Possum out there!

I'm not religious, so I have no problems with killing and using animals for meat and fur. As long as the animal isn't threatened or endangered, not tortured, killed quickly, etc. I can't wait to start hunting for mulies and elk! :cool:

I lift (well try to... :grumpy: ) and the different meats gives me the proteins and stuff that I need to bulk up and it tastes guuuud!
 
Originally posted by Semper Fi
Vegans=tree huggers, in my book.

As for coons, I kill everyone I can find. And I find alot. Their hides aren't worth much anymore so not many people trap them now. But the main problem I have with them is they are destructive. Especially turkey nests. Wild turkeys are a far more valuable resource, IMHO, than raccoons. Turkeys nest on the ground and their eggs are easy prey for coons.

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I'm neither Vegan nor tree hugger, but it is hard for me to understand how you can logically make this judgement. Do you define a hawk that takes a rabbit, to feed her family as "destructive"? How 'bout a mountain lion taking a deer? Is that "destructive"? How is that different from a racoon eating wild turkey eggs?

I live in Idaho, and some here feel that livestock and elk herds are a far more valuable resource than the, recently, reintroduced wolf population. I don't agree with them either. Coons were eating turkey eggs long before we came along with artifical values as to which wild animals are more "valuable" than others. From my personal standpoint, wild turkeys have no value as a resource at all. That doesn't mean I would kill every one I could find. My 2 cents. YMMV
 
Originally posted by Howard Wallace
...Perhaps some day you will have insight as to how all life, even plants, and all matter, are integrated into the web.

On the other hand, perhaps some day I'll realize I'm full of $#!^.
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Of course you are correct Howard. All life is interconnected and if we go beyond that, all matter is interconnected, and beyond that all energy is one.

But rules of right living operate many levels below that. Can you think of any spiritual teaching that claims if you don't make it off the wheel in this carnation that you might come back as a tomato or a zuchinni?

As to the second point, I have long been aware that you, me, and everyone else is full of it. And it doesn't make a bit of difference. It's just an example of the many forms that "The Truth" can take.
 
Originally posted by Semper Fi


As for coons, I kill everyone I can find...coyotes, wild dogs, and feral cats are in the same boat...
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If you were really concerned with preserving any species of animal you should be killing real estate developers instead of helpless animals.
 
Kill real estate people??? "Mouse is to pig, as pig is to boy."? right? :rolleyes: :mad:


I'm a member of PETA!!!!!
























People Eating Tasty Animals! :cool:

Not the other EVIL (!!!!!) ones Like, Perverts Eagerly Touching Animals :eek: or People for Ethical Treatment of Animals. :barf:

Poor yummy animals! :(

Defenseless?! :barf:

Do you know how severely feral felines and other introduced pests mess up the place? Think of the ground birds and animals that would be taken by your "defenseless" friends the cats alone!

What kind of nature loving person are you, to let feral pests ruin the place?!

Raccoons are EVERYWHERE, even in cities! Wild turkeys are MUCH rarer. Killing excess/bothersome raccoons and other animals doesn't hurt anyone, and will even help the turkeys in some places! Have you ever thought of the poor turkeys?!! yumm.. ~_~

I'm out!! Gonna print out pictures of Bambi and feral PEWSHAES and WAEHD DAEWGS to shoot with my pellet guns! :cool:
 
Possums are fairly helpless marsupials with the incredible bad luck of looking just like giant rats.
If they looked cuter, like koalas, people's first reaction wouldn't be to bash them over the head or shoot them (though I've seen some tempting recipes that made me curious what they taste like); and if they were as able to protect themselves as racoons or even skunks, the thought of going after one with a stick or tongs wouldn't even enter people's minds.

