Question for the .45 ACP lovers out there

I have had several Glock 20's in 10mm, and it is a great cartridge, fast, flat shooting and very accurate, but it belongs in a Glock. The old colt delta elite 10mm were nice guns but they could not hold up to the full house 10 mm. It beat the 1911 platform apart. There is enough flex in the glock frame to help absorb some of the recoil from full house loads. .45 acp's are very cool, and there are several companies that are makeing reasonable priced 1911's that work....Sig and Springfield Kimber....etc. It used to make me mad that it seemed like you had to spend 2000 + to get a 1911 to work properly, but things have changed. Buy them both...10mm in a Glock , 1911 is personal choice.....
 
What are you doing with it? I've owned a couple Glock 10mm and , while I like e cartridge, I don't really see the point. The full powered round requires a stout frame that can make carry a challenge. For a carry gun you'd be better served with a .45. Cheaper and easier to find therefore, easier to practice with.

The 10mm has is more powerful and penetrates better but what do you really want from a handgun? If you're looking for a hand cannon for the woods get a revolver.
 
Recently purchased a FN .45. Very soft shooting .45. I like it for a plastic .45. Gotta love 16 rds of .45 on tap with a light rail:)

GregB
 
Having Carried and shot 1911 in .45 acp for more than 30 years, if I were to start over today it would be with a Glock 20 in 10mm.

Takes a little longer to get back on Target, not as comfortable to shoot, not as fast changing targets,
Takes more skill to use, not for the recoil sensitive, not as fast on target for the first shot for me but I just about bet 15,000 rounds and 30 years of practice like I have with the 1911 and I would not say that.

Better against cars and people in a car, there for better in the City, no comparison against Bears, better in the woods.

I do not own a Glock 20, one of my kids does, I have practiced with it a bit, I like it just fine.

1911 is a step backward, get one for fun if you like.
 
kdstrick said:
Uncle Ted popped a Warthog with a Glock 10mm... Pretty impressive.

He favors the caliber... which gives it a lot of credibility in my book. Wonder if Ted has INFI??? Jerry should send him some... guarantee he'd put it to good use!

More on Ted and the 10MM...

"Rock and Roll icon and enthusiastic big-game hunter Ted Nugent is known to carry a 10mm Glock as backup on his dangerous-game rifle hunts in the bush country of the Dark Continent and has used the gun as his primary weapon to hunt North American and African plains game. Nugent has taken elk, caribou, bear, boar, ram, oryx, warthog, eland and zebra with his 10mm, not to mention finishing off a wounded Cape buffalo."

From here: http://the10mmautoisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/

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Well, you can also wipe your ass with your foot.
 
IronMaiden0329 said:
What can a .45 do that my 10mm can't do better
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Old age isn't so bad when you consider the alternative.
~Maurice Chevalier, New York Times, 9 October 1960~

Why do I carry a .45? Because John Browning never designed a .46!

Because you don't need double stacked fifteen round mags when you are carrying the Lords round of choice.

The only round capable of carrying water to your horse, .45 ACP Hollowpoint

If you can't conceal a Howitzer, carry the next best thing.

After two World Wars and one Cold War, it still goes bang every time.

Delivering 230 grains of "**** you up" to U.S. enemies since 1911.



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Ton of great advice in this thread already...

I enjoy carrying my Glock 30 as my CCW. Shot the 20, loved it, but I think its overkill for city carry. Woods carry is another story if you have bear or moose to worry about.

With that said, I still prefer my 26 or 17 as accurate follow up shots are SIGNIFICANTLY quicker.

Now for a nice G rated pic of my 30 :)
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You don't have to regard the 1911 as mutually exclusive with the 10mm cartridge ... properly done so that the top slide is either heavier by being longer or is specially fabricated with more weight and with stronger recoil springs ... there is no need to worry about the 1911 design shooting loose with the excess recoil developed by the 10mm. A bespoke custom 1911 in 10mm is definately something which has been tempting me for Africa ... here are a few nice examples ...

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I must say I like the thinking behind the Limcat design ... the fixed front sight enables faster/easier retention of sight picture on double taps and the porting in the barrel keeps the OAL down compared to adding a compensator on the end of the barrel ... this is a trade off though if you were wanting to consider fitting a silencer ... the barrel ports won't work with one ( that is the model with the red background ) ... but they will do the same model without barrel ports ( see the one with the green background ) and that would be my choice ... ideally with a slightly longer barrel fitted with an end cap to take a silencer for specialised applications ...

I was also speaking with Mark Morris about a custom 10mm he was doing like the one below ... Mark is a great 1911 pistolsmith favoured by the likes of Massad Ayoob ... he is'nt cheap but his pistols are at the very top of what can be achieved ... the one below is not a re-worked STI 10mm ... it is a complete cutom build which simply uses the STI frame and is in .45 ... however he also does this build in 10mm

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For my uses I like the 10mm for it's armour piercing rounds and I like the Limcat design for it's fast shooting ... I would probably get the lower dust cover to be fitted with an accessory rail too ...

There is nothing wrong with a .45 until you encounter kevlar ...after that you need to go for head shots and if that's the case I would prefer a .22 ... even a 9mm with specialised ammo is struggling on the kevlar now ... and the privateers operating out of Somalia have been paid off enough to have the very latest body armour. Not many bother with the ceramic plates though ... so the 10mm is still effective ...

A .375 Chey Tac sorts out the ceramic plates if need be ... but a lot of Contractors are working on the hope that if you are simply armed with an AK47 they will leave you alone ... personally I'd rather pay more and have the right tools for the job ...
 
Ken's post put me onto Lone Wolf barrels ... they do a complete slide / barrel / mussle break which you can just slide onto a Glock 20 ... if you are on a budget these are great ...

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and you can unscew the mussle break for the silencer ... even swap slides if you want ...

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I am with Papathud ... if I had't been flicking a safety off for so many years I would be quite happy with Glocks ... if I found them with the right trigger pulls ...
 
PeterPHWS said:
Ken's post put me onto Lone Wolf barrels ... they do a complete slide / barrel / mussle break which you can just slide onto a Glock 20 ... if you are on a budget these are great ...

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and you can unscew the mussle break for the silencer ... even swap slides if you want ...

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I am with Papathud ... if I had't been flicking a safety off for so many years I would be quite happy with Glocks ... if I found them with the right trigger pulls ...
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azshaman said:
From a lady's viewpoint, I have to agree with David Brown and Knife Hunter. Since I've been shooting, I just prefer the feel and am used to the .45. I would have to say that while the 10mm has superb ballistics, it just felt different on the range.

Embracing simplicity, I'm sticking to .45. I love both my Ed Brown and HK in that caliber, and I know the characteristics of both well enough to feel confident of what the round can and cannot do. Just my two cents' worth, though.
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And my two cents ... are exactly the same as hers!:)
 
do you want to kill the guy in front of you trying to hurt you. or do you want to kill him and anyone standing within 20 feet behind him
 
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