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Poor outlook for Canadian knife enthusiasts

Discussion in 'Knife Laws' started by duramaximos, Jan 9, 2018.

  1. P2P

    P2P Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 24, 2010
    Give them an inch they'll take a mile. In the case that they’re unsure on the legality of said “flick knife” they’ll just confiscate it anyway.

    Rarely do I find it suitable to give people in this sector the benefit of the doubt. I feel the general frustrated reaction is justified.
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  2. Dair


    Mar 14, 2017
    Oh, the dangers of a little flipping folder!
    Good thing i EDC a 12 inch combat knife, wouldn't wanna carry anything dangerous or illegal!
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  3. tyyreaun

    tyyreaun Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 26, 2017
    FTA: "it includes knives that require some preliminary or simultaneous minimal manipulation of either a flipper or other non-edged parts of the blade."

    Solution: sharpen the flipper tab before shipping the knife to Canada, then dull it after it arrives :)
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  4. AntCaps

    AntCaps Gold Member Gold Member

    May 6, 2009
    im so glad i live 15 minutes from the border and that as far as i know dogs cant be trained to smell knives.
    Switchblade_renegade, Dair and Sosa like this.
  5. chank


    Dec 25, 2015
    having not been aware of this ruling until last night when it was too late, i goofed everything up by impulsively ordering a massive, centrifugal, automatic prohibited gravity weapon from a well known dealer located in mesa AZ on sunday night. (one of them skinny XM-24's for those curious).

    it got picked up in AZ at 4:36 pm monday, arrived at the international shipment release at vancouver airport at 8:17 this morning (tuesday), and was at the fedex facility in burnaby at 9:36 am... given it's a 30 to 45 min drive from YVR to north burnaby traffic depending, i estimate that it got held up in customs for all of 35 to 50 mins.

    flips like a champ right out the box! no pivot loosening or assembly required
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  6. plue


    Oct 3, 2012
    This ruling is ridiculous. These clowns waste my tax dollars sitting around and coming up with these "ideas". So frustrating.
  7. gadgetgeek


    May 19, 2007
    They have an impossible mission statement, so they have to get a win wherever they can. No one looks hard a how they get the stats, just that they do, so if the bubble has to get bigger so they can stop more weapons, then they will. I'm sure the CBSA has some very competent officers that work there, but its just too big of a job, and the upper-office doesn't care about being effective, they care about looking good.
  8. Halador


    Jul 6, 2013
    As of now it would appear that despite the verdict, there will be no serious impact to policy change as it says that the decision has no regulatory impact. Unless I am misunderstanding something, that may mean it isn't actually as bad as it seems. https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/cn-ad/menu-eng.html
  9. eon blue apocalypse

    eon blue apocalypse

    Apr 11, 2015
    Our (Canadian) government and bureaucracy so screwed up, I don't think they could un-eff themselves even if that's all they tried to do for the next 20 months.

    I guess from now on its a multi-hour drive to the US so I can disassemble my knives and ship them in separate packages (blade in one, handle in the other). They can't flip a blade by itself, or know what kind of handle it's going into; although I wouldn't put it past those inflamed orifices in charge of the CBSA - they'll probably still try to do it.
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  10. lambman5


    Nov 25, 2014
    What knife is this and where can I get one? It looks like a Grohmann knife. I've always wanted one. I live in Alberta so shipping within the country shouldn't be too big of an issue for these I imagine.
  11. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel

    Feb 11, 2016
    It's a Grohmann R340S mini Russel lockback.
    This was a gift from a forum member so I don't know where to get one besides the Grohmann website.
    You'll just have to search Canadian retailers who offer it.

    This is one of the most comfortable folding knives I've ever held, at least as far as knives that are contoured for grip ( meaning not straight and neutral ) because my hands are very particular about ergonomics and normally prefer a very neutral handle without much contouring.

    I've handed this knife to 5 or 6 different people so far, and their instant reaction was " WOW " .they need not say more because their tone and look on their face says it all.
    It's just perfectly designed to fit the hand so universally, and it instantly connects when you hold it.
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  12. lambman5


    Nov 25, 2014
    Thank you for responding! Ive always wanted a Grohmann. This is all the more reason to get one.
  13. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    2. In accordance with subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code and the CITT's recent decision in T. LaPlante, the CBSA resolves that centrifugal knives will be classified as prohibited weapons if the following conditions are met:

    1. a knife has a blade that opens by centrifugal force, when the blade is released from the handle into the fully ejected and locked position with a simple and brisk outwardly flick of the wrist; and
    2. it includes knives that require some preliminary or simultaneous minimal manipulation of either a flipper or other non-edged parts of the blade.
  14. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel

    Feb 11, 2016
    I don't think you'll regret it.

    For what it's worth their website says the stainless they use is German 4110 with a 56-58rc, I've never heard of it but liked the performance of my knife.
    Seems harder than a standard 440a, and at least on par with Bucks 420hc.
    I had no clue what the steel was until just looking it up, but I knew I was happy with whatever it was.

    If I'm happy with how a knife performs then Its all good, I don't care what the steel is.
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2018
  15. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    Which article is it on that page you linked. There are like a hundred articles on the link you provided.

    There have been so many times now I have seen declarations like this on here and then it turns out there is no change.
  16. Switchblade_renegade

    Switchblade_renegade Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 20, 2012
    It's total BS! So the CBSA will now seize knives that are also sold legally in Canadian stores! How does that make any sense?!!!
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  17. eon blue apocalypse

    eon blue apocalypse

    Apr 11, 2015
    It doesn't make sense; but since when has our government, especially the current one, ever made any sense?
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  18. Switchblade_renegade

    Switchblade_renegade Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 20, 2012
    Hahaha got me there!!!! Truth!!!
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  19. Halador


    Jul 6, 2013
    The one about which I'm talking is 18.01
    It's the one regarding centrifugal knives.
  20. Halador


    Jul 6, 2013
    I put this in another thread and thought it would do well here:

    I very strongly recommend getting in touch with your MP and sending a complaint email to the CBSA and those governing bodies.

    If we let them know that we are unhappy, and make a logical point about how these new changes are a problem, we may be able to make a positive difference.

    When in doubt, use the (reasonable) torch and pitchfork method.
    It seems to be the only thing the government understands.

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