Queen Stag Mt. Man 1095

The Last Confederate said:
Here she is, I wanted to get a good picture before I start carrying it and teh high carbon blades start to patina.

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I'm curious, how many folks will carry and use these and how many bought them as collectors?
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Hey LC .....I plan on this being a user big time......I can't wait to get it in my paws

Cheers,
Kap:D
 
The Last Confederate, It looks like you got a beauty! Very nice picture.I am not going to carry mine,for a while,only because I've recently picked up a lot of custom folders lately,that I am more excited about.This knife to me,although it would be a great hunter,in a sheath,is more for collection,since the components are so nice.Plus bearing the Queen name.Also,may make a nice hierloom,or gift,gonna sit on it for a while,and think about it.
 
I have been carrying mine since I got it. Already starting to get a patina on it. I have had it since last Monday. The thing I like about it, is that it's not TOO heavy to carry in your front pocket, like you would any other pocket knife. I really like it, my only complaint is that one of the stag scales started coming off, but I epoxied it and popped that rivet now it's back to normal. I know Bill would have taken care of it, but I didn't want to part with it to send it back!
 
I just picked up 2 from Bill that arrived today. These are the crimson and I think it is called rootbeer bone. The natural bone(rootbeer)is pretty nice. I like the crimson better for color but I have to ask this, how have all your knives been put together? Like the crimson has a bit more blade play than I like and if you look at the knife in the open position it almost looks like the blade goes a wee bit left. May be just an optical illusion as the top swedge grind and spine aren't that great. All that being said these are very classy knives. I was kind of bummed though when looking at the liners. They are way thin. I have a really old Case that has been sharpened down to about nothing, loose blade etc.etc. But the liners are probably 2x as thick again as these Mt. Man's.

The good thing is that the rootbeer carries excellant in my back pocket next to my wallet and it took an edge that is down right excellant. I love high carbon steel in a blade. I am going to be looking around for some older Mt. Man styles just to compare these to. What I really wish is that someone would start making a nice edc folder with a high carbon steel blade. Something that will get that aged patina look to it and hold and edge and that isn' the devil to sharpen. keepem sharp
 
longbow,I had a Root Beer,with blade play,it annoyed me,so I sold it to a guy in Tx.,here in the forum.I was up front with him,on the play,and took a hit,and gave him a good deal.Now I know,I could have sent it back,but I just wasn't into doing that.When Bill contacted me,about the stag coming in,I phoned him,and told him of the play in the Root Beer.He said,that this knife,the design,such a large blade,has a few issues with play.Now the stag I got,has a tiny bit of play,up and down,but I do not think it is too bad at all.The knife is so nice,I will not send it back.Plus,I'm probably just going to hold on to this knife,for collection.Bill also told me,any problems,or if you are not satisfied,send it back,I am not going to,I am satisfied.
 
Mine has a very slight amount of blade play also, not enough to affect anything. But it doesn't lockup quite as solid as my CSB D2, but my CSB D2 has had a blade replacement at the factory, so that may be why it's so tight now.

I've already used my Stag/1095 enough to need to re-sharpen it, and it took a wicked edge! it was sharp to begin with, but when I finished it up on ceramic sticks, it's down right scary.
 
Mine came with a little blade play too. It's beautiful so I'm not going to send it back, but I sure wish these Mtn Man Lockbacks didn't have that issue. I also have the Schatt and Morgan with "goldenroot" bone and ATS-34. It doesn't have any play but only because the first one I received did have play and I sent it back for a replacement. I like both these knives but I have to admit the Mtn Man isn't one of my favorite Queen patterns, for this reason alone.
 
I don't know I haven't heard back from Bill yet. I may send it back cause I think I can get one better. Actually the uneven grinds bother me more than the blade play up and down. I must may send it back and upgrade to the stag. But here is the clinker on that, I put a skull fob on it and my eldest digs it. So it might stay here. He thinks its the nuts for sure. This is from a a young man who has carried a first issue CRKT M16 and beat the dog crap out of it and well it still locks up nice and tight. Just clean it once in a while. So we'll see. I must admit that I like this pattern of knife. I am going to have Lifter maybe make some sheaths for them. I would also like to see some nice modern folders made with high carbon steel and not stainless. A bigger Mt. Man version would be nice too.

I have compared these knives to the $19 BUCK 110 I just bought at Wally World and frankly no comparison in quality of build. The handles and steel are way nicer on the M.M. though. Matter of fact I am thinking of grabbin a Custom Shop 110, with stag and carbon steel. We'll have to see. Keepem sharp fella's.
 
longbow said:
Matter of fact I am thinking of grabbin a Custom Shop 110, with stag and carbon steel. We'll have to see. Keepem sharp fella's.
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That might be difficult, Buck doesn't offer a carbon steel option, Damascus when they have it, but not carbon.
 
