Pyramids for sharpening

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Saw this in another thread and thought it deserved more discussion. It's been a while since I was in to pyramids, but there is actually a patent on a cheops style pyramid sharpener used primarily for razor blades. Karl Drbal, a Czech radio engineer, got the patent in 1959. His explanation for the sharpening effect was that the shape of the pyramid somehow functions as an antenna of sorts to concentrate cosmic radiation, which drives water out of the steel at the microscopic level, thus maintaining the edge for a longer period of time. I don't think Drbal himself was very satisfied with the explanation, but the patent office needed some sort of a written explanation. Basically, it's just one of those things that works for no apparent reson. I don't know if pyramid sharpening would work with knives, and it certainly wouldn't work on a very dull blade, but it would be interesting to play around with the idea of using a pyramid to maintain a keen edge. The pyramid can be made from pretty much anything, from cardboard to wire. One of the four faces needs to be aligned towards north, and the blade to be sharpened should sit on the north/south axis on a little stand at 1/3 the height of the pyramid. This is all from memory, but should be readily available on the internet.
--Josh
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Yeah, maybe I should give that a try ;)

Unfortunately, I am still busy with my attempts to make pigs fly, so this sharp pyramid scheme will have to sit on the backburner for now.

Sounds like a great idea. Lets see what others think...

Paracelsus
 
I'll get back to you later, too. I'm still counting angels on the head of a pin. I've also got that UFO probe research project I'm working on.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but I don't see any basis for this idea to work. Sharpening involves material removal, not the focusing of cosmic waves. 'Nuf said.

Dean
 
Hi at least something came out of my thread.
I've used a pyramid for a couple of years to sharpen my razor blades and average about 40 shaves a blade.
a small correction it ahould be about 2/3 up or actually as high as you can get it.
To all you other guys who like to ridicule : Don't knock it till you tried it.
Then you can come back here and talk about scientific proofs etc !
it aint too difficult I'll even post a drawing tomorrow if your intersted.
 
Obviously you aren't speaking of the large stone relics in Egypt, so I'll bite:

Huh?

Unafraid of showing my ignorance, and appearing at a Wal-Mart near you...

E
 
Originally posted by Elvislives
Obviously you aren't speaking of the large stone relics in Egypt, so I'll bite:

Huh?

Unafraid of showing my ignorance, and appearing at a Wal-Mart near you...

E

no, though I imagine those would work as well:) I'm talking about small scale models of the great pyramid in Egypt-- much smaller, but same proportions. The ones used for sharpening razor blades are usually about six inches high. They can be built from a varity of materials, such as cardboard or posterboard, plastic sheeting (like from a hobby store) or metal rods, pvc pipe, etc, for a framework pyramid.
 
While I don’t believe in pyramid sharpening, I do understand the mysticism in certain hobbies. Back a few years ago, when I first got into high-end audio equipment, I tried a million little tweaks that had no basis in fact. Do any of you remember rubbing the edges of your compact discs with green marker to make them sound better? How about rubbing the surfaces of your compact discs with Armor All or other magic finishes? It was supposed to make the all of the ones and zeros sound better. People wanted to hear a difference, so they did.

I’ll stake my Sebenza that pyramid sharpening is the same kind of deal. If you can convince yourself that it made a difference, even though you have no empirical proof, you’ll get that difference. The trick is that the difference has not come from the pyramid. The difference has come from the increased attention you are paying to the subject. You cut or shave more carefully, trying to feel the difference.

So am I trying to say that there are no forces that we do not understand? Nope. I’m just saying that man pretty well understands what happens when something as obvious as a basic shape is elevated above a subject. And if there was some force that could be applied to this setup, by simply turning the setup in a certain direction… Scientists would have long ago been able to prove that this force exists. This is something easily proven, but has not been.

Now if you ask me about why my computer runs better with a stuffed Daffy Duck doll on top of it……. I won’t give you an answer. I’m afraid that my computer will mess up as soon as the answer is revealed. The magic will be lost!!! So keep your darn hands off my duck!!!
 
Years and years ago the big thing was if you had mediocre weed and you kept it in a pyramid it was suposed to make it like sins. Well needless to say that and a dime back then could get you a cup of coffee. Plus I never had the time to travel to Egypt and find out. But some fellow travelers all whole heartedly agreed it was best to save the air fare.
Bob
 
Pyramid Power or Much Ado About Nothing

full article: http://www.skeptics.com.au/journal/paramyth.htm


...The next stage in the saga of pyramidiocy leaves the world of tangible pyramids and enters the realm of pyramid as shape. More particularly, we will look at the effect of pyramids on that shibboleth of the New Age, ‘energies unknown to science’, or euts as we will refer to them for typographical reasons.

