Quick!!! . . . Look At The Edge Of A Dime!!!!. . . .

I was really surprised when I got the TGULB with the proud tang and I like it in the hand as that's naturally rounded. I got a grin when I saw the photo's of the new JH.
 
You know what, to give him some credit, he might not be the only one who hates the rounded and proud tang. I know someone else who absolutely hates it: my bank account after I bought more. :rolleyes:

You know what's great about A PROUD ROUNDED tang? You can machine/grind it down to flush if you hate it. (But you can't add a proud radius to a flush flat tang)

Don't like the unreliable rounded thumb rest? Mod it! You don't like fighting with it? Well... DON'T BUY IT. I'd say that given your proud fighting resume, shouldn't/wouldn't you know what knife design would work for your fighting style/preference before buying the knife?

Jerry, you guys can't please "everyone" (trolls), and people should be able to discern what they like and not buy what they don't. Not everyone has to buy everything Busse (including Swamp Rat and SYKCO) makes... Like I have been :confused::confused:

If someone can buy a knife with design features that were heavily FEATURED and ADVERTISED before release and proceed to trash-talk those features enough to "give it away" (too rich to sell the knife), then they're resourceful enough to get the knife custom modified to fit their liking. Or sell it and get something else that works for them.

I wouldn't lose sleep over this troll.
 
What is the reason for the tang protruding? Is it an advantage in some way or just corner cutting? Lol

When I saw the pics I thought “uhhhhh, why the hell is the tang not flush with the scales?” And in the same post I noticed how the new CNC capabilities, etc were being touted???

New CNC stuff is great! New handle textures and stuff to play around with, etc. Since that’s the case, it should be a simple matter to line the scales up with the blade tang. :rolleyes:

I seem to remember it being a HUGE deal with the original ergo knives over the scales not being flush with the tang. People started sending their knives in in droves to be fixed. To the point where a bunch of the ergos came from the factory with the tangs sanded back to meet the scales and peeled spines so people would stop complaining.

I’m sorry, but a non-flush tang is BS. It’s not comfortable, and there’s no reason for it IMO.
 
No need to bring contention to the BBQ.

An ass for every seat. A Busse for every hand.


I've handled my fair share of Busse. The Boss knows how to build, and test a knife. There are some that are not ideal for my hand size. I'm a 2xl hand. But some are thicker than I like. Some are a bit thin. Some of my favorites are either too big or small for others.

But design and testing Boss has all the expertise and then some.

I'd love to try one of the new designs.

I think it is important to note this is not a greatly exposed tang. It will mate with the handle nicely.

I've held some expensive knives with tangs that were much too proud. Not wholly uncomfortable until you hit something hard.


Don"t worry. I promise....if you don't want on....no one at Busse will make you....


If you get one, and it is not quite right for you....you will have no trouble moving it on...

Unless it is a monstrosity like the Nuclear Sea Horse

....or a little monster like a Shiva Rex (not my cup of tea..but even they really have a strong following and sell fast).
 
Meh, no contention here. I’m just wondering what’s the advantage? What could possibly be a benefit of leaving the tang proud of the scales?

I’ve been around a minute or two, and I’ve never, EVER seen it to be something good. It’s always complained about, and I know I hate it personally. It irks me to no end , and I see it as a mark of an unfinished or “lazy” knife.

So, I’m asking honestly - why?
 
Does it protrude like the pic on the left or the right? Or something else?

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The one on the right doesn’t “protrude”. It’s blended into the handle at least. Stuff like pic #1 is an automatic nope for me.
 
I Love my TGULB.
I see this new designed feature as smart. It saves time fitting handles, and if you baton a handle out of place, the knife will still be comfortable to work with, until you get it fixed up.
 
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PeteyTwoPointOne PeteyTwoPointOne in this post showed some close ups of the TGULB tang and handle. It looks pretty flush / blended to me. Anyway I look forward to seeing in person when my JH10 arrives.
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I understood it as more of a blend of the two. Not as pronounced as #1, but more like a slightly pushed out #2. Like a Chris Reeve Green Beret but even less proud of the scales. We’re talking about a radiused 48/1000” spread out over .22 width.

Here is .048 in relation to a Bic ballpoint pen. Imagine the height of a ballpoint pen, but .22 wide. If there was ever a case of mountains made out of molehills, this would be it.

