Mad Dog Arizona Hunter, preferably in 3/16" stock, for food prep - field dressing to tableware...$350.

Wicked Knife Company RTAK...$150

Oooo, I like that combo.

Or...

David Boye 4" drop-point hunter...about $250.

Rob Criswell 18" Wakizashi...about $150.

That works too.

Just can't seem to find a four knife combo that I would take over my two blade combos in that price range.

Harv
 
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