problem with trade need your help

yiterp

yiterp

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i made a trade with a person in canada a month ago and have yet to receive the two knives i traded for.at first e-mail came back quick when i asked about the knives but now i'm not hearing anything back.i am starting to feel i'm not going to recieve anything and the knives i
sent in trade are gone.when i asked him he said he hasn't got his knives either.do you feel i should wait longer on this or should i
post this person for others to see.
 
This should always be the last resort. Post his name here when you feel that you have given this person every reasonable chance to make good on the trade. First you should email him and let him know that if he does not follow through on his end of the deal that you will post all pertinent information on the GB&U forum. See if that will get him going. If not, then I feel you have every right to warn others that this person may be someone that is not trustworthy.

If you do not get satisfaction and this person is anywhere near me, let me know. I will be glad to contact him for you.
 
A month?

Time to post.

i have doen deals with several of our northern brethren and they are always punctual and fair. A month without package and someone saying they have not received yours either? Time for this to come to light. It may behoove you to call customs to check if either package was confiscated, but the pair of them being so is unlikely.

If there is a fast reply here rather than the person disappearing, it is a good sign. I would also post in the trade/ sale forums a litle missive that this conversation is going on. If there is honest mistake, it will be cleared up. If not, it will be resolved likely elsewhere.
 
Hey Yit..

Shoot me over an e-mail with the persons name I'll see if I can gather any Intell on him..

ttyle

Eric...
 
i sent the person a e-mail yesterday stating if something wasn't done
i would be posting in GB&U all the detail of the trade and listing his
name and all info as a warning to others.within hours i recieved a re-
ply that he had just gotten the knives from me but was refusing to
recieve them at the post office because there was tax on the package.
isn't this always the case when someone recieves a package in canada
from someone in the states.he had told me when i send it to put value
at 200.00 and i did just that.he says the package is being sent back to me.and he asked me to return the package from him when it arrives,
i'm not sure it was ever coming anyway.
i then offered to resend the knives that are being sent back to me and show less value on the customs clip so he wouldn't be taxed so high using my money to resend them a second time. and he says he isn't
paying any kind of tax even if it is smaller on a trade.didn't he
expect to pay something in the first place with the package coming
from the us into canada.
yiterp
 
Hey Yiterp....

No, it's Not always the case with us Canadians refusing parcels from the US..

Please don't lump us all together...

The majority of us understand,and even expect to get Whacked with some type of tax...

Your guy may be new to this and not expected taxes on his parcel. I gues the $30.00 some dollars wasn't worth it to him to make this deal go through...

I've been hit many times with these amounts in taxes and have just eaten it...Some I get back,,some I don't...

It is your buddies responcibility to know this stuff,just like it would be yours if you got nailed with taxes on an incloming parcel..

You have to be willing to give and take a little both ways if you want deals like this to go through...

Yitrep,,next time Please keep this in mind and be prepared to make adjustments accordingly, and make sure both parties know that taxes do happen...

Any Canadain should know about the possibility of getting Reamed with taxes..

It's unfortunate this has happened..
If there was a way I could help I would..

ttyle

Eric...
 
i didn't mean all people from canada doing this just this
*******.i have done many deals with people in canada
and all have been great.
i still feel like when i recieve the package i sent him
back i should turn around and sent it right back to him.
i feel like i have been jerked around he's the one who
is getting every he wants.
 
If you send them back again he will just refuse to accept and return to you again. You will end up paying shipping four times so I would just take my knives back an see if his show up. If you receive his then you can begin to negotiate in a serious way. I buy lots of knives from guys in the USA and the tax we pay is know to all of us so just post his name so he can't give us another "black eye" Good Luck. Mike
 
Post his name. Telling about it doesn't help anybody unless we know who you're talking about.


Originally posted by knifeman7
...so I would just take my knives back an see if his show up. If you receive his then you can begin to negotiate in a serious way.
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WTH? How funny that you're worried about this other guy, while apparently having no ethics yourself. Giving yourself bad feedback-that's a new one.
 
