Proof Of Busse (and Kin) Superiority

dericdesmond · Jul 16, 2012

I like Busses

RickJ · Aug 3, 2012

dericdesmond said: ↑

I like Busses
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Really! Ya think! LOL!

knife hunter · Dec 18, 2012

Please see oger cut this car in half with KDH

Link to thread:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1020050-chop-shop

and subsequent post

oge14 said: ↑

first off i would like to thank Jorden5446 and stjones for taking care of me at blade this year. i posted that i would "cut a car in half and do a video in honor of whom ever" answered my plee for help. my friend Best recorded and directed the video's which i am still trying to get onto youtube. i also said i would eat a hand full of jalapeno's while doing the video. i did eat the jalapeno's but best hit photo mode instead of video. so the first 15 minute's where i was eating pepper's and chopping and cursing are lost forever.

all in all this took about two hour's, including breaks. i will post the video's as soon as i figure out how to. while we wait here are some pic's of what a kill devil, pepper's and shear hard headedness can do. i have to say that the devil is one tough sum birch. the pic's are of the edge and spike, right after i cut the car up. i have not touched or sharpened anything. they held up amazingly well! i can not say as much for the coating. this thing was brand new when i started chopping. that was also in the first "lost" part of the video. the top edge of the spike, and cutting edge. are now a little rounded, and it will not cut paper. the coating is in poor very shape. you would also be hard pressed to find me with ANY other hawk on the market. you can open the top a vehicle enough to remove a full car seat in a few minute's. i beat this thing like it was talking bad on my mama! in one of the vid's you can hear it hitting the 1/4" deck of the trailer a few time's. part's of the support channel's on the body were tough to get through. taking multiple hit's, and cut's. some would say, "it is just sheet metal". it is just sheet metal, that is folded, layered, crimped and spot welded to keep you safe in a crash. my right hand look's like i have been rock climbing for two day's. i make a living with my hand's. they are not soft, supple, and most of the print's are worn off. still even with glove's on i earned some real nice blister's. alright enough with the whining. here are the pic's for you to enjoy. also if any body over at the shop need's anything else "tested" you know where to find me.

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dericdesmond · Dec 19, 2012

poor car

Longtrang · Dec 28, 2012

Not quite impressive as that but I just used my NMSFNO to chop up 2x4s for a fire. Chopped about 6 into kindling, my buddy said that my edge must be "as dull as a dog's hind leg". I replied by shaving the hair on my arm.

Cobalt · Jan 1, 2013

Just some good info from the past that shows Busse superiority. 80 hour HT with a 58 hour cryo. Explains the cost of Busse knives doesn't it

08-25-1999, 01:16 AM #5 Jerry Busse

Fuzzynuts,

I started doing shallow cryo. with dry ice and acetone as an accelerator, in 1984. We have used deep cryogenics for the past several years. We cryo our blades in a dry, controlled atmosphere. This allows us to take them down to temp. at a very slow rate (10 hours) and hold them down there for a long period of time (48 hours) and then bring them back up slowly (10 hours). They are then normalized with a low temp. oven temper. All in all we do a little over 80 hours of heat treating and tempering. The dry atmosphere with long cycle times has really paid off for us in the performance department.

[This message has been edited by Jerry Busse (edited 25 August 1999).]
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Jerry Busse

Speaking on behalf of the Busse Combat Basics the rubber handles are Resiprene C which is a non-hygroscopic material, meaning that it neither takes on or emits fluids. Kraton is just the opposite, it is a hygroscopic material. We have soaked our Basics handles in highly concentrated DEET for weeks and have seen no deterioration and/or break down of any kind. This is the main reason that we chose Resiprene C instead of Kraton. There were too many horror stories of Kraton handles not holding up to the constant exposure to DEET that was present during Desert Storm. Resiprene C is also more resistant to higher and lower temperatures than Kraton.

The only disadvantage of Resiprene C is to the manufacturer. Resiprene C costs approximately 5 times more than Kraton. As is typical, most disadvantages to the manufacturer are advantages for the consumer.

Jerry Busse

[This message has been edited by Jerry Busse (edited 02-04-2001).]
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Cobalt · Jan 1, 2013

Another good test of a B9:

Mike Turber

Busse Combat Knives test at the Blade Show!

