posting intimidation factors

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I don't know about other people, but I feel there is a new factor in posting intimidation now. In addition to being flamed or ridiculed. Now there is the "nobody likes me everybody hates me (read ignores me) I'm going to the garden to eat worms" factor. This has been enhanced by the new "Views" feature. When your thread has 1 answer and 250 views it may make the more faintharted a bit hesitant about posting next time.
Yes yes I know the "you gotta have thick skin to stick your neck out here kid" macho stuff. But this attitude altouh it certainly will scare away some trolls also keeps innovative / unconventional people from posting unconventional interesting stuff. It leads to a very limited forum with a strong degree of self censorship, wich in turn leads to a duller forum, where much of the same stuff gets put up again and again, wich leads to people getting bored and jumping of the wagon.
I for instance have some info wich could save a lot of people here a bit of money but I'm unwilling to post it for the reasons stated above.
any toughts ? :confused:
 
Aside from the fear of being "flamed," I don't quite understand fear of being "rejected" or the attending need for validation that seem to be happening recently. My participation in the forums is predicated on getting information and sharing what little I know. Got something to say or ask, just do it. Just don't flame. And drop the angst about, "Oh, no one's paying attention to me..." I think if someone is seeking so sort of affirmation or validation of one's worth, they really should do that in their real life rather than through here in the forums.

Just my thought and reaction to some of stuff being posted.
 
Post a way for me to save a bit of money, and I'll view it:p
I might even respond!
I don't see what the fuss is about. Some kind of stroke-the-ego thing when someone gets lots of replies??? If you post an opinion or view, and get no flames or responses, assume that 11,000 people agree with you, and be happy:)
I can see were it would be very frustrating for a newbie with questions that go unanswered, but life is full of frustrations, and that would seem to be a minor one.
I posted a question about a knife in an article from several years ago, and got several responses. None of them led me to what I was looking for, but I did think it was very nice of people to take the time and effort to try and help.
I do think people should be more thick-skinned, though. We're on the internet, after all.
 
"I have a secret, but I'm not telling you what it is."

For crying out loud -- if you're willing to brave the knee-quaking fear of posting to complain about the terrible, gut-wrenching terror of not getting sufficient replies to make you feel like a special human being, why on earth wouldn't you simply post this information that you believe to be so valuable?

We're going to have to institute a new "I'm OK, You're OK" forum, if this keeps up.
 
Yep those were about the reactions I expected. Wich kind of proves my point . Basically you are saying this forum is only for the tough bastards who are ready to take anything they can trow at you. Well what I'm trying to say is there are some people out there with some good things to say who won't say it.
BTW what I was going to say was : use a pyramid to sharpen your razor blades it works ( or at least it has worked fine for me for a couple of years) I'm sure you can find stuff on the net about it.
 
Ah, you have failed Razor's skin-thickness-test, which he was nice enough to administer free of charge. So much for generosity:rolleyes:
DM, you sure do read alot into a little. If you want to get flamed, telling people what they're actually saying is (insert your own view here) is a good way to get there. There's plenty of sarcasm and cynicism around-no need to ask for it.
 
Ah, you have failed Razor's skin-thickness-test, which he was nice enough to administer free of charge. So much for generosity.
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There's a patent on that test, I'll have you know. :D The first think you have to do is sharpen and flame-harden a big stick...

Yep those were about the reactions I expected. Wich kind of proves my point . Basically you are saying this forum is only for the tough bastards who are ready to take anything they can trow at you.
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Look, buddy, this is simply a fact of jumping in on a public forum of this kind. There are plenty of nice folks here, and plenty of trolls and jerks. If you want to post what you think and only hear happy, huggy, "We love you, man" replies, it's not going to happen.

You don't have to be a "tough bastard" to post here -- but you've got to be ego-formed enough not to go to pieces when you don't get replies, or you -- gasp! -- receive criticism.

Well what I'm trying to say is there are some people out there with some good things to say who won't say it. BTW what I was going to say was : use a pyramid to sharpen your razor blades it works ( or at least it has worked fine for me for a couple of years) I'm sure you can find stuff on the net about it.
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THAT little piece of New Age hokum was your vital piece of knife advice? You have GOT to be kidding me.

You forgot to tell us that the pyramid has to be properly aligned with the North-South axis, or with Mercury, or whatever else. This is an old, old piece of Mystic silliness, and has utterly no grounding in reality. This revelation is about as stunning as telling the world that one should wait half an hour after eating to go swimming, or that it's best to throw salt over your shoulder to appease the evil spirits attracted after tipping over the shaker.

