Ramblings by Yvsa.

I know what you mean about ebay. Some of these guys have programs that automatically outbid everyone in the last seconds of the auction. Just lost a bid on a Norlund Hudson Bay with the original paper stoicker on it by $1 at the last minute. Frustrating.
There is plenty of small minded people in the world. Unfortunately they sometimes become dangerous. Time we stop taking it in the rear and stand up to this crap. IMHO.
Terry
 
Howard Wallace said:
Sniping


I used to use a pay program.

Now I use this one online. http://www.auctionstealer.com/home.cfm

You get 3 free snipes a week and that is enough for me.


Nice knife, Yvsa!
Thanks Howard, and thanks for the link! Maybe I'll have some luck now. The one knife I lost had to be due to a sniper program. I should've known something of the sort existed, didn't even think.:rolleyes: ;) :D
 
Your response is well taken---Yvsa

I see so much unwarranted venomous "Christian bashing" going on, especially in the mainstream media, that I am of the opinion that to find some jerk doing something stupid and thoughtless and to point out that that person is a "Christian" is nothing more than a COVERT/SNEAKY/UNDERHANDED way of taking a shot at all Christians. Call me paranoid if you must.

I met a real Indian a--hole once upon a time but I do not now label all people with Indian heritage as jerks and I do not make a point of posting about ---(with emphasis on their Indianity)----certain stupid,ignorant,lazy,apathetic,race hustling,white hating,welfare sucking people, who I might think are Indian, as subjects of my contempt.

There is no cause to be offended if there was no intent in heart or mind to condemn many wonderful people who choose Christianity or Buddhism as their creed. I personally have found most Christians to be tolerant and compassionate people who live exemplary lives.

If you think or feel this Christian bashing agenda is only a filament of imagination, then just listen to the new leader/spokesperson of the Democratic National Party-- one Howard Dean. He's a prime example and is said to be by many,the chosen representative of approximnately 1/2 of the population of this country. Which leaves many in a state of :confused:
 
Alfred said:
In Argentina; The principal indigenous peoples are the Quechua of the northwest and the Mapuche in Patagonia.

Your knife is made here..
http://www.canejoargentino.com.ar/

My grandfather was Quechua Native and gaucho by trade. My father told me many stories about my grandfather... and "his" ways, hehe...

Your knife is found here..

http://www.canejoargentino.com.ar/puniales-mod-esp.htm

Nice find!!!

Coyote
Coyote thank you so much for the links!!!! I've wanted a "real" Gaucho knife for many, many, years.:D
I am delighted with it although I haven't got around to sharpening it yet. I could do it with a file but I'm lazy and have a perfectly decent belt sander in the back room.;)

Perhaps you can tell us why they really do come unsharpened and what the handles are woven from?
I suspect the material is woven over wood much like the ndn peyote bead work is done over an object like a dance stick, rattle handle, or even a Bic lighter.:cool: :D ;)
 
Yvsa,

Before you get around to sharpening, you may want to read this, from http://realtraveladventures.com/february2005/argentine_estacion__destination_where__cowboy_tradition_of_the_americas_began.htm

[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]The Cuchillo[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]The "cuchillo" (knife) is a tool for all purpose and it is the weapon of "gauchos" and people of the plain. It has a triangular blade and a cutting edge on one side. It was used to slaughter and skin, to cut "guascas", to eat. The knife is a tool made of steel iron with one cutting edge. It has a blade of different sizes and proportions. This blade ends in a tip and its opposite end is fixed into a handle made of metal, wood or bone. There were also knives fixed into stones or leather rings, sometimes coated with woven threads of raw leather. The knives did not have "gavilán", they only have a kind of knot between the blade and the handle called "button of the blade."[/font]

[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Parts that make the knife, their derivations or varieties and the sheath:[/font]


[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Blade: The blade of the knife consists of a tip, the cutting edge and the spine. The tip is the sharp end of the tool. The cutting edge is the sharpened part of the knife. It extends to the whole blade, and it is more delicate when it reaches the tip. The last third part near the handle is rather thick and it is called "gavilán." The gaucho used this third part of the cutting edge as an axe.[/font]


