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R.A.T.

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Someone moved the QuikClot thread from here and it is something that belongs here because of what we do. Feel free to re-post in this thread and hopefully it wont get moved again. Here's a ink to Combat Gauze which is different than the sponge that many were talking about. All the medics I have talked to suggest buying gauze instead of the sponge since there is more material to pac a wound with:http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05168/search/-Combat-Gauze-(Non-Military-Use)----------------
 
Thanks for re-posting that Jeff. That gauze is great stuff, I have some in each of my packs. Gotta love Chinook Med., they're great people and carry everything under the sun! I've sent more than a few bucks their way!:D
 
Why the other thread got moved I have no idea. Our forum here is as much about training as it is about knives. Hugh Coffee, one of our instructors, even teaches a class on QuikClot and haemostatics so the post is VERY relative in this forum. Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled discussion.

My current carry in my pack is Combat Gauze with pressure dressings. I also carry the Quikclot sponges in my gear. Typically I carry the 50g packs but I always carry two of these since you may have an exit wound as well as an entry wound. That's what I like about the gauze, you have a lot mroe to work with than the sponges.
 
R.A.T. said:
My current carry in my pack is Combat Gauze with pressure dressings. I also carry the Quikclot sponges in my gear. Typically I carry the 50g packs but I always carry two of these since you may have an exit wound as well as an entry wound. That's what I like about the gauze, you have a lot mroe to work with than the sponges.
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I carry the same thing, a pack of Combat Gauze, 2 50g packs of sponges, 6" Chinook trauma dressing, and more than enough other pressure dressings. People usually only seem to think about an entrance wound for gun shots, but if it goes through the exit is usually far worst. Your right, the gauze is a little more expensive but you get a hell of a lot more to work with.
 
I've been harping on adding trauma elements to first aid kits for some time. I can understand why commercial kits don't do it (with the shelf life, training, liability,etc.) on haemostatics but any person that hikes, hunts are deals with knives should ALWAYS add a trauma module to their preppy little commercial "discomfort kit". I can deal with a cut, scrape or headache in the field without much worry but major bleeding is something you can't deal with using the contents of most first-aid kits.
 
I've been looking for some QuickClot at a good price for my primary first-aid kit.
I'd also like to pick up some Dermabond (slightly better than Superglue).
 
Guyon, you can do a search and find a lot of people selling the QuikClot brand but I've always found Chinook to be about as good as anyone when it comes to medical supplies.
 
Guyon said:
I've been looking for some QuickClot at a good price for my primary first-aid kit.
I'd also like to pick up some Dermabond (slightly better than Superglue).
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I'd also really take a look at Chinook Medical Guyon, they carry all the types of Quikclot and they have Dermabond also! They have great service!
 
Oops, I forgot to use the "Question for fans of ESEE gear..." preamble to my original Quikclot post to keep it here:foot:

Chinook Medical looks like a great place/site, I'll definately get some stuff from them in the future, thanks for the link.
 
R.A.T. said:
Someone moved the QuikClot thread from here and it is something that belongs here because of what we do.
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Jeff, I moved it back for you and your forum members.

(Wasn't the one who moved it originally though, so you guys can all put down those sharpened knives and bludgeons...;))
 
adaman04 said:
You guys have any experience with the H-Dressing. Pro ably has other names.
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Yeah it's pretty much an Isreali combat dressing that uses a different method to cinch the dressing tight. Think of the H as a cleat to tie up a boat, same idea when securing an H-Dressing. They work great and well worth having!
 
Blues said:
Jeff, I moved it back for you and your forum members.

(Wasn't the one who moved it originally though, so you guys can all put down those sharpened knives and bludgeons...;))
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Muchas gracias, amigo!

And damn we were just getting wound up and getting the vigilantes together to go burn someone's house down. Was even recruiting the Beckerheads to help!
 
333rm said:
Yeah it's pretty much an Isreali combat dressing that uses a different method to cinch the dressing tight. Think of the H as a cleat to tie up a boat, same idea when securing an H-Dressing. They work great and well worth having!
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The H dressings I have here are also pretty large and have a lot of extra guaze on them which is a real plus for wound care, IMO, but takes up more room in the pack.
 
My apologies to the Super Mods for me jumping to conclusions on this. After discussing it in the backend of BFs I found out it was a simple mistake on the move.
 
Appreciate the good info I have been working on expanding all my FAK's with good trauma supplies.
 
Decklin said:
Appreciate the good info I have been working on expanding all my FAK's with good trauma supplies.
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We talk about a lot of survival techniques here but adding some trauma supplies to your FAK is perhaps the easiest and best thing anyone could do to immediatley raise their survivability or others that you may happen up on. Think about it, what's the one thing that will kill you in a vehicle accident if the blunt force trauma doesn't kill you immediately? Bleeding to death. So, if you frequent as many out of the way back roads and areas as I do, having access to good trauma components may mean saving someone's life.
 
I keep meaning to buy this for my personal pack but as a NJ EMT I am technically not able to use it on patients and even though I may save a life using it, I may also be sued if they pass, no matter if the quick clot had anything to do with it. It is one of the substances we are not cleared to use.

Kinda crappy, but the law is the law and people have been sued for less.

Will take this opportunity to get some to apply on myself.
 
I work at a vets office in the evenings and I ask the vet questions at times about surgical trauma related stuff. She thinks I'm a kook for wanting to have a good first aid kit with things like quick clot, dermabond etc. She doesn't seem to think any of things are needed even when I mention hunting/firearm accidents or knife wounds etc when out hunting or working with a friend in south Texas 40-50 miles from a hospital after 20 minutes of driving on a 4 wheeler to get to the truck. It's not my job to convince her but she could be a wealth of knowledge for me personally if she would stop being judgmental about it and just answer my questions. My wife seems to share her sentiments. It's rather frustrating
 
Jeff,

Thanks for the link to Chinook. I have QuikClot in my first aid and BOB kits, but after doing some reading about it am still unclear on when and when not to use it. I have heard it should only be used for the most serious bleeding, since it is very difficult to clean it out of a wound once used. For example, if you were in a survival situation and say received a deep puncture to the hand (not life threatening) should you try and dress it with traditional means before breaking out the QuickClot? Or, does it all really depend on the environment you are in?
 
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