Pronghorn vs. Truck

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The TRUTH is in all of the scientific data that Rex Walter has generated, all the testing that Ed has done, in the GREAT knives the Bill Burke makes, and in Jerry Shipman's Kenworth.
I stand by Ed's knives, Ed's steel,and Jerry Shipman's story---which some of you sound like you doubt.
Cars are not Kenworth trucks.....enough said.
angie fowler
 
Angie,

I think we all have great respect for Ed's knives. Also, I don't think we doubt Jerry's story. I don't discount that it was a tough task for a knife, either. I think UffDa's point is that there is more than one kind of knife that could do it, and I agree.

Fowler 52100 is wonderful stuff I hear...and I don't doubt it one bit...but INFI is no paki bumber metal either ;) :D
 
I pretty much read that article in awe... After growing up on knives during the ColdSteel, MadDog vs Car Door mess that went on for years, to be followed by the ColdSteel vs Busse tirades.. It's amazing what man's oldest and most basic tool can do. And you story illustrates two things:

How to be prepared, both mentally and physically for any situation;

And, what a GOOD tool can do when the chips are down and your hand's been called.

Your story needs to be the poster ad for AKTI and to be shown on TV. Box cutters be dam*ed, if half the passengers on any flight on 9/11 had decent knives, we would be in a different world right now. Your actions, before and during, illustrate why the basic Bill of Rights needs to be invoked in the face of Society's decision to de-arm it's members.

This shouldn't come down to a Busse vs Fowler discussion... it's obvious they both would have done the job. It should come down a right to carry vs the sheep... And I think we know where most of us come down - we want the right to be able to exercise our innate sense of self-preservation in the manner we feel best suits our needs. Whether it be a Busse, a Fowler or a $10 POS. It just comes down to how it's used...

And you, sir, illustrated this perfectly. My congrats on your survival, and my thinks for your story and it's lessons illustrated...

Now... I think I'll rig my SH II straight handle for rigging in my Ford... and maybe I'll stop a little longer at Ed's table in Eugene... You are going, aren't you Ed?:D

Good luck to all of you whatever you carry... And may none of us ever need to face a situation like Mr. Shippman did...

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Joshredd: I plan on being in Eugene, so does Bill.

The discussionThe knives created by indifiduals and factories in the world of knives are like children, the makers parents. Our children leave the nest to serve man. All children are special to someone. We face many challenges as do our children. When one child excells it is a victory for all.

Like many parents we are not all equal nor do we produce equal children. When one excells it does not degrade the others. The problem comes when we try to compare, when we compare the "Green eyed monster that doth mock the meat it feeds upon" (Jealously) raises it head from the depths of all that is wrong with man and we all loose. This is a easy trap to fall into and should be avoided.

Jerry makes his knives, I make mine. Neither steel needs to be better, they both serve. We all swim in the same water, just different environments.
Thanks for sharing time about knives.
 
so whats a paki bumber? come on guys let me in on this one:confused:

and i'll take 3 of whatever you're selling:cool: :p
 
i see!! well we don't have any of those here in idaho:cool:

but we do have an influx of llama's.

come to think of it.... a llama could be a pakistany bumper:D
 
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We'd like a few words with you, Stinky. Let's take this outside... :grumpy:
 
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Step outside and say that, Stinky... :grumpy:
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don't move a inch don, tell your herd of llamas to put there hands up and come out! we have you trianglated at a couple of miles south of berkley and north of exit 14, you and your llamas are surrounded.
no tricks! michigan doesn't want you anymore:eek:
 
We ain't comin out, you're gonna have to come in and get us. We're never goin' back to the joint...
 
:eek::eek: are you sure you won't surrender, cause were not sure we want to come in after you:confused: :confused:
 
I have held off on a reply to this thread because of the rethoric that is flying around. I would like to say thanks to the people that have praised me and my knife making abilities. I would also like to say OK to you others if you would rather have a busse than a Pronghorn so what, Nobody cares certainly not me. I also own a busse knife. It is apparrent that your jelousy has taken over your brain and you feel the need to fling mud at someone. As long as you throw it at me you are leaving others alone.
 
Mr.s Burke, Shipman, and Fowler, I think we can all agree that the overwhelming moral of this story is to have the proper tool for the job, and a cool head to use that tool when needed. That Mr. Shipman used one of the best possible tools he could have had available is icing on the cake.


IS, skunks spray, and llamas spit. We're at a Mexican standoff. What do most rational people do at a time like this? Crack open a cold Carling... :D
 
welcome mr burke!
i have handled your knives on numerous occasions and they are made very well, nice work!!:cool:

i own 8 fowlers and 8 busse's so i feel like i can speak with some experience on these two knives. they are both very well made and both perform exactly and maybe even better than there makers claim!
i would imagine and after seeing yours perform on the truck that your knife is pretty awesome too.

i have re-read all the post in this thread and fail to see any rethoric, jealousy or mud slinging (although there are some hogs here).

take care and continue with your good work:cool:
 
Like many parents we are not all equal nor do we produce equal children. When one excells it does not degrade the others. The problem comes when we try to compare, when we compare the "Green eyed monster that doth mock the meat it feeds upon" (Jealously) raises it head from the depths of all that is wrong with man and we all loose. This is a easy trap to fall into and should be avoided. --- Ed Fowler
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It is apparrent that your jelousy has taken over your brain and you feel the need to fling mud at someone.--- Bill Burke
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Bill and Ed,

Jealousy? You know, I have been known to drink a few every now and then, and I'm pretty sure that your statements might make more sense to me if I were hammered, but I honestly have no idea what either of you are talking about. I have read this thread and have not seen where anybody has challenged you. Apparently you feel as though they have. No one has doubted your integrity or the validity of your story.

Your statements, however, do seem to be rather challenging in and of themselves, and seeing how I don't want the two of you to go away disappointed, I am willing to wager that Swamp Rat can produce a knife of similar size to any of yours, that will easily duplicate any test that your knives can pass. In fact, I venture to say that the Swamp Rat will surpass your knives' performance in many areas and it will do this at a fraction of the cost. You simply tell me the test criteria that the Swamp Rat must meet 90 days ahead of time and we'll set up a "Live Demonstration" at the BLADE Show in Atlanta in June.

The loser buys the first round! ;)

I look forward to our demonstration,:)

Jerry Busse
 
It must have been love, but it's over now....It must have been good, but we've lost it some how......Yeaaaaah, it must have been love.
 
Hi Jerry,
Thats the way to do it.Seems to me the other 3 are missing the point of the posts.Go Swamp Rat Knife Works.I got the feeling reading there post that there spoiling for a fight.I don't think there was any mud slinging from The Busse/SRKW followers.I didn't even want to write in this post.I have bought and sold custom and production knives for years.Some are better than others.I have talked to lots of people over the years and there are some blades that always get the nod of approval,Busse is one of those knives.Not many trade ins of Busse's and that most of time the guy needs money or just wants something new.I have a SRKW Camp Tramp I got used and now I'm hooked, knives on order and buying others from Busse and SRKW.
 
UFF DA!!!

Well, I certainly learned my lesson. I will never mention another makers knife on this forum even if my comments are complimentry. I guess some folks just don't like seeing their names in print unless they initiate it.

I sense some paranoia here. How else could anyone read anything negative into what has been written here?

"Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean that they are not out to get you."
 
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