My one cent opinion. A trade NEVER takes a MONTH!!!! And a trade is a trade. It MUST be a fair deal and Party A ships his trade to Party B and Party B ships his trade to Party A. Very basic, very simple. If A or B is not happy AFTER BOTH get their traded item, then they E-mail or call ( I always include my phone #) and A and B talk it out. But after a month, to come up with the excuse used is lame. Will the knife that was refused be returned in the EXACT same shape? And why should that person have to PAY shipping to return the Canadian's knife, assuming one was actually shipped. I say, POST his name. It would sure bother me to get burned by THIS GUY and find out SOMEONE KNEW his name!!! AND if I screwed someone in what should be a FAIR TRADE, I would expect to be hammered to hell RIGHT here on BF, where it SHOULD be posted in living color. This way, we all remain honest in our dealings as the penalty is PUBLIC RECOGNITION AS A SCAM-ER
wolf........:mad:
 
I am in full agreement with posting his name so he will not be able to give fellow Canadians another "black eye" and I must admit I dont understand Owenm's comments as to my ethics. Mike
 
Hey Yiterp...

Ok,,first off,, What is the status of your knives ?

Since they were refused I'm going to assume that they are being sent back to you by Collect post!

I hope that is correct..

If so,,the ball is still in your court and the game in your favor...

This is Exactly what I would do...

Under the circumstances of refusing a parcel under those conditions, he Owes you ALL of the shipping money thus far...

This is what you say....


You have a choice to make. Either you send me a postal MO in the amount of (Insert total shipping) or you forfeit any ownership of the merchandise I have. You have 30 days to complete this transaction. If I receive the MO for shipping I will send you back (______).

Give the guy 30 days to send you the money,,if not keep his $hit.That's more than fair....I think...

At the very most his taxes and all of that would be $35.00CDN - $40.00CDN. The shipping he will pay you back for will be around the same..

It's either pay the taxes and get his knives or pay the shipping + and get his crap back..Either way he's gonna be out money..Tooooo Bad.

Theres absolutely No reason that you should be stuck paying shipping for this transaction, especially under the circumstances...

He told you to declare the knives for $200.00.He should have known there were taxes involved....

If he screws you around and you send him his $hit back,,just declare it worth $1000.00USD and let him figure it out...:)

As long as your blades are on the way home to you,,you've got it made in the shade....


ttyle

Eric...
 
OwenM, you're way off base about Knifeman7. He is a knife buyer,trader,seller, of the highest caliber. I think his message was misunderstood.
 
Hey Normark, be careful! You could have OwenM bad mouthing you as well for talking like that. It's about our ethics or something. Mike
 
Mike,
It sounds like your advising that he hold someone else's property as leverage in a deal. Regardless of the situation, that would be wrong. Then you could be viewed as the "bad guy", too. It's not worth sacrificing a good reputation over. Honor is everything on these trade forums, IMO.
If that is not what you meant, then I apologize for my sarcastic response.
 
Sorry Owen; I guess we both misunderstood My only effort was to help the poster out of an obvious mess. Thank You. Mike
 
This may well have been a misunderstanding of the way our customs system works. If so this Jimmy the Jet is not the brightest bulb on the tree. As has been stated, $35.00 would be the maximum that he would pay and that is if there is duty on the knives. If they were sent as being used, I do not think that there is any duty. Without duty he would have to pay less than $20.00. This sounds like a dodge to me.

When you get the knives back check to see if they were refused or if he shipped them back to you. If they were shipped back it probably means that he had them for a while and after you put the heat on, he decided that it wasn't worth trying to screw you. If it was refused then it is quite possible that what he said is true. If that is the case then just chalk this up as a bad experience and don't deal with Jimmy again. If he did not refuse shipping, but shipped them back to you himself, please let us know. I want to know if this guy is a slime ball or just a dope.
 
Right on KWM, and we are talking Canadian dollars on the $35 or $20 and that's a whole lot less than the like amount in US dollars so don't you American guys feel sorry for the "gentleman" Enough Said!!!
 
Yiterp, sounds like the advice I gave you worked out okay.

The import taxes nonsnese is horse puckey. He knew ahead of time. I figure that taxation is an ugly FACT of life and if you want to avoid them work for cash and pay in cash.

You got yours back? What did you get from him that is on the block for postage? (That is a joke fellas)\

Parker
 
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