Jerry and I talked about doing a test at the Blade Show and we did just that. Unfortunately we could not make a big scene about it so we went out back and just whacked away at some 1" hemp rope. The test was a simple rope cutting test. He held the blade against the rope and pushed it through the hemp rope. Jerry wanted to show me that his basic line (Which I just picked up as a distributor) would do everything he claimed.

Up to this point all tests on Busse's knives where done in house without anyone outside of the Busse camp witnessing the results. Well not this time. We did this test right out in the open and many BladeForums members could watch the test. Several people came by and watched at least part of the test which went on for quite a while, nearly 3 hours!

Those who watched at least part of the test were:
Les De Asis, Kit Carson, Rob Simonich, Bob Taylor, Field & Stream magazine and many forum members plus several people I did not know.

The test was simple. We placed a 2X4 on a table and clamped it down. We made guides, to lay the rope down on the 1&1/2" track the rope would lay on, for the cut by simply drilling some screws into the wood. Then Jerry took out a HUGE roll of hemp from his van. Jennifer (Jerry's wife) and I both would count the cuts. We each had a calculator and simply added each cut as it went through.

We used a Basic #9 for the test. We marked the blade with a marker so Jerry would be able to easily see and use the same part of the blade. I was amazed Jerry wanted to do this test even though his hand is still recovering from his accident.

Anyway I will cut to the chase as I am still tired from the show and this very poorly written review is a Testament to that.

Jerry's previous rope cut test with a Basic #9 made it to 1,254 cuts. This is truly amazing but the fact was that he video taped this test and he told me the reason they stopped at that count was because he was running out of video tape. Well for our test he did not need a video tape as I witnessed the entire test from start to finish.

How many cuts did we get?
2,771!
And we only stopped there because we ran out of rope!

After the 2,000th cut I was still able to shave my arm! At the 2,500 mark it lost the ability to shave but still sliced through paper really well. Lori took several pics of me shaving my arm and I will post those soon as well as the pics of the test.

Folks this is the most amazing thing I have ever scene when it comes to knives. During the test I wondered if the knife was actually just getting buffed by the rope. We even had hit the screws on the board at least 6 or so times. I was truly impressed and this has wet my appetite for a more complete test of the Basic line as soon a they ship.

I am tired and must get some sleep so look for more posts later.

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Best Regards,
Mike Turber
BladeForums Site Owner and Administrator
Do it! Do it right! Do it right NOW!
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TheKnifeWhisperer · Jan 11, 2013

To put that last post into perspective: I read it (above post) about a week ago, and since we were about to go camping, it hit home. So, I made it a point to count every cut made with my camp knife over a 2 day 2 night trip. Surprisingly, I only made 49 individual cuts. (that was rope, food, and kindling...we did use an axe though) At that rate, one could camp 56 times without sharpening his/her blade. THAT is unheard of. Seriously, even at twice the cut rate, it would be 28 trips with no deterioration of the edge.

Count me in.... Busse is my next purchase.

MELERIAN · Jan 28, 2013

I use an SH E le, with joy and no regrets. I can trust on this knife and it's my favorite user. The one i carry as a stand alone knife. The strongest, until today.

hunterseeker5 · Jan 29, 2013

Busse used by the man himself to pull a car car crash victim out:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...!!!!-(Cool-pic)?highlight=satin+jack+accident

A few nights ago, Jennifer and I were returning from Toledo (The Big City) down State Route 20. It was about 10:00pm and pitch dark. About 200 yds. in front of us a pretty bad accident occurred. A semi-truck full of grain had pulled out of one of the fields and was going about 10 mph when the Chrysler mini-van in front of us (going a bit over 70 mph.) slammed into the the rear of the truck. We were able to react quickly enough that we avoided becoming part of the accident and were able to offer some assistance to the injured man in the mini-van. Long story short, the front of the van was completely crushed, airbags were deployed, the guy was NOT wearing a seat belt and had crushed the steering wheel flat against the dashboard in spite of the airbags. Jennifer called 911 and stood in the middle of the highway with a large flashlight trying to stop three oncoming trucks form slamming into the now dark and impossible to see mini-van. I ran to the crushed up mini-van to check on the driver. The front quarter panel had collapsed into, and over the door making entry impossible.

