Recommendation? Pursue Grail? - or get a . . .

Discussion in 'Busse Combat Knives' started by Kenneth F Huls, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. Kenneth F Huls

    Kenneth F Huls Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Ladies and Gents of acknowledged porcine predilection:

    My Grail is a nice NMSFNO. Just have not seen any for a while. And, of course, they have become a tad pricey.

    My all-time favorite all-around field knife is the ASH-1. I have "several," and they all see extremely hard use in the wilderness. I have no complaints with the ASH-1 - BUT I simply cannot shake the burning desire for a NMSFNO.

    Perhaps this is due to personal inclinations developed via my first hand-made. I saved for and bought a Randall #1 (carbon) at a gun show when I was 13. Loved it - still do. The approx 8" blade is a magical and iconic thing. Though the NMSFNO is a heavier blade, and not a dedicated fighter (funny, thing that - I never fought a knife fight with my #1 in the last 40 years, but did use it a lot as a good camp/field knife!), it is nonetheless a beautiful 8 inch blade and epitomizes Busse for me in that realm.

    But now there is the Forsaken Steel Heart . . . AND the Hell Razor 2! Both beautiful 8-inch blades in classic lines/styles. Both more readily available and in more configurations AND much lower in price!

    The Razor is a fighter of course, but I hear not a bad all-rounder in the field (hey, I love my Skinny ASH - especially when humping gear a long distance off-trail!), and has the Walter Mitty allure of a fighter-based design, while the Forsaken Steel Heart with Nano Fusion handle looks to be a great all-'round 8-inch (and after all, Steel Hearts HAVE stolen my heart!).

    SO, do I abandon the NMSFNO quest and get a HR2 or a Forsaken Steel Heart?

    Thanks in advance for reading and for any input (if any :))!

  2. UNRL Ghandi

    UNRL Ghandi Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 24, 2013
    Stick with your grail hunt. Took me well over 3 years to finally nail down mine and at a heavy price, but there is nothing quite like the unboxing of your grail knife.
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  3. Ironkid883

    Ironkid883 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Go for it. i made a list of busses i wanted to make my users still havent bought one thats not on it .
    We need a res c cutlass or some res c sword lol
  4. Crosier

    Crosier Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 15, 2011
    In short, my answer would be no. Although I can’t speak on the HR2 I have multiples of the NMSFNO and FSH.

    Although the FSH is a great knife I would take the NMSFNO any day based on handle, chopping power, and just subjectiveness being that NMSFNO is my favorite Busse design and I think it’s darn near perfect.

    Go for a NMSFNO, you won’t be disappointed!
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  5. hydeinmind

    hydeinmind Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 30, 2015
    Go for your grail! :):thumbsup::thumbsup:
  6. Kenneth F Huls

    Kenneth F Huls Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Thank you, ALL, for the speedy and thoughtful input based on experience!

    I have learned over time that one should often listen to the gut, and you all are affirming that belief. Also, I am not entirely certain how I feel about CBT, so there's that. Based on experience, I feel like in the end I would still end up buying a NMSFNO even if I obtained and liked one of the other two.

    The Grail Quest shall continue!!!
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  7. WatermanChris

    WatermanChris Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 30, 2018
    Yeah but you were looking for that crazy a$$ Bosc ID. NMSFNOs are much more available. I traded a light user with sheath earlier this year for a comp finish Forsaken Steel Heart with sheath after it sat on the exchange for IIRC 2 weeks at an excellent price.
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  8. DamascusBowie


    Sep 20, 2016
    I saw one for sale recently.
    edit: never mind, I checked the price:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:, in my book that means NOT FOR SALE :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::D:D:D:D
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  9. Kenneth F Huls

    Kenneth F Huls Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Waterman, if you meant your NMSFNO c/ sheath was up for trade/sale for a few weeks I wish I had not missed it!
    I have been off the forum for a good bit trying to save $$$. Only partially successful so I have returned anyway :)
  10. WatermanChris

    WatermanChris Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 30, 2018
    Email me at christconnell at yahoo and I'll try to help you track one down
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  11. Murman


    Nov 11, 2015
    Ive had all those nmsfno. Is the beat busse ever
  12. Adian


    Jul 28, 2013
    Go for the grail! I kick myself for not going for a MOABM when released and now I refuse to pay the $3k price tag on one. So don’t pass me up and keep up the hunt of the price is something you can handle
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  13. clampdaddy

    clampdaddy Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 31, 2013
    I've gone through this with guns before. Other purchaces may ease your craving for a day or two, but you will still want your grail. Better to just go after it right off the bat
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  14. Twiztids4

    Twiztids4 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 17, 2014
    I have a few and if you want to contact me I’ll probably let one go. [email protected]
  15. Kenneth F Huls

    Kenneth F Huls Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Twitztids4, thank you so very kindly! I will email you shortly. Whether you let one of them go or not in the end, it is very generous of you to even consider it and invite the communication to discuss! Thank you! - I LOVE this forum and HOGS!

    Waterman, thank you as well for your generous offer to assist, too. I will let you know if I am unable to score one from the gent above.

    Thank you to the other commenters also. Yes. Funny, but as I was typing out my query to y'all, I was arriving at the same conclusion myself. I have been there in life with many things - guns, knives, bows, swords, motorcycles . . . and even wives ;) . Ya' just can't "settle" in life if what you really want is a real option. Even if the alternative is just fine or even much better than that in it's own right. That is the funny thing about communicating. You often answer you own question. But it is affirming to hear your inner voice is true.

    I wil find me a NMSFNO!!! (with a little help from my friends)

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  16. WatermanChris

    WatermanChris Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 30, 2018
    I was probably going to send you to Ken (@Twiztids4) so it's cool he commented. I knew one of the regulars had at least one but I couldn't remember who.
  17. Kenneth F Huls

    Kenneth F Huls Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Thanks, Chris!

    @Twiztids4 (Ken?), I tried emailing just now 5 times and keep getting an undeliverable message. For some reason iCloud keeps changing the capital "F" in your email addy above to a lower case "f," and it come back undeliverable. I am not sure how to resolve and contact you.

    I am Ken Huls at [email protected]. I hate to prevail upon you to try contacting me as you are the one offering a generous favor, but I have failed in my attempts to reach you to date. Regrets and thanks!

  18. Kenneth F Huls

    Kenneth F Huls Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Oh, now I understand. You aren't "Ken." just me! :)
  19. PABladeGuy

    PABladeGuy Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Sep 11, 2018
    Always buy what your heart actually desires (the Grail) rather than settle for the lesser.
    In the end you'll not fully embrace the alternative and still long for the Grail and therefore have "wasted" your hard-earned money.

    It's so heartwarming to see the HOG camaraderie in play. WatermanChris (Chris) has also reached out to me to help secure some hard to get Busse treasures.
  20. WatermanChris

    WatermanChris Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 30, 2018
    @Twiztids4 is Ken too

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