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Problems with Duch Customs
- Thread starter Marcel54
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Sorry to hear that Marcel. Bad break. Sure hope the situation takes a turn for the better.
Have to keep my fingers crossed for the package I sent to China this morning.
Have to keep my fingers crossed for the package I sent to China this morning.
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Marcel, any updates?
Secondly, has your Hale dagger been shipped? That's even more worrisome.
Coop
Secondly, has your Hale dagger been shipped? That's even more worrisome.
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Roger, I'm a little after the fact with my sentiment, but since you've been more than generous with me I would be more than happy to smuggle knives across the border for you if ever need be. As a pretentious, egotistical American I see it as my responsibility to disregard the laws of other countries so as to prove my own superiority.
Marcel, I wish your border was within driving distance because I would be more than happy to extend the same courtesy to you. Seriously though, very poor circumstances to be caught in. I hope it turns out for the best.
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I'm still in limbo and Coop thanks for thinking about the Hale dagger. I didn't want to make things worse around here but for me they are. Don shipped the dagger Monday just before I got word about this problem. So yes the Hale is shipped and yes I think it will be extending my problem because this one arrived yesterday on Dutch soil but hasn't passed Customs as well until now
:barf::thumbdn:So this could be potentially a much bigger problem then it already was.
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Marcel, I hope you can get it worked out, this sucks!
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Theses kinds of problems are particularly troublesome as there's nothing anyone can do but await an outcome.
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Thanks Scott - I'll keep that in mind.
This is a seriously chilling situation for anyone that imports the vast majority of their custom knife purchases.
Marcel, I really hope it works out, somehow.Roger
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Marcel,
I'm really sorry to hear about this. When you go home from the Blade Show do you think you will be able to take knives home in person. Does it help being there in person to describe that these are pieces of art and not terrible weapons. You may have to do what some guys do a pick up your knives once a year and take them home in person. For example when I went to the middle east with my sword and knives I know they wouldn't have passed customs by themselves but with me there I just had to pay a duty.
The bottom line is some guy in customs just wants to take some nice knives home. I wish you luck Marcel.
This is what happens when our governments are allowed to make policy and take action at will. Here in the U.S. it's getting worse and worse. It's like with autos in the U.S. I can own a gun but I can't carry a switchblade. Both sides of our government are total idiots and our situation today bears the fruit.
I'm really sorry to hear about this. When you go home from the Blade Show do you think you will be able to take knives home in person. Does it help being there in person to describe that these are pieces of art and not terrible weapons. You may have to do what some guys do a pick up your knives once a year and take them home in person. For example when I went to the middle east with my sword and knives I know they wouldn't have passed customs by themselves but with me there I just had to pay a duty.
The bottom line is some guy in customs just wants to take some nice knives home. I wish you luck Marcel.
This is what happens when our governments are allowed to make policy and take action at will. Here in the U.S. it's getting worse and worse. It's like with autos in the U.S. I can own a gun but I can't carry a switchblade. Both sides of our government are total idiots and our situation today bears the fruit.
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Guys thanks for all the encouraging words. It helps (at least a little bit) to know that you'll keep your fingers crossed for me.
Roger, If this doesn't get resolved I'll be forced to reconcider the way I collect. There is no problem with EU based makers (that's one open economic union) but all non EU based acquisitions are a potential problem to happen if the circumstances don't change.
Josh, that hardly will make any difference because of the way our customs work. First there is the way I have to package the knives in my luggage and declaring them at US Customs (?). When I arrive home and I tell Dutch Customs that I have something to declare and I can't produce all the information (used materials like stuff from endangered species, price and so on) they want to have ...... they will confiscate it. If I can but they won't trust it ....... they seize it too. When they do believe me I have to pay at least 30% taxes and duties on the declared value straight up or they seize it anyway.
I keep you'll posted on any progress but that will be after the weekend because overhere especially civil servants:barf: don't work during weekends. So I have to bide my time for at least another 72 hours.
Marcel
Roger, If this doesn't get resolved I'll be forced to reconcider the way I collect. There is no problem with EU based makers (that's one open economic union) but all non EU based acquisitions are a potential problem to happen if the circumstances don't change.
