Question#2 Snakeskin Micarta

I bet Amy's desk is made out of a 4'x4'x3" thick slab of the most beautiful polished Snake you can dream of,,,, with Coors light sweat ring stains on it!
 
Balislinger said:
Just out of curiosity, why do the old-school micarta slabs seem to have more character that the new micarta slabs? Did they just make micarta differently in those days? Seems the basic formula would have remained the same. Compare, for example, old-school machined Tigerhide to new tigerhide, or old-school green linen to new school, or the old slabs on the SHSH/SHBA series to new micarta.
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I wonder if it has something to do with the manufacturing processes? With the drive away from "environmentally hazardous" constituents in all aspects of industry these days, it wouldn't surprise me that the vibrant colors of the older stuff was lost when they shifted chemicals.
 
leatherman said:
No, Busse has stated, over the last couple of years, that there wasn't going to be any more once the supplies were gone. He hasn't said that the supplies were running out till this year.

Please get your facts together before posting inflammatory remarks like that.
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I'm gonna take back what I said. I wouldn't want this to get ugly.
 
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Hey, no harm, Jerry Busse is in no shape or form,, a shy man, if he wants to comment he can, anytime anyone says things are running out, they are saying get this while you can, its all about selling knives,, that's what we do, sell or collect or myself both, let's keep it friendly, I just wanted to start a valid question thread, this is good,, hell its better than another thread on the Sar 4, ( you know).
 
rbmcmjr said:
I wonder if it has something to do with the manufacturing processes? With the drive away from "environmentally hazardous" constituents in all aspects of industry these days, it wouldn't surprise me that the vibrant colors of the older stuff was lost when they shifted chemicals.
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Maybe they contain LEAD?
 
rbmcmjr said:
I wonder if it has something to do with the manufacturing processes? With the drive away from "environmentally hazardous" constituents in all aspects of industry these days, it wouldn't surprise me that the vibrant colors of the older stuff was lost when they shifted chemicals.
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This is how they are going to destoy the industrialized United States of America. Through phony evironmental "global warming" claims and through global policies through nafta and cafta.
 
G10 has a very similar appearance to the paper Micarta and is tougher. That's what Garth told me last Fall at Knob Creek when I asked why they don't use paper Micarta for handles anymore.
 
jnphares said:
G10 has a very similar appearance to the paper Micarta and is tougher.
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That may be true, but "similar" doesn't mean "identical". It is much uglier, which outweighs the benefits.

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Paper on the left, G10 on the right. No contest.
 
Hell yeah, snakeskin!!!

I remember a few instances of seeing some really beautiful snakeskin being offered after it was said that snakeskin is either in short supply or all gone. The most WTF moment was when I saw the satin NMFBM (I think it was a run of 20 or so?) with some very nice looking machined snakeskin on it, offered at some show I had no way of attending.

I think part of the snakeskin's "scarcity" is a means to drive desire, but this is just speculation on my part. If so, it's working. I can do without hand smoothed (anything) even snakeskin, but when I see the beauty of machined snakeskin, that really does it for me! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:




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My guess is they don't have enough to slab a run of any new models and what they do have will go on special knives where there are just a few made and offered at shows. Makes sense.
 
The snakeskin thing makes some sense to me, but sounds like folks got conflicting info from the shop. Same thing happened with the saber SFNOs. With the snakeskin, it sounds like for the most part--except for some folks asking directly--I think they've been up front about it, saying their supply is dwindling. I think alot of what they meant was that there would be no more production runs with it, not that they wouldn't still have some scraps to make some customs with. Makes sense if its running out to keep some on hand for some nice customs.

I heard at one point Busse said on the 1 of 13 FBM LE or something that it was the last of the snakeskin. Some folks took that to mean " the last of it, period," and spent more money on those knives, only to see a bunch of snakeskin stuff come out afterwards. I could see some folks raising eyebrows about that, but again, the distinction seems to be machined vs hand-shaped. I believe the 1 of 13 run was the last of machined snakeskin, and the rest of it has been too thin to machine. So maybe they meant "last of the machined snakeskin." If there was a fault, then I guess it was to not say it was the last of the machined or production stuff, but that there may be scraps for some custom or occasional pieces.