Quick, somebody contact Joe Talmadge so we can have this vital piece of esoterica added to the Sharpening FAQ.
 
Thank you razor yu have again confirmed just what I was saying in the first post. Glad to have your positive reply.......
 
Have you heard of the term, "self-fulfilling prophesy?"

Here's a hint; I'll post the following:

"Why are you guys such jerks when I have such incredible information to offer?"

I'll then, predictably, get replies along the lines of:

"If you think we're jerks, sit on it, troll."
"Good riddance, jerk-face!"
"What incredible information?"

Stung by having been told I'm a jerk-face, and exhorted to "sit on it," will then reply:

"That's just what I expected you jerks to say. I bet you didn't know the patented Cutco serrations are more powerful than any other serration on the market, and Cutco knives are made of the best steel known to man."

I will then receive a variety of critical replies, and continue to complain that everyone is very, very mean to me. This process is what we call a self-fulfilling prophesy.
 
I was actually trying to point out something I seem to have observed here on the forums. For instance the first time I found this place I asked a question about multitools and got loads of really helpfull replies. Now after having been here for a few months things seem to me to have degenerated into a lot of pissing contests and bashing of peoples opinions. This was part of what I was trying to say. I was making a comment on the state of affairs as I see them. Not about my own threads as I haven't posted that many, just what I see as a general trend.
 
My skin is thick and I've learned enough about myself to have my ego under control most of the time so fire away if you must.

This forum is global. People from all over the world post to it. Different cultures communicate in different ways and interpret communications differently.

When you respond to a post, take a sec and see where the poster comes from. Don't assume that "in your face" American style communications are appropriate for everyone. Show them the same courtesy you would if you were in their country.

In addition, many posters aren't native speakers of English and have a natural fear that they may be posting something that isn't correct from a language aspect.

If some one wants to convince me that keeping razors under a pyramid sharpens them they are going to have to point me to some laboratory testing. However, it may be that in the local environmental conditions in Indonesia that keeping a razor blade under a pyramid reduces micro-corrosion on the edge and gives the user the perception that sharpness lasts longer.

If DM had posted his question as "Have any of you seen test results that definitvely prove or disprove the theories about keeping razors under pyramids keeping them sharp" then he would have gotten a lot of good responses in addition to having his balls handed to him.

I'm on these forums to get information and to give it when I have something to share. If we stifle new members from outside the USA, we're losing an opportunity to learn more about them, their culture, and their knives.

That's my $ 0.02

Fire away!
 
Originally posted by DM
I was actually trying to point out something I seem to have observed here on the forums. For instance the first time I found this place I asked a question about multitools and got loads of really helpfull replies. Now after having been here for a few months things seem to me to have degenerated into a lot of pissing contests and bashing of peoples opinions. This was part of what I was trying to say. I was making a comment on the state of affairs as I see them. Not about my own threads as I haven't posted that many, just what I see as a general trend.
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Don't you see the difference?

Post a question about multitools, and of course you'll get plenty of helpful replies.

Post complaining that people are too mean and you think it's unfair, and of course you're going to get negative replies.

I keep hearing -- periodically -- that, "Gosh, lately the forums are [insert criticism here]." Yet I've been here for three years, and these forums (unless you count software) have NEVER changed. The nature of discussions here are NO DIFFERENT than they ever were.

You want positive results, post positive offerings. (I still think the pyramid thing is ridiculous, but as has already been stated, there are ways to go about it that might not have drawn my fire.)
 
I keep hearing -- periodically -- that, "Gosh, lately the forums are [insert criticism here]." Yet I've been here for three years, and these forums (unless you count software) have NEVER changed. The nature of discussions here are NO DIFFERENT than they ever were.
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And that goes to my other point namely with the strong pressure brought to bear by people like you to conform to the "norm" of the forums they will be no different than before either, because no one dears to say something new !
 
BTW about the pyramids
I get an average of 40 shaves with a razorblade (gillette mach 2) by keeping it under the pyramid. After that what usually deteriorates is the white glider stuff. The blade is still in good servicable condition (does not scrape).
Before you dismiss something out of hand why don't you try it ? You might be surprised if you are not to afraid to try something NEW.
 
Originally posted by Joel Stave
Folks? Do we no longer recognize a Troll when we see it?
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excuse me I am a troll now for pointing out something you do not want to hear ? come on !
this is excactly my point about the whole situation the pressure to conform to the norms of this forum or else.....
 
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