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PeteyTwoPointOne said:
The proud tang would not hold me back one iota from buying a Busse/Kin model I wanted.

Conversely, it wouldn't be the deciding factor to make me buy a model I didn't want initially.

It does not impede nor interfere with using at all. It does not take away from comfort of the handle in the slightest.

If anything the proud, melted down tang may prove useful if anyone ever had their blade buried to the hilt in a chonk of wood or other strata and the only way to extract it was to strike the handle area. In such a case, the proud tang would help keep your maul/baton/hammer/rock, whatever, from coming in contact with the Micarta or G10. In that way, the proud tang can be quite useful.

Aesthetically, I like the looks of the proud tang. But I've a few more saying it turns them off. It's subjective.

As far as utility, I can see times when it could be useful-- as I mentioned a couple lines up.

One thing that is undeniable...the Nuclear Meltdown treatment on it is SUPERBLY executed. It is a smooth as a ball bearing.

It is also hard <for me> to capture on camera:

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You're absolutely right. The knives are pretty right too. ;)

Now, compare the tang of the TGULB to this

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I've played around with my buddies CR GB, and I didn't find that amount of protruding tang uncomfortable. It's a nice knife, and I like it, I just don't care for CR S30 or 35V
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
yup...INFI will have that effect on ya! ;)
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That’s a big factor for sure. But for sone reason with S30-35v much more so than other combinations of same steel, different maker, I notice big differences in edge holding. I don’t care for it from CR, from Chavez was a little better, my Surefire EX04 is quite good, my Hinderer is quite good as well, and my Grayman Satu is probably the best of my samples. I have N690 from a few different makers and it all behaves very similarly, as does 3v from a few sources, though CPKs D3v is better I’ve found.

Anecdotal, but that’s my experience with those. But I’ll not derail this any more with talk of non INFI steels *blecch* and folders (I still hold a faint glimmer of hope that one day there will be a Busse that folds).
 
Double rounding the outside perimeter is just one more way that Busse continues to raise the performance bar. :thumbsup: :cool: It is a much more expensive process in both cost and production time.

The double rounded perimeter presents many advantages over a flat perimeter. Impact resistance is through the roof when compared to a flat, sharp cornered, perimeter. :thumbsup: The double rounded corners also greatly exceed chamfered corners for impact resistance because there are still sharp corners present when edges are simply chamfered.

Of course, we subject our blades to ridiculous amounts of abuse because that's what many of our customers demand. These differences really show up when you're beating the spine with a steel hammer or a rock. You may never see a difference in impact resistance when using a branch or wooden club as a baton but the bottom line is, we have no choice but to build our knives to handle the most extreme levels of use and abuse. The advantage of having this in the handle tang region is, likewise, enormous. Not only does it serve to greatly reduce "hot spots" but it offers greatly enhanced protection to the handle when it must be batoned as well.

We introduced this concept on the nuclear meltdown treated models years ago and we have been pursuing it ever since. We have very expensive tooling custom made in order to bring this killer cool feature to you and I firmly believe that the increase in performance is well worth it.

Our reputation and warranty demand that we stay ahead of the curve. If we changed our warranty, we could change our priorities, but that's never gonna happen! :D

So, we will continue to round these outer perimeters in the foreseeable future.

I am confident that you'll come to appreciate the extra strength and comfort that this process brings to the table as well as the extra time and cost that we pour into this nuclear meltdown treatment.

Let's Drink! :thumbsup:


Jerry :D


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Jerry,

I (We? Yeah, probably many of us...) appreciate your continued effort in advancing technology and designs. I don’t believe in ONE Knife doing it all because let’s face it, that’d end my KAP (Knife Acquisition Problem), and That would be be boring. There are nice classic utilitarian designs, and it wouldn’t be bad to relaunch/reboot/revisit those every now and then. But I appreciate new offerings, new ideas, taking risks (some), and having my comfort zone pushed - even if it’s just my knife design preferences or tastes.

I appreciate your bringing the once costly (to us, purchasers) Nuclear Meltdown treatment as a standard offering without making the design prohibitively expensive, which brings that high level of performance to us all, without having to make a financial upgrade decision. :)
I’m sure streamlining the process (to include it in all knives and not just certain orders) probably simplifies things for the shop too. :rolleyes:

Personally, I’d be happy to see, and support, the rounded perimeter offered as long as its part of the performance design philosophy. :thumbsup:

Thanks!
 
