Question about a shotgun.

edgetrip said:
...but back when I sold guns an ex-SAS trooper came in and we got to talking and he mentioned a shotshell they used made up of discs whose primary purpose was to" disengage" locks though he did say they were effective as anti personel rounds at very short distances.

Like membership of the SEALs and 101st Airborne, many claim to have been members of the SAS...

Even assuming that your former customer was ex-regiment, most of them are not gun nuts. The firearms they use are tools to do a job, not something to be enthused about.

UK police (and probably 22 SAS Regt.) use Hatton rounds for breaching doors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatton_round

maximus otter
 
maximus otter said:
Like membership of the SEALs and 101st Airborne, many claim to have been members of the SAS...

Even assuming that your former customer was ex-regiment, most of them are not gun nuts. The firearms they use are tools to do a job, not something to be enthused about.

UK police (and probably 22 SAS Regt.) use Hatton rounds for breaching doors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatton_round

maximus otter
True, I have no way of knowing for certain though he was believable and not at all boastful about it. He also was not a gun nut, in fact I think he was more amused and amazed at the american gun fetish as demonstrated by the walls hung with destructive devices around him. He was one of those quiet understated types who seemed to know what he was talking about.
 
i heard you could open a cartridge up, take out and replace the shots with those leadweights used for fishing, just attach some piano wire between them and go nuts.. :D i bet it would be very funny shooting bushes and similar, short barreled weapons would make the most out of it i suppose
 
brandon said:
I'm not sure how you'd even start to rifle a square barrel. And even if you did it, I can promise you it won't spin!

Dunno. A square cross-section that is twisted probably isn't as efficient, but twisted hexagonal barrels are used in some quality firearms.
 
Yeah, you could simply twist the "square" to the rate of twist desired.

"Squared" because a sharp cornered square bore would result in some really high stress risers at the corners. Either use radiused corners or you'd have to use thick barrels (heavy). I recall reading about such bores tried in the 1800s (obviously went nowhere).

No handloaders here?

There was a load bandied about in the early '80s in which you used appropriately cut lengths of wire in the shot-cup. Wicked short-range damage to soft targets, with low penetration of walls. But, how would you explain it in court?
 
mwerner said:
I've heard of the cutting tactic, very old. Dangerous? Seems like you would get a lot of gas blowback around the brass head....

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no, IIRC no blowback, we mostly did this on 410s, not as many on 12 gauge, both plastic and paper hulls, never any blowback, at least none was noticed, and we uaually looked, again i dont reccomend it, silly and dangerous thing to do lol.
 
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