Quick!!! . . . Look At The Edge Of A Dime!!!!. . . .

Jerry Busse

Jerry Busse

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For those of you who might be wondering about our nuclear melt down double rounding process . . . . Here's the answer! :cool:

We wanted to show the height of the double rounded edge that lies between the handle slabs of the Jack Hammer 10. The 3D images can be a bit misleading as to how very little this rounded edge stands proud of the handle slabs. So, grab a US Dime and look at the thickness of the edge. The highest point of the rounded tang is 10% less than the thickness of a US Dime!!!! . . . It comes in at an imperceptible .048" with NO sharp edges!!! :eek::eek::eek::thumbsup::cool:

The arc in the image below depicts this exact dimension when compared to the thickness of a dime. :eek:

Cool Huh? :confused:

Let's Drink! :cool:

Jerry :D

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clampdaddy said:
I havent felt one of the rounded tang knives but I really do like how they look.
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They feel fantastic, imho...consider this, you're getting a Nuclear Meltdown Treatment wall-to-wall around the entire perimeter besides the cutting edge, of course. It's basically a Custom Shop feature provided on this model and the TGULB as standard. It's a hell of a deal...you won't be disappointed.
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
They feel fantastic, imho...consider this, you're getting a Nuclear Meltdown Treatment wall-to-wall around the entire perimeter besides the cutting edge, of course. It's basically a Custom Shop feature provided on this model and the TGULB as standard. It's a hell of a deal...you won't be disappointed.
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I love nuked edges. Reminds me of a nicely "de-horned" custom pistol. I'd love to see it used on some smaller knives. Put it on something Ratmandu to Hog Badger-ish in size, and add a small sharply squared off section of spine for striking a ferro rod and I'd be in hog heaven.
 
Main problem is that you get no sure thumb rest with this rounded, elevated tang when holding the knife with sabre grip. In addition, the grip feels a little bit thinner, which is also a problem with big hands like mine.

In fact, I dislike this design so much that I even gave away my TGULB (which is a really great knife despite of this.). So I will not buy the JH 10, although it looks really very good.

Hope that Busse will not use this feature now regularly!
 
All these things Jerry comes up with to keep tweaking and progressing and extending the capability of the steel. The thing that blows me away and gives me faith in Busse Combat is that these aren't fixes that needed to be made, these are deeper and more refined applications of their basic principles. The consistency and commitment with which Jerry and Co. do this are a pleasure to watch in real time, and this raised rounded edge is a perfect example.

If Im getting the idea behind the design correctly, it offers a protrusion that will aid in gripping, but it is geometrically and spatially the smallest and most efficient protrusion with the added benefit of removing a combined 20 inches of sharp edge from the tang.I bet that aids in torsional and overall flexibility of the blade, how can it not. A tube is less rigid than a prism, simply put.

Holy freakin' schneikies that's cool. I bet it feels like nothing in this world when combined with micarta and, if were going to be absolutist, coated as well.
 
MountainMan11 said:
Main problem is that you get no sure thumb rest with this rounded, elevated tang when holding the knife with sabre grip. In addition, the grip feels a little bit thinner, which is also a problem with big hands like mine.

In fact, I dislike this design so much that I even gave away my TGULB (which is a really great knife despite of this.). So I will not buy the JH 10, although it looks really very good.

Hope that Busse will not use this feature now regularly!
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With regard to hand size, a handle with a rounded edge or square edge of equal circumference will take up equal amount of "hand. "

The other things you mention are subjective.

It is more likely, and physically supportable that the thinner steel reduced the amount of hand the grip occupied, than the geometry of the pommel, given that the scales are of equal geometry and thickness as other team Gemini you've handled.

But I digress.

I prefer the rounded edge.
Also, who gives away a $400 knife unless it's to someone you have a profound connection to who would appreciate what they were given. I'm not giving such a thing away just out of spite when I'm the only one who would actually pay for such an act.... why not sell/trade for something you'd actually enjoy if you were just unhappy? I don't love everything any maker of anything has ever made. Some makers produce a large % of things I like, but none ever have succeeded at being 100%. Busse is in the higher % of love, but they've made plenty of things I've got no interest in, and that's ok....I'm not their only customer, not by a long shot (which is good, I don't want to be responsible for success/failure of a company).
 
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co556guy said:
It is more likely, and physically supportable that the thinner steel reduced the amount of hand the grip
I prefer the rounded edge.
Also, who gives away a $400 knife unless it's to someone you have a profound connection to who would appreciate what they were given. I'm not giving such a thing away just out of spite when I'm the only one who would actually pay for such an act.... why not sell/trade for something you'd actually enjoy if you were just unhappy? I don't love everything any maker of anything has ever made. Some makers produce a large % of things I like, but none ever have succeeded at being 100%. Busse is in the higher % of love, but they've made plenty of things I've got no interest in, and that's ok....I'm not their only customer, not by a long shot (which is good, I don't want to be responsible for success/failure of a company).
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I gave the TGULB to one of my my sons, he is happy with it.
The rounded tang would be fine if the 1/2“ where the thumb rests at sabre grip would be flat or have some grooves.
Its subjective, you are right, but I simply do not like it.
Its „Busse combat“, but for a „combat knife“, an unreliable thumb rest is a no-go IMHO. So I really hope this feature will not become standard at their otherwise wonderful knives.
 