The saber SFNO thing was similar. First, the custom shop said they couldn't make a custom one because all the blanks or something were gone, but then the LE comes out, and then, after that, a bunch of new sabers. Seeing them, I was left feeling, "Well, is there or isn't there a way to make them again?" Felt a little bit like the snakeskin folks, you get told one thing, then another thing happens. But I think it's ALL GOOD too. The Busse folks go out of their way to make us happy, and with all that work and drinkin' going on over there, I'm surprised they even have an idea of what materials may be lurking around that place! If they're like most hard-working, fun-loving folks I know, it's hard to keep track of all the details, so we just do our best. It's really cool they even take time out to answer our questions, so I don't expect the answers to always add up, especially after 5pm!

Keep putting out the good stuff, Busse, we love ya!
 
Balislinger said:
The snakeskin thing makes some sense to me, but sounds like folks got conflicting info from the shop. Same thing happened with the saber SFNOs. With the snakeskin, it sounds like for the most part--except for some folks asking directly--I think they've been up front about it, saying their supply is dwindling. I think alot of what they meant was that there would be no more production runs with it, not that they wouldn't still have some scraps to make some customs with. Makes sense if its running out to keep some on hand for some nice customs.

I heard at one point Busse said on the 1 of 13 FBM LE or something that it was the last of the snakeskin. Some folks took that to mean " the last of it, period," and spent more money on those knives, only to see a bunch of snakeskin stuff come out afterwards. I could see some folks raising eyebrows about that, but again, the distinction seems to be machined vs hand-shaped. I believe the 1 of 13 run was the last of machined snakeskin, and the rest of it has been too thin to machine. So maybe they meant "last of the machined snakeskin." If there was a fault, then I guess it was to not say it was the last of the machined or production stuff, but that there may be scraps for some custom or occasional pieces.

The saber SFNO thing was similar. First, the custom shop said they couldn't make a custom one because all the blanks or something were gone, but then the LE comes out, and then, after that, a bunch of new sabers. Seeing them, I was left feeling, "Well, is there or isn't there a way to make them again?" Felt a little bit like the snakeskin folks, you get told one thing, then another thing happens. But I think it's ALL GOOD too. The Busse folks go out of their way to make us happy, and with all that work and drinkin' going on over there, I'm surprised they even have an idea of what materials may be lurking around that place! If they're like most hard-working, fun-loving folks I know, it's hard to keep track of all the details, so we just do our best. It's really cool they even take time out to answer our questions, so I don't expect the answers to always add up, especially after 5pm!

Keep putting out the good stuff, Busse, we love ya!
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Take a look at the LE versus the older satin/snake/sabre you got from me. They are not cut from the same cloth. The sabre grind line comes down further than the older ones. More meat on it. Obviously the old pattern wasn't used so they were being truthful in my opinion.

As far as the snakeskin ... there were a few different kinds thru the years and what was used on one run wouldn't work on another to get the pattern desired. The Snake FBM type slabs wouldn't look right on say a BAIII or SJ and vica-versa. And the SJTAC snakeskin wouldn't look right on a BAIII or SJ.
The Sar4 scales are very cool. I hope to see more like this on future production runs!

George, let see your entire SFNO collection in one picture ! Awesome knives you have aquired my friend!
 
We only have scrap pieces of SnakeSkin left over. These must be hand cut with band saws, and are only used on Customs.

Any machined pieces that have been used on Customs, were leftovers from previous runs, and I believe that there are none of these left in any configuration.

As for it being a marketing move?. . . Hmmm???. . . So, I put an end to the availability of the MOST popular handle color in Busse Combat history so that I could increase the demand of something that I can no longer obtain, while forgetting to raise the regular price of what I had left over???. :confused: :confused: :confused: . . . .

This level of marketing genius may point more towards a serious drinking problem, rather than a seriously well thought out marketing plan. :eek:. . . .Or perhaps it means that I need to drink more scotch in order to understand my own genius!!!!:eek:. . . Got it!!!!:D

Let's Drink more and explore my genius together!!!! :thumbup:

Jerry :D
 
Told you, he would show up, here's the answer you drunks,, lol.. Now back to your scheduled Sar 4 programing,,


That's why Samual L. Jackson wasn't there, he knew the Snakes were in Limited #'s and us hogs could handle them,,

Cool Boss Man,,
 
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