The females carrying a bunch of babies on their backs are kinda cute, actually.
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I've eaten a few 'possums in my time until I found out some of the crap They Eat!!!!
Saw a several day old cow once that seemed to have gremlins, but it was several 'possums crawling around inside instead.
Last one I killed had a strange odor.:barf: My cuz's pit bulls wouldn't even eat it and they would eat anything, raw or not!!!!:barf:

But when I was eating them I needed them to help fill the larder. Didn't waste no ammo on them either, just caught 'em at night and threw them in the trunk.
It's interesting to try and pull out half a dozen 'possums from a 1953 Ford trunk without getting bit.:rolleyes: ;) :D
After they were pulled from the trunk they were tied up head down on the clothesline and had their little throats cut to bleed out.
Did snappin' turtles the same way, except tied them to a tree.
There's a trick to cleaning snappers and well worth the trouble as they make some mighty fine eatin'!!!!:D

I gave up hunting a few years back, but have never turned down any meat anyone wanted to share.
If I'm able this year I'm gonna start hunting again. Once again need the meat to help fill the larder.:D
Besides, wild game is better for you than the packaged meats outta the store, with the exception of Buffalo or organically farm raised game.:D
 
Originally posted by ichor
I'm neither Vegan nor tree hugger, but it is hard for me to understand how you can logically make this judgement. Do you define a hawk that takes a rabbit, to feed her family as "destructive"? How 'bout a mountain lion taking a deer? Is that "destructive"? How is that different from a racoon eating wild turkey eggs?

I live in Idaho, and some here feel that livestock and elk herds are a far more valuable resource than the, recently, reintroduced wolf population. I don't agree with them either. Coons were eating turkey eggs long before we came along with artifical values as to which wild animals are more "valuable" than others. From my personal standpoint, wild turkeys have no value as a resource at all. That doesn't mean I would kill every one I could find. My 2 cents. YMMV
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Using your logic I suppose rats in your house are OK. They are just trying to feed their young.

The restoration of the wild turkey in North America is one of the great wildlife successes of this past century. If you kill a wild turkey out of season in Kaintuck it is a $500 fine plus cost of the turkey ($1,000 or so), loss of your hunting license, your gun and your vehicle if it was involved. As for killing a coon, who cares? I'd say the turkey is more valuable. :p
 
Originally posted by Ben Arown-Awile
If you were really concerned with preserving any species of animal you should be killing real estate developers instead of helpless animals.
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Last I looked, killing real estate developers was classified as murder. I would have expected better advice from a certified tree hugger or is it vegan? :p
 
Originally posted by Semper Fi
Using your logic I suppose rats in your house are OK. They are just trying to feed their young.

The restoration of the wild turkey in North America is one of the great wildlife successes of this past century. If you kill a wild turkey out of season in Kaintuck it is a $500 fine plus cost of the turkey ($1,000 or so), loss of your hunting license, your gun and your vehicle if it was involved. As for killing a coon, who cares? I'd say the turkey is more valuable. :p
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Well, it's painfully obvious that you are not using my logic at all (if any). Why do you want to get ludicrous about it? *Of course* rats are not OK in the house. What a ridiculous statement. Or racoons, or any other wild animals including the wolves that I love. That doesn't mean I should go out and hunt them down. Why are you getting so confrontational? I thought this forum was for reasonable discussion and debate.

Because some politicians in "Kaintuck" have decided that they want to make killing wild turkeys a fineable offense cuts no ice with me. Politicians make stupid, misguided laws every damn day of our lives. I'm not saying that this turkey law is good or bad, but using the fact that it's "against the law" is a miserable excuse for an arguement.

It's not surprising that no one in Kentucky (I think that's the proper name of the state we're talking about) cares about killing a worthless coon since various forms of lower social strata have been killing them for sport for a couple of hundred years, accompanied by the music of baying hounds and whiskey around the campfire. (I think they got'em tree'd, Jesse Lee. Get the guns. Let's go shoot'em out of the tree). Great sport.

"The restoration of the wild turkey in North America is one of the great wildlife successes of this past century."