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MountainMan11 said:
Main problem is that you get no sure thumb rest with this rounded, elevated tang when holding the knife with sabre grip. In addition, the grip feels a little bit thinner, which is also a problem with big hands like mine.
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MountainMan11 said:

In fact, I dislike this design so much that I even gave away my TGULB (which is a really great knife despite of this.). So I will not buy the JH 10, although it looks really very good.

Hope that Busse will not use this feature now regularly!
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MountainMan11 said:
I gave the TGULB to one of my my sons, he is happy with it.
The rounded tang would be fine if the 1/2“ where the thumb rests at sabre grip would be flat or have some grooves.
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MountainMan11 said:
Its subjective, you are right, but I simply do not like it.
Its „Busse combat“, but for a „combat knife“, an unreliable thumb rest is a no-go IMHO. So I really hope this feature will not become standard at their otherwise wonderful knives.
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MountainMan11,

I see where you just registered on Bladeforums on Monday. Then you posted your first 2 and only posts to this thread.

Unfortunately, nothing you've said in your first 2 posts makes any sense, no matter how much I drink!

You claim to have given your Team Gemini away because it had an "unreliable thumb rest".

I agree with you.

Mostly because The Team Gemini DOES NOT HAVE A THUMB REST! There is an extended integral top guard where the thumb rest would normally be. I guess that could qualify it as "unreliable", whatever that is supposed to mean.

Then you state that you're not going to buy the Jack Hammer 10 because of this same feature, and yet there actually is a thumb rest on the Jack Hammer 10!!! But there is NO EXTENDED TOP GUARD on the Jack Hammer 10 like there is on the Team Gemini that you gave away because of the "unreliable thumb rest" that wasn't there . . . That darned thumb rest was so unreliable that it forgot to show up for work!

These 2 knife models are in no way related or alike in the thumb rest area that you find so troublesome! . . . They are miles apart!

Do you see my confusion? Your posts come off as very Troll-like.

I'd like to be wrong about this. That would make me happy! If so, I'll owe you a scotch and a cigar.

Please call the shop at (419) 923-6471 and ask for Jerry before you post anymore of this nonsense on our forum.

I look forward to your call.

Let's Drink!:thumbsup:

Jerry:D


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I can attest....the rounded tang for me is SWEET as can be. Makes the handle feel secure in hand for me...just my 2c. I love the design personally.
 
Good grief, that thumb rest comment about the TGULB went right over my head. It sounded "off" to me somehow, but it never crossed my mind that its a Gemini has that double talon hole handguard, theres no flat there...and then Jerry, sauced out of his gourd catches it immediately...I need to start drinking heavily, I know it cant make me think any slower so it could only help o_O:eek::cool::thumbsup::D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
@Damascus Bowie: At the TGULB there is also a place where you have to put your thumb at sabre grip- and it does not feel good for me due to the rounded profile. I have a very long background in knife fighting (and also modern sabre fencing), so I think I can tell if a knife fits for me personally or not.
And its no trolling when I say I simply do not like this feature- obviously I am the only one with this opinion.
This is a free country, nobody is forced to share my point of view.
So no need for further discussion.
 
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My apologies sir, you should have mentioned you knife fighting credentials sooner, now that Jerry is aware as well I'm sure he will make any necessary design changes.

Btw, have you tried the Trough Raider? Its double guards are in a reverse birdshead configuration and together with the choil allow the user to secure a grip that to my larping hands is the strongest Ive felt.
 
MountainMan11 said:
@Damascus Bowie: At the TGULB there is also a place where you have to put your thumb at sabre grip- and it does not feel good for me due to the rounded profile.
And its no trolling when I say I simply do not like this feature- obviously I am the only one with this opinion.
This is a free country, nobody is forced to share my point of view.
So no need for further discussion.
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Whoa now!

Where you put your thumb in a sabre grip on a Team Gemini has nothing to do with the rounded tang design on either the TGULB or the Jack Hammer 10. :confused:

Nothing at all. o_O

Imagine someone said that they really don't like the knuckle guard design on an upcoming version of the Argonne Assault (That's our killer cool Knuckle Knife). In fact, they dislike it so much that they just gave away their Mean Street because of this same design feature. :confused:o_O . . . . See how that scenario doesn't make any sense because the Mean Street doesn't have a knuckle guard? :eek::confused:

That's the same case that you have made about the Jack Hammer 10. :confused:

Yep it's that bad!

I look forward to your call today. (419) 923-6471 . . . :cool: :thumbsup:

Let's Drink! :cool:

Jerry :D



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