Quality Control

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113, right? they're all kinda that way. I don't remember why though.
 
I understand the pick any two (speed, quality, price) adage however, Buck (AFAIK) didn't seem to suffer from these edge grind issues in the past did they? Every Buck knife I've seen prior to 2022 has come with a relatively even and shallow edge bevel. Has something changed? Have their production numbers jumped to the extent where quality is taking a hit, and why is it manifesting itself in the grind and not other areas of the build?

I do love Buck knives but wish they would improve the quality of their edge grind. Until that happens, my 110 magnacut will probably be the last Buck I buy. Prior to purchasing this knife I ordered a 112 custom and I'm hoping it comes with a much better edge than this latest stealth run.
 
jbmonkey said:
113, right? they're all kinda that way. I don't remember why though.
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Yep yep. Looking at my 110s and 112s, they all look a lot better. :)

My MagnaCut 110 does have the gouges on both sides of the plunge, but it looks like it’s the only 110/112 I own that’s like that.
 
mauiguy said:
Every Buck knife I've seen prior to 2022 has come with a relatively even and shallow edge bevel.
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Interestingly, yesterday I checked some of the 110s I have out laying around, all older ones, and none had this problem. Just checked my Magnacut 110 and it's :thumbsup:
 
pjsjr said:
Interestingly, yesterday I checked some of the 110s I have out laying around, all older ones, and none had this problem. Just checked my Magnacut 110 and it's :thumbsup:
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All of my older Bucks have a decent grind and plunge but some newer ones of mine are bad. My 124 and my Magnacut 110 are bad. I gave away a 105 that was bad too. I hope they get better
 
hunterjrg said:
All of my older Bucks have a decent grind and plunge but some newer ones of mine are bad. My 124 and my Magnacut 110 are bad. I gave away a 105 that was bad too. I hope they get better
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I think we have to accept skill level was higher back then per person. people put their entire career times into one job back then. also production level was much slower and okay for the business model then...and the demand was lower......no one had rooms full of knives. they had a few for a lifetime and that was all. comparing old times to new is an exercise in disappointment and futility.

until its all robot done or longer training requirements and have to be higher wages....
...which means even higher cost....we get what we get...
 
jbmonkey said:
I think we have to accept skill level was higher back then per person. people put their entire career times into one job back then. also production level was much slower and okay for the business model then...and the demand was lower......no one had rooms full of knives. they had a few for a lifetime and that was all. comparing old times to new is an exercise in disappointment and futility.

until its all robot done or longer training requirements and have to be higher wages....
...which means even higher cost....we get what we get...
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Well stated!
 
GPyro said:
And robots don't raise and have families.

If I gotta go look to see if my knives are affected, I guess I never noticed a problem to begin with.
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Yea... If you go looking for issues, some are always bound to be found. Under $150 I try not look for them. I figure you get a LOT of value from Buck at that price range and under, and I've never had an issue with one of their knives that affected usage. :)

I have a different opinion when their higher-end knives have fit and finish issues, as I'm sure everyone here is well aware, lol.
 
I have never seen those kind of marks before, But I have never looked for them before. So I went and looked at some of my knives. Ones that were easily accessible. of my newer knives my ironwood handled BOTM 500 Duck had been nicked slightly, but mostly buffed out. Of the older knives I checked my two dot, three pin, no nail nick,112 had been hit badly. Maybe a previous owner sharpened it on a belt grinder, maybe It was done at the factory. I can't say. I haven't owned it since new, but the damage was defiantly done with a sanding belt.

So my take. It probably isn't new. It probably has been happening all along, people just weren't looking for it. It's not worth looking for or getting all worked up about.

O.B.
 
jbmonkey said:
I think we have to accept skill level was higher back then per person. people put their entire career times into one job back then. also production level was much slower and okay for the business model then...and the demand was lower......no one had rooms full of knives. they had a few for a lifetime and that was all. comparing old times to new is an exercise in disappointment and futility.

until its all robot done or longer training requirements and have to be higher wages....
...which means even higher cost....we get what we get...
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Possibly or just this particular individual has no pride in their work.

Or maybe Buck is lacking in proper training for these issues. I can see this being the case

Having said that my new BOTM 119 was done perfectly
 
hunterjrg said:
Possibly or just this particular individual has no pride in their work.



Or maybe Buck is lacking in proper training for these issues. I can see this being the case



Having said that my new BOTM 119 was done perfectly



judging new to old standards is a lot like people today judging men in the past to modern standards. neither works well.



the fellas in the past making knives would fail if they had to hit the production numbers made today. it was a different world then and the two cant be compared fairly at all.
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^sorry the software update recently done on here.. has made it impossible to quote or reply on mobile internet app........
 
jbmonkey said:
I think we have to accept skill level was higher back then per person. people put their entire career times into one job back then. also production level was much slower and okay for the business model then...and the demand was lower......no one had rooms full of knives. they had a few for a lifetime and that was all. comparing old times to new is an exercise in disappointment and futility.

until its all robot done or longer training requirements and have to be higher wages....
...which means even higher cost....we get what we get...
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So who retired after 2021? We need them back in the shop!
 
Never had a Buck with this issue myself.

My 110 doesn't, the recently purchased orange 110LT on my belt doesn't, neither does the 55 in my pocket, my 119, or either of my 102's.
If any of the 6 110's I've gifted were like this I didn't notice when I inspected them.

Maybe this is a very recent issue ?
My new LT was a web specials closeout and has a 2021 tang stamp.
 
My 2016 which has lived its whole life in its sheath in a drawer doesn’t have a messed up plunge line grind per se but it did come witch a deep gouge on the blade….
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None of the three new Bucks I’ve purchased in the last month have had this problem. They are two lightweight 110s and a 112 with plastic handles, thumb stud, and pocket clip ( not sure of the model designation).
However I did recently buy a new knife lately and it looked almost exactly like the bottom photo In post #20. It’s a model with a bit of recurve to the blade by design, not much, but enough that I was only sharpening half the edge because of it. Sooo out came the mill file and I fixed the plunge line to my liking and I done away with that recurve in the blade. Then I used the file to reprofile the edge because it was kinda thick after I filed down the recurve. 30 minutes of careful filing in my recliner while we watched our evening TV show and another 5 minutes with a black DMT diamond stone and it was where I wanted it.

I don’t recommend this approach but for my use for that particular knife I was willing to take the gamble. I’m not saying a man should have to do that though. I wish I’d took pictures of the before and after of that little project now that I read this thread.
 
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