It was probably inevitable that someone, sometime, would hit upon the idea that the pyramid itself had something to do with the process of mummification. This idea flies in the face of all the evidence of how mummification was carried out, including the records left by the Egyptians themselves, but it is in accord with the thinking of those who persist in seeing a problem where none exists.

Martin Gardner, in his entertaining book The Magic Numbers of Dr Matrix, traces the first reference to this idea to the early years of the twentieth century. At that time, a "French occultist", as Gardner describes him, discovered that a dead cat became mummified after being placed in a model pyramid. As there appeared to be no great call for mummified cats in the ensuing half century, no more research seems to have been carried out.

Then, in the late 1950s, a Czech named Drbal claimed that a razor blade placed under a cardboard pyramid retained its edge for longer than would normally be expected.

Next, we find that various film actors (who may well be the descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel) claim to be able to meditate better while sitting under a pyramid. Others have claimed that foodstuffs kept in a pyramid retain all of their freshness, wishes come true when written on paper and placed in a pyramid, pyramids kill bacteria. This is all remarkable stuff, if true, but how true is it?

Let us first consider euts, whether they obey rules, and how a pyramid might channel them.

Whenever a pseudo-scientist or a paranormalist is challenged to explain some phenomenon that science decrees to be highly improbable, he responds with euts. While not wishing to suggest that there are no such things as euts, we are not very encouraged to believe in them by the claims made for them. It appears that they can do anything and are not governed by any rules at all. Proponents of pyramid power have claimed that pyramids can, inter alia, mummify flesh, preserve food in a natural state and resharpen razor blades. It would appear, to the casual observer, that these three acts call for three different applications of energy. To mummify flesh presupposes an ability to remove water molecules; to sharpen razor blades requires the ability to add molecules [editor's note: this would only be true if the blades are restored to their original state; to grind them down and thus sharpen them again would be in keeping with the water-removal theory previously expressed, I guess]; and to preserve food means preserving the status quo. As the material from which the pyramid is constructed does not appear to effect any of these processes (they are available in cardboard, wood, polystyrene, copper, polycarbonate, steel and many other materials) and as they appear to have no control systems, how is the required process determined? Can the euts itself decide that the object in the pyramid is a razor blade or a dead cat? If that is so, and that appears to be the only logical conclusion that follows from the claims, then we appear to be dealing with some form of sentient energy. This is an extraordinary concept and would require far more persuasive evidence for its existence than is offered by its proponents. Imagine the problems Einstein would have faced with relativity if gravity could think for itself!

Next we ask, "What is inherent in the pyramid shape that allows it to channel this energy when other geometrical solids do not?". We do not hear about Cube Power or Sphere Power (although this article may generate such thoughts in some minds - it has happened before). The answer is that there is nothing about a pyramid that should give us reason to suppose that this shape holds a privileged position in the world of solids. Far more likely that the proponents of this fallacy are seduced by the supposed mysteries of the Egyptian pyramids and that as a result have invested the shape itself with mystical powers.

There is no reason to believe that pyramids exert some sort of influence on energy, be it known or unknown to science. This, of course, would not matter if there were examples of tests that proved the opposite. However, while there are many references in the pro literature to such tests, it is difficult to find reference to any properly conducted tests that give factual results rather than subjective opinions. Those tests that have been conducted using a double blind methodology give no comfort to the proponents of pyramid power.

In a test of French wine, as reported in the Winter 1987-88 edition of The Skeptical Inquirer, wine kept in pyramids was judged to be no different in quality from wine not so stored. Proponents of pyramid power must fall back on the only rule that euts are known to obey. This is the law that states "No paranormal event will occur in any location that contains a sceptic". This law is better known by its common title of "The Psychic’s Cop-Out", which explains a lot of things other than the failure of pyramids to perform.

To conclude this section on pyramid power, we should refer to the influence of American author and respected sceptic, Martin Gardner, on the level of belief in this unlikely form of energy. In a satirical article in the June 1974 (oops, not 1374) edition of Scientific American , Gardner made a number of outrageous claims for the powers of pyramids, which were being promoted by his character Dr Matrix. Gardner was astonished at the amount of mail generated by this article, from people who were seeking more details of how pyramids could help them. Some of Gardner’s tongue-in cheek claims still form part of the lore of pyramid power, so do not be surprised if cube or sphere power become New Age phenomena in the future. Although there is nothing particularly mysterious about pyramids, they certainly have exerted an influence upon the imagination of many people for millennia.
 