Great. We've managed to save some of dumbest animals alive (although tasty if prepared properly) while slaughtering worthless "coons" which are mostly smarter than your dog or cat (but, really, for civilized people, not all that good to eat). Now that's something to be proud of. I think I'll move to "Kaintuck" just to bask in this ethereal atmosphere.



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Just two comments. Neither of which I should probably make.

First off just to prove there's a simpsons quote for every occasion:

"I'm a fifth level vegan. I don't eat anything that casts a shadow."

My second comment will be a broad statement like other ones here that is sure to annoy someone.

I find it interesting when people cry for saving nature when humans are doing something. Hell, aren't we part of nature? If a Beaver can block up a stream/river and very often put animals out of a habitat downstream, how is that any different then us doing the same thing? How come one is nature and the other is somehow inherently evil?

OK, rant mode off. SOmeone pass me a mousepad and some sandpaper for my khuk. :)
 
I dunno, Ive always been of the opinion, if we live in a world where many people still get treated worse than many farm livestock (and Im talking them big industrial farms that really tick off tree huggers) and few people say or do anything about it, whats the logic of suddenly caring about rodents (that are vastly abundent hence the definition of them as rodents)? I guess if raccoons could sew up some nikes, dig up diamonds, sell cocaine, or work in a brothel in Amsterdam itd be alright then to slaughter them at will. Geez, bambi was too darn popular a movie. Animals kill animals as well. And quite more gruesumely than those that get shot with a rifle, or even beat with a baseball bat. Should we go out and criticize them wolves for eating raccoons without properly anesthesizing them first. Its one thing to be against wonton cruelty to animals, but geez lets get some perspective here.
 
Tom Brown had a friend who, after a visit to a slaughterhouse, declared his intention of no longer eating meat. Tom told him, The plants you eat scream as loudly, if you could hear them.

Friday evening I will be traveling well over 500 miles to be able to attend the wedding of a squadmate and good friend. This 18yr old man has signed away 6 years of his life to Uncle Sam, and keeps one of the best attitudes I've seen in my company. I like CJ as a friend and respect him as a worthwhile individual and soldier. He enjoys hunting with dogs, coons and bears, especially. I'm sorry, what exactly were you saying about this man who will be in harm's way in less than a year? With a ****** unit with horrible morale?

Possums can be hard to kill. Several years ago I was in a standoff with one, with a 9mm carbine. I told myself he wasn't hurting me...then he growled. :D I reckon my "threat display" was more persuasive.

I am a part of the system. I eat of this earth, and fertilize it. I gladly accept my place in the grand circle of life, knowing that large dangerous animals will try to eat me, as I will try to eat them, if my belly needs filling. If I come back as a deer, I'm fine with that, too. I like tofu a lot, but I don't really want to fill my body with an Estrogen imitator.

John

(edited to correct mispelling and Freudian slips) ;)
 
Originally posted by Spectre
I gladly accept my place in the grand circle of life.
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It's the ciiiircleeeeeee . . . . the circle of liiiiiiiiiife!

I'm just glad we eat the antelope rather than the antelope eating us.
 
Originally posted by Spectre
Tom Brown had a friend who, after a visit to a slaughterhouse, declared his intention of no longer eating me.
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Whoooo...I bet that was a relief!

;)

eh...my brother-in-law's at Lewis, with the Strykers. If you ever run into SGT Lingo, tell him "Aloha" for me.

I don't kill anything unless it threatens me/mine. Even insects; I'll round 'em up and take 'em outside if I can, excluding the rampantly biting ones like skeeters and them big Hawaiian centipedes. I'll happily kill for food, though.
 
Originally posted by Semper Fi
I would have expected better advice from a certified tree hugger... :p
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I have heard that term before, but to be honest, I really don't know what it means as I don't associate with anyone who uses it. But I probably wouldn't qualify as one because the only time I hug trees is when I carry in an arm load of firewood.

However, I would rather be surrounded by a thousand trees than a thousand people any day.
 
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