This is my first message...been lurking - but followed up on a lead I read here to find Bill H. and also ordered a stag mountain man...he is a fine gentleman!

When mine arrived it also had play in the blade...none laterally which is very good... but there is play against the lock. It seems that the blade notch and lock engage tight and so I believe that the play originates in the lock pivot pin... I can feel a small amount of movement there when working the blade tip up and down.

There may be excess clearance between the frame and the pin...anyway I called the factory to ask if this might be unsafe... they said no but that they would correct it if I sent it back. Haven't bothered Bill with this but am a little disappointed .. particularly as I was trying to convince myself that it was my imagination ... or I was being too critical...but as it now appears to be occuring to others not sure what to do. AP
 
It's always best to send it to the factory! If every one did, they would improve their quality control just to avoid the hassle of returns, and we'd all get better knives!!:D
 
Vertical blade play is just unacceptable to me. You feel it every time you cut something moderately hard and it just feels less confident to me.

Bill is a great person to deal with and I've returned knives to him in the past until he sent one that met my expectations. We obviously taked about it before placing my original order and he is very willing to examine a knife fore mailing it. This is what separates Bill from every other internet knife dealer, he actually provides a good service!

I never ordered this one because I don't like the round Queen crest. i have a Red Stag with the Classic crest and I Love it!!! No vertical blade play, handles match in color and texture and it sounds so cool when the blade locks open...thunk, like a vault. I love it.

Collecter
 
Wow I just got my MM Stag 1095 in the mail 5 minutes ago.........incredible quick service and its a beauty!
I saw the regular bone handled one at SHOT but the Stag makes it pale in comparison.....the knife is thicker and sturdier feeling in the hand,,,,,,,,,what a great piece....thanks Bill for the quick service as usual!!!

Kap
 
I just joined the mountain man club myself with the Schatt and Morgan file and wire version. It is a sweet looking knife and one I have always wanted to acquire:p .

Unfortunately, the one I got seems to suffer from some of the same deficiencies you guys have already pointed out. It has a slight amount of up and down blade play, as well as some very uneven grinds on the blade edge, on the last 1.25" out near the tip. As someone else mentioned, the uneven grinds bother me the most. I think I may send it back to the factory because by the time I reprofile the blade enough to even out the grinds, I will have lost a significant amount of blade steel.
 
I returned the Crimson Mt. Man last week and just a couple of days ago rec. the replacement. The fit and finish is way way better than the first but it still has blade play in it. Which pisses me off but it has nothing to do with Bill at all. He shipped promptly etc. and offered a refund when I first sent it back so he is cool. Very cool. My problem is with Queen. What a nice knife and the blade steel I love but the inconsistency between knives leaves much to be desired.

What I think they need to do is use a stiffer spring in the back. Now I have a 19 dollar buck 110 from Wally world that smokes it in quality. Solid as a rock, just bought a BUCK leather sheath for it off ebay for 9 bucks and that looks way cool when I carry it and I am riding. Reminds me of my younger biker days in the 70's and 80's. Which leads me to a knife that cost all of 19 bucks in a tin, with a keychain and nylon sheath and 420hc steel heat treated it seems to perfection. The Mt. Man is 3x the cost for what I consider half the knife. Just because of the blade play. Ah well I still like them don't get me wrong and I just may take one apart and see what I can do about stiffer springs. Maybe Oupa can help me out who knows. The rootbeer I have has as nice fit and finish with a little less blade play but blade play none the less. Well keepem sharp and thanks
 
Longbow...the play on mine doesn't seem to be as a result of poor spring tension/strength. I believe my play is the result of the fact that the pin that the locking back pivots on has too much clearance. I can feel movement in the pivot pin when I put any pressure on the blade.

Like most of you I imagine - I have a quiver full of lock back knives and this seems to be the only one that does this. One is an old AG Russel "One Hand" knife..without scales you get a pretty good picture of how the lock should work...and from what I can see there doesn't seem to be any design factor that requires play to make the lock function properly.

Funny.. I forgot my old Buck 110...pulled it out to look at it again last night - must be 30 years old now - The brass bolsters are getting green (shouldn't leave it in the leather case) but it opened smoothly and locked up very tight...don't like the upswept blade design very much but it is sharp...
 
Mine is now up for grabs in the F/S Production sub-forum.Anyone who wants one at a few bucks off,go for it! Thanks,Vince
 
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