Razors right. This can't possibly work. Man has learned absolutely everything there is to know and this wasn't anywhere in the list of knowledge. :p

I would be interested in seeing the report that was written to prove or disprove that placing a razor under a pyramid helps to maintain the edge longer.
 
Good post razoredj. I have to agree as well. I don't think it could make any kind of quantitative difference, but sharpness is a relative thing, and people see what they want to see.
 
I am not suggesting we know all there is to know. I simply remain skeptical of a premise that has no actual scientific evidence to support it. I do not consider the anecdotes of Pyramid-sharpening-believers to constitute such evidence, and in the absence of this substantiation, the claim has no credibility.

http://wrt-intertext.syr.edu/I2/graeff.html
...Is the Great Pyramid an enormous energy collector? Today, many claim that pyramids, especially the Great Pyramid or models with the same proportions, are sources of tremendous energy. Belief in "pyramid power" seems to have begun in the 1930's when a traveler named Antoine Bovies visited the Great Pyramid. He noticed that the garbage in the King's chamber did not smell the way most such refuse does. He built a model of the pyramid and placed a dead cat in it. The cat did not putrefy but instead dehydrated into a mummy. Another experimenter with model pyramids, Karel Drbal, claimed that dull razors placed in a pyramid framework would sharpen. Pyramids supposedly make plants grow faster, crystals grow in unusual shapes, cure various ailments, and amplify the power of prayer. When these experiments are repeated the results are contradictory. In order for a claim to be made in science, experimental results must be consistent (Stiebing 125-129). We must only think back to the recent claim by two scientists that they had made "cold fusion" in a jar. The "New Age" theories about the pyramid require much more empirical experimentation before they can be substantiated...

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Palais/1570/
More recently, with the advent of the so-called "New Age" and the associated tide of irrational beliefs, other theories flourished, such as old mystical ones and others like that of "Pyramid Power", according to which mainly the Great Pyramid at Giza could somehow generate energy that could preserve food, sharpen knives and benefit human health. For a time millions of books on the subject were sold and the fact that the University of Guelph in Canada, pestered by the repeated challenges and inquiries, carried out a series of tests and found all those allegations to be false, did not seem to affect the brief popularity of the appealing theory.
 
I know you weren't making the claim that we know everything. But as you said there is no scientific evidence to support it at the same time there is no evidence to disprove it. You can draw some support from other pyramid studies, but without a study focused on pyramids and razor blades, it can't be said for certain it doesn't work. Too many things that we have believed couldn't possibly happen have turned out to be possible. I personally find it extremely unlikely that a pyramid will keep a razor sharp, but I keep an open mind. Sometimes perception and faith are all that is needed.
 
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There has never been a comprehensive study disproving the existence of dragons and unicorns, either, but I doubt you'll find anyone claiming these creatures exist in the flesh today. If you do, he'll be the one in the tinfoil hat.

More recently, with the advent of the so-called "New Age" and the associated tide of irrational beliefs, other theories flourished, such as old mystical ones and others like that of "Pyramid Power", according to which mainly the Great Pyramid at Giza could somehow generate energy that could preserve food, sharpen knives and benefit human health. For a time millions of books on the subject were sold and the fact that the University of Guelph in Canada, pestered by the repeated challenges and inquiries, carried out a series of tests and found all those allegations to be false, did not seem to affect the brief popularity of the appealing theory.
 
Question for Razoedj. Did Martin Gardner live in a pyramid? I mean if he wrote an article for a June 1374 edition of Scientific American and he's still writing today, what is his secret? :D

As Shakespeare wrote..."There are more things under heaven and earth than exist in your philosophy..." I believe we are a long way from understanding all the forces at play in the universe, but I'm with Razoredj on this one. No reputable scientific studies support the many claims made for pyramid power. Many folk magic remedies have since been substantiated as having some basis in fact. Aspirin is a good example. It came from the healing properties of willow bark's salicylic acid, but until this compound was isolated and refined as acetylsalicylic acid, willow bark extracts had "magical" properties. So far, no similar physical derivation has been found for a pyramid's supposed "magical" abilities. I would add that if pyramids actually had beneficial characteristics we would all be living inside them.
 
I'm afraid that if I lived inside a pyramid, I'd have either a very sharp cat or a mummified knife :)
 
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Gardner was long suspected of hiding the fact that he was an ancient Egyptian. When asked, "Dude, what's with the mummy wrappings," he would usually reply, "I have leprosy."
 
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