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The enhanced CNC abilities Jerry refers to allow for a precise fit of the edge of the scales to the tangent of the round edge of the tang, thereby eliminating the time and cost of individually hand fitting the tang of every knife to it’s scales. And this is apparently even less of a difference between the edge of scale and tang radius than the TGULB. All this bench racing over less than .050 of radiused protrusion (if the tang was left square and stuck out .050, I’d be in the other camp) is going to be proven to be irrelevant when JH10 hits customers and gets put to use. AntDog AntDog , if you get one, and can convince me that it’s legitimately causing you an issue during use, not just finger f***ing it on the couch, don’t even bother Jerry about it, I’ll trade you something out of my collection in exchange.

This streamlining in the production sequence as a whole, moving forward if it’s on all future releases as it sounds like, can only be viewed as a positive thing, unless fighting evolution and economics solely for tradition’s sake. And as a stalwart champion of the old school Busse, even I can see that this is a step forward, not backwards.
 
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The one on the right doesn’t “protrude”. It’s blended into the handle at least. Stuff like pic #1 is an automatic nope for me.
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If pic 1 were an accurate representation I'd agree with you. Its not so much a protrusion as it is edge elimination. Its actually as flush as can be with an edgeless tang profile. Pic 2 isnt exactly right either but its closer, except that it should be shaped like the edge of a circle with a radius equal to the length of the knife.

Its actually pretty mind blowing what Jerry did here, imho.
 
Why are people getting all worked up about this? Like JACKMANDU JACKMANDU mentioned, the Mega Ratweiler has a blended protruding tang..., no advertisement, no complains. The TGULB had the SAME proposed protruded radiused tang, again no complaints, and lots of praises about how nice it feels.

What's going on? Are we getting worked up by trolls?

This protruding tang isn't an "ill-fitted" protrusion, with sharp corners that'll dig into your hand. This will have the corners of the scales mate with the corners of the tang's radius. Not a tangential blend, but a mate. That means even if the scale gets knocked out of alignment, there are NO SHARP CORNERS. Just like the famed nuclear meltdown treatment.

What people are doing here are akin to calling purposefully designed partial serrations "a bunch of edge chips". Although both are irregularity in an otherwise straight edge, one is a design features with a purpose, while the other is obviously I defect/damage/fault. The two are not the same.

The only POTENTIAL downsize with the radiused treatment is that there are no sharp corners on the spine to scrape a fire steel. I'm fine with that. It's easy enough to use something else for that. Or of you need to, sharpen a section of the spine yourself for that. Moreover, this is a "fighter/combat" design, not a camper.
 
You have to hold a TGULB to understand. It feels perfect in hand. I was just looking at and holding my TGLB and TGULB side by side. They are both perfect in different ways. I can’t figure out what the problem is. The TGULB is sweet! This JH10 is gonna be cool too. Variety is what’s so great about my Busse collection. A collection of knives with the same finish and the same handle material, all with flush tangs and flat thumb rests, wouldn’t be very fun would it?
 
The proud tang would not hold me back one iota from buying a Busse/Kin model I wanted.

Conversely, it wouldn't be the deciding factor to make me buy a model I didn't want initially.

It does not impede nor interfere with using at all. It does not take away from comfort of the handle in the slightest.

If anything the proud, melted down tang may prove useful if anyone ever had their blade buried to the hilt in a chonk of wood or other strata and the only way to extract it was to strike the handle area. In such a case, the proud tang would help keep your maul/baton/hammer/rock, whatever, from coming in contact with the Micarta or G10. In that way, the proud tang can be quite useful.

Aesthetically, I like the looks of the proud tang. But I've heard a few more saying it turns them off. It's subjective.

As far as utility, I can see times when it could be useful-- as I mentioned a couple lines up.

Nuclear Meltdown treatment is a Custom Shop level option. Solicit a few estimates on having your .45 melted down or rolling over the spine on a knife you have from a custom guy. It will be pretty eye-opening on what kind of VALUE we're getting when Jerry offers NM as a standard, included feature. :)

One thing that is undeniable...the Nuclear Meltdown treatment on the proud tang is SUPERBLY :thumbsup:executed. It is a smooth as a ball bearing. :cool:


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