Setups on CNC are money pits. If you dont see green lights, you're not making green money.

It's better to setup and run a job that's a bit more complicated and costly once than to have to stop and setup the next job after the simpler one is complete.

Less setup means more green lights which means more green money.

Good on you Jerry for thinking of us!

We appriciate it.
 
OK, I don't know about all this rounded this and this rounded that, I just want to know when you are making knives for people with full grown hands ?????

Don't get me wrong I like these cute little things, but come on I need a adult size version of the Forsaken Mistress please

and the War train is great, as it is a little bigger but come on...................

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The tang of the TGULB is much more noticeable to my eyes that it is to my hand. I've also used knives with much more of a proud tang. They're no problem either. I certainly takes away any discrepancy on where your edge is oriented.

I didn't get a JH10. But not because of the tang. It just doesn't push the right button. Nor did the Mega Ratweiler. The TGULB pushed that button... twice. So... whatever. Tons of knives out there... so many knives... so little money.
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
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I am sorry but this thing is all wrong for a fighting combat knife. I know fighting knives and this thing stinks. First, off, everyone knows fighting/combat knives are black. WTF? this thing is green gray silver. No real operator uses a green gray silver knife in combat. I mean NO ONE! Not even Freddy Mercury.

Second problem and this is a big one. This thing has no blade. It's just a handle. Who does that? A ricasso can't kill anything. You need more than just a ricasso, a blood groove and an extended tang in a combat knife.

Third, the blood groove is all wrong. Blood groove needs to be much wider and deeper. In fact it's better just on one side and double deep. Blood grooves are not for what most people think they are. They are for pouring your scotch into as you celebrate your victory over your fallen enemies. So it needs to be wide and deep, like a spoon.

But the biggest problem is this knife has no backup. I mean when you go into combat, you need lots of backup in order to do so, backup like you see below needs to come with the combat knife. I don't see any backup here. Another fail.


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Cobalt said:
I am sorry but this thing is all wrong for a fighting combat knife. I know fighting knives and this thing stinks. First, off, everyone knows fighting/combat knives are black. WTF? this thing is green gray silver. No real operator uses a green gray silver knife in combat. I mean NO ONE! Not even Freddy Mercury.

Second problem and this is a big one. This thing has no blade. It's just a handle. Who does that? A ricasso can't kill anything. You need more than just a ricasso, a blood groove and an extended tang in a combat knife.

Third, the blood groove is all wrong. Blood groove needs to be much wider and deeper. In fact it's better just on one side and double deep. Blood grooves are not for what most people think they are. They are for pouring your scotch into as you celebrate your victory over your fallen enemies. So it needs to be wide and deep, like a spoon.

But the biggest problem is this knife has no backup. I mean when you go into combat, you need lots of backup in order to do so, backup like you see below needs to come with the combat knife. I don't see any backup here. Another fail.


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Soooo. Anyone who thinks this thing stinks, here's the proof. Send your defective fighting knives to me for proper disposal. ;) I'll even do it for free.
PM me if you don't already have my address, but only if you're sending me a Busse :cool::thumbsup:
 
Cobalt said:
They are for pouring your scotch into as you celebrate your victory over your fallen enemies. So it needs to be wide and deep, like a spoon.

But the biggest problem is this knife has no backup. I mean when you go into combat, you need lots of backup in order to do so, backup like you see below needs to come with the combat knife. I don't see any backup here. Another fail.
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From the looks of your "Backup" it looks like YOU need some backup!!

Lucky for you I'm a giver and a professional backup drinker.

I've seen what you and I have done to just about that much booze in an evening and I think you need my help!

I see that bottle of Pig's Nose hiding in the back row!. . . . Yum!!!!

Talisker = Delicious!!!!!

Famous Grouse is good for hand sanitizer and that's about it!! My buddy Mike Thourot lives on that swill!

I think he drinks it because he knows it's safe from me!!!

Way too many full bottles for you to have on your own. Makes me think you've gotten soft without my yearly coaching sessions!!!!

I'll drink a few for you right now to help get you on the right path!!!

Let's Drink!

Jerry


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Jerry Busse said:

Famous Grouse is good for hand sanitizer and that's about it!! My buddy Mike Thourot lives on that swill!

Jerry

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have you ever had these special famous grouse? They are a blend of Macallan and Highland par of those ages.
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a dime? I knew I'd regret that damn bouncy ball purchase:(
Oh well, I get paid again next week.:thumbsup::cool:
 
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