Josh, that hardly will make any difference because of the way our customs work. First there is the way I have to package the knives in my luggage and declaring them at US Customs (?). When I arrive home and I tell Dutch Customs that I have something to declare and I can't produce all the information (used materials like stuff from endangered species, price and so on) they want to have ...... they will confiscate it. If I can but they won't trust it ....... they seize it too. When they do believe me I have to pay at least 30% taxes and duties on the declared value straight up or they seize it anyway.
I keep you'll posted on any progress but that will be after the weekend because overhere especially civil servants:barf: don't work during weekends. So I have to bide my time for at least another 72 hours.
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Josh,
I agree that politics normally are verboten on this subforum, but in this case it is vitally germane when knife/gun owners are under such fierce assault. Marcel felt this thread might be inappropriate here. I'll defer to the moderators, but I think not if the politics are focused solely on the question at hand because Marcel's nightmare is ours too. And, if this is to be more than kumbaya commiseration, it's prudent to ask why this is happening, what the future holds, and remedial actions to combat this unrelenting march against our rights.
My post was simply my personal cause/effect analysis of today's reality. The West has undergone complete transformation from states worshiping God to states rejecting God. By definition opposite world views yield opposite theologies, and clearly the anti-knives/guns/hunting movement emerged as a secular progressive tenant. As you well know, just a few years ago trapping was banned in Washington state via simple referendum vote by I-5 liberals. Why shouldn't we expect a referendum banning knife collecting from appearing on this November's ballot?
I have given the Christian view (or more properly one slice of it), and, of course, I could be full of feces, which is why I, myself, would truly love reading your atheistic counterpunch as to why the Dutch secular state has confiscated Marcel's property, whereas the Christian state did not, and why so many American liberals view hunting as murder and unceasingly come after my guns and knives, whereas the Christian state did not. While you are sharing, you might flesh out the roles of the NRA and the ACLU.
Don't be timid; I'm too old to be offended and too blessed to play victim and trundle out the bigot card.
ken
I agree that politics normally are verboten on this subforum, but in this case it is vitally germane when knife/gun owners are under such fierce assault. Marcel felt this thread might be inappropriate here. I'll defer to the moderators, but I think not if the politics are focused solely on the question at hand because Marcel's nightmare is ours too. And, if this is to be more than kumbaya commiseration, it's prudent to ask why this is happening, what the future holds, and remedial actions to combat this unrelenting march against our rights.
My post was simply my personal cause/effect analysis of today's reality. The West has undergone complete transformation from states worshiping God to states rejecting God. By definition opposite world views yield opposite theologies, and clearly the anti-knives/guns/hunting movement emerged as a secular progressive tenant. As you well know, just a few years ago trapping was banned in Washington state via simple referendum vote by I-5 liberals. Why shouldn't we expect a referendum banning knife collecting from appearing on this November's ballot?
I have given the Christian view (or more properly one slice of it), and, of course, I could be full of feces, which is why I, myself, would truly love reading your atheistic counterpunch as to why the Dutch secular state has confiscated Marcel's property, whereas the Christian state did not, and why so many American liberals view hunting as murder and unceasingly come after my guns and knives, whereas the Christian state did not. While you are sharing, you might flesh out the roles of the NRA and the ACLU.
Don't be timid; I'm too old to be offended and too blessed to play victim and trundle out the bigot card.
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Ken,
This is definitely not the place for this, so I will only repeat that there are alternatives to Mysticism (be it Christian or other), Relativism, Subjectivism, and the like. I will not turn this thread into a philosophical or political discussion, but I refuse to let stand your statement that rejecting Mysticism means rejecting all morals.
This is definitely not the place for this, so I will only repeat that there are alternatives to Mysticism (be it Christian or other), Relativism, Subjectivism, and the like. I will not turn this thread into a philosophical or political discussion, but I refuse to let stand your statement that rejecting Mysticism means rejecting all morals.
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Sorry you are having such a bad time with customs, Marcel. And I sure am sorry some of you are having a bad time with each other's belief systems. I mean, what's the big deal? First, it was the god of Sun, now it's the Son of God.
Ya live, ya die - and in between, it's just taxes and customs.
Ya live, ya die - and in between, it's just taxes and customs.
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"So yes the Hale is shipped and yes I think it will be extending my problem"
Good Luck since that's all I can offer. I'm just in shock. To handle something like that and not be in awe? I can't imagine what you're going through.
Mitch
Good Luck since that's all I can offer. I'm just in shock. To handle something like that and not be in awe? I can't imagine what you're going through.
Mitch