INFI to the rescue!!!! I had a Satin Jack with me and was able chop and pry the crushed body panel back and then pry the van door open far enough to talk with the victim and assess the situation. By the time the paramedics arrived they had easy access to the victim. The victim was in pretty bad shape and had suffered massive internal injuries. He was ultimately life-flighted to Toledo. I have no idea whether he survived the accident or not. I tried calling the hospital but was unable to get any info on his condition due to the fact that I am not a family member.

He and his family are in our prayers,

Jerry and Jennifer

Here's a pic of the Leopard Camo Spotted Jack. . . .
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And the Busse that stopped a .40 cal bullet:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/354354-The-wounded-Badger

Actually, Jerry won't mind. How's this for an INFI testimonial!

A buddy-o-mine is on his local PD Tac Team. The AI (After Incident) investigation is over and the story is now clear to be discussed.

During dynamic entry training he was accidently smacked by one of his team members with a .40, close range. Get this.....he was wearing his favorite Busse (old Badger 5/16") John Wayne Green Beret Style inverted on his vest in an Okuden rig. The .40 smacked the Busse and Okuden Sheath dead center of the blade profile. Ready for the finale.........

The sheath is cracked and I think has a hole from the last time I saw it, but the Badger sustained only slight coating removal, PERIOD!

Probably saved his life (I forgot to ask if he had his armor on), that is rest of the story Paul Harvey and it definitely taint no BS. Can anyone truly love their Busse as much as he must?

I'll get in touch with him and get a pic. He is not a forumite. Just one of the many who specifically demanded an Okuden rig for his biggest knife investment. What a Busse payback eh!

Out.
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And while I'm sharing Busse war stories, I ran a (now complete) challenge on Busse blades to see what they could take. My favorite:

[video=youtube;fUK1cWpXSO4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUK1cWpXSO4[/video]

The full review of this knife can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub68kRqKffo

BENCHMARK CUTTING:
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63IAhG5as88
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iazS7zyOJXk

Digging through a board:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AxZkTmN8Kk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAWj5yJOFw
-FAIL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glJy6XjUVsc

Attacking metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfVIRdhbOmM
-FAIL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px031vH0YRo
-PARTIAL FAIL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA0cqOBxfz4

MELERIAN · Apr 9, 2013

dericdesmond said: ↑

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Wow! that's amazing! Really? incredible...

rega25 · Apr 25, 2013

A friend's maiden voyage with a B10 LE on a pesky chair

hunterseeker5 · Apr 29, 2013

Absolutely wailed on this knife, despite standing on the handle (you could feel the shock and pain through your boot) and having someone else hammer the tip we just could not get the knife to go the rest of the way through this seasoned maple. No dice.

So a rescue attempt was mounted to try and free the now IMPOSSIBLY stuck knife. A task fitting for Arthur, we used wooden wedges instead.
(be sure to view it ON youtube and read the description for more info)

http://youtu.be/6_HAdYCuDRg
[video=youtube_share;6_HAdYCuDRg]http://youtu.be/6_HAdYCuDRg[/video]

http://youtu.be/3OA5zc1bDDA
[video=youtube_share;3OA5zc1bDDA]http://youtu.be/3OA5zc1bDDA[/video]

Lexa33 · Jun 5, 2013

Ha- ha, tried to shave - and this is what came out :

[video=youtube_share;DRC-3LNtb9U]http://youtu.be/DRC-3LNtb9U[/video]

dingy · Sep 10, 2013

Nutnfancy tested swamp rats and dogs , all positive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8edJFy35vM

VictorUnit · Sep 12, 2013

So what are the activities that can break an INFI Blade?

So far I have seen psycho repeated 3# hammer pounding on the spine , and Wedging the blade into something and then applying huge lateral stress.

I am talking about breaking a blade in 2.

Just trying to understand what NOT To do , in excess at least, unless I really need to....

The instances of people who grinded the edge thin and then the edge getting dinged from rough work do not count IMO.

dingy · Oct 12, 2013

Another positve feedback here: http://www.blademag.com/blog/blade-knife-test-busses-bodacious-blades

ron finkbeiner jr · Oct 12, 2013

What does Busse kin mean?

dingy · Oct 12, 2013

ron finkbeiner jr said: ↑

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it means tough and high quality :thumbup:
bussecombat / swamp rat/ scrapyard knives , you can call those as busse kin .

lsheldon · Oct 12, 2013

Busse Kin are the Swamp Rat & Scrap Yard knives as they are in the same family as a Busse. Same or similar processes with different but no less amazing steels.

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