[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Spine: The spine of the knives is the thick part opposite the cutting edge. In some knives, the spine was also sharpened and so this part was called "contrafilo" (opposite edge). The spine usually has carved patterns, just as drawings or for stopping a cut during a fight.[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]The blade of the knife is fixed into the handle through a pivot or rod.[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]The blade and the handle are separated by a piece of metal, of a horizontal shape known as "empatilladura", with its "gavilán" (in the daggers and "facones") and buttons (in the knives and "puñales"). So, the "gavilán" is a fitting that is fixed in the handle to defend oneself from the strikes of the enemy.[/font]


[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Gavilán: Straight "gavilán" is the part of the knife that is fixed transversally between the handle and the blade. Each end of this part usually finishes in a button, in a tip, or in the shape of the heads of lions or snakes. [/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]An "s" shaped "gavilán" is the transversal piece in the shape of that letter. A croissant shaped "gavilán" is the one that has this piece in the shape of an arch or horn, and whose ends look at the blade of the knife. The "gavilán" that consists of an oval piece of metal, transversal to the blade, does not reduce the power of the weapon, but it does stop the strikes of the enemy.[/font]


[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]The sheath it is a cover made of leather, metal, bone or other material, that is used for keeping the steel blades. It consists of three parts:[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]-Body of the sheath: it is the cover that protects the weapon. It can be made of tanned leather, metal, etc. The ones that are made of metal may have engraved or carved patterns. [/font]


[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]-The grip, with its "boquilla" (opening) is the part where the weapon is introduced to put it away. The "boquilla" has in its upper border a triangular fitting that is used to keep the sheath fixed to one's waist, so that the sheath does not slip. This fitting is called "agarradera" (grip) or "gancho" (hook).[/font]


[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]-The tip is the lower end of the sheath. It ends in a rounded shape so that it prevents the carrier to hurt himself. It substitutes the "facón"(gaucho knife); it is a weapon with a wide blade, about 25 centimeters long without "gavilán". It has a cutting edge and the tip is upwards, the spine of the blade next to the handle is wide. It is an ideal tool for the man of the plain, it is carried as the "facón", over the kidneys, with the handle next to the right elbow. It is a weapon similar to the knife but with a wider blade, the width is kept almost to the middle of the tip so the cutting edge makes a sharp curve (called belly for its similarity to that part of the body) that is its main characteristic.[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]It is a knife wit a small blade that substitutes the "facón" when the last one, because of its size, is very uncomfortable to use. It was used to castrate, grind the tobacco and for an endless list of the most varied uses. It was carried on the right flank, passing over the front part of the "tirador" (suspender), next to the "rastra".[/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]A word derived from "faca", which means "big knife". It has a very long blade, with the cutting edge on one side and a small opposite edge at the beginning of the spine. It has a very sharp tip. It always had a "gavilán", big or small, straight, in the shape of an "s" or of a croissant, according to the owner's preference. Some of them were seventy -five centimeters long. Sometimes the "facón" was substituted by the dagger. It is similar to the "puñal", and bigger than the "facón", it has a cutting edge and an opposite edge, that the gauchos usually made from old bayonets and rests of swords. It used to have a kind of longitudinal conduit on both faces, that the men of the plain justified them as appropriate to facilitate the bloodletting. It was similar to the "facón" but very big, the blade would reach a length of 80 cm, it was used to hunt, as a weapon or to kill animals. Due to its size it was impossible to carry it on one's body so they carried it in the "caronas"(saddlecloth) of the saddle, there comes its name.[/font]
[/font]
 
Coyote thank you so much for the links!!!! I've wanted a "real" Gaucho knife for many, many, years.

You are most welcome :) and...I can relate to that! I am still in want, lol.

I am delighted with it although I haven't got around to sharpening it yet. I could do it with a file but I'm lazy and have a perfectly decent belt sander in the back room.

Perhaps you can tell us why they really do come unsharpened and what the handles are woven from?
I suspect the material is woven over wood much like the ndn peyote bead work is done over an object like a dance stick, rattle handle, or even a Bic lighter.


Your knife, http://www.canejoargentino.com.ar/puniales-mod-esp.htm
2) Mod. MC114: Guarda Pampa, Pluma boton pollerita plata con
vaina cuero crudo.


Guarda Pampa is the Native Motiff, traditional Mapuche in Patagonia.

Pluma is the primitive Ostrich Feather, used for reins and delicate clothing.
It is weaved with Ostrich's filament, sinenew.

Boton, a piece of hardwood.

The collar is made of silver.


The sheath is rawhide.


The blade, I am not sure.
The company says that your particular knife is made of silver.

Howard wrote a fine response, and articulation to the cuchillo, was normally iron.
I could send the company an e-mail and ask for specs.
want me to?

Coyote
 
The Cowboy Baptist
==================
A cowboy walks into a bar in Texas, orders three mugs of beer and sits in the back room, drinking a sip out of each one in turn.

When he finishes them, he comes back to the bar and orders three more. The bartender approaches and tells him, "You know, a mug goes flat after I draw it so it would taste better if you bought just one at a time."

The cowboy replies, "Well, you see, I have two brothers. One is in Australia, the other is in Dublin and I'm in Texas.
When we all left Wyoming, we promised that we'd drink this way to remember the days we were together. So I drink one for each of my brothers and one for myself."

The bartender admits that this is a nice custom and leaves it there. The cowboy becomes a regular in the bar, and always drinks the same way. He orders three mugs and drinks them in turn.

One day, he comes in and orders only two mugs! All the regulars take notice and fall silent. When he comes back to the bar for the second round, the bartender says, "I don't want to intrude on your grief, but I wanted to offer my condolences on your loss."

The cowboy looks quite puzzled for a moment, then a light dawns and he laughs. "Oh, no, everybody's just fine,"
he explains...
"It's just that my wife and I joined the Baptist Church and obviously I had to quit drinking.





Hasn't affected my brothers though."

<VBESEG> :D ;)
 
This is the one I snagged...

Opinions more than welcome.

gaucho.jpg
 
Alfred said:
The blade, I am not sure.
The company says that your particular knife is made of silver.

Howard wrote a fine response, and articulation to the cuchillo, was normally iron.
I could send the company an e-mail and ask for specs.
want me to?

Coyote
Thanks Coyote but no need to go that far.:D I know the blade is of steel albeit not very hard. I figure that's because the Gauchos would rather sharpen their knives to their own preferences.
I figure they're not as hard because of the limited tools one might have way out in the country and a rock may be all that's needed to sharpen the edge if needed.

There's still a lot of places in the world where the technology isn't up to what we're used to and a hard knife would be worthless once it became dull because there would be no way to sharpen it.

The old trade knives traded to the ndns and the mountain men came dull as well so they could be sharpened to the individual's preference.
What is now called a "chisel grind" isn't new as many of the mountain men prefered to sharpen their knives that way.:D
 
Thanks Coyote but no need to go that far. I know the blade is of steel albeit not very hard. I figure that's because the Gauchos would rather sharpen their knives to their own preferences.
I figure they're not as hard because of the limited tools one might have way out in the country and a rock may be all that's needed to sharpen the edge if needed.

There's still a lot of places in the world where the technology isn't up to what we're used to and a hard knife would be worthless once it became dull because there would be no way to sharpen it.

The old trade knives traded to the ndns and the mountain men came dull as well so they could be sharpened to the individual's preference.
What is now called a "chisel grind" isn't new as many of the mountain men prefered to sharpen their knives that w
ay.


True words Yvsa
:p
 
Wow...*no* comments on the one I chose. I guess ya'll just don't want to hurt my feelings...

.
 
Nasty?

whaddaya want? It is beautiful, lovely sheath, flawless execution, marvelous example of the genre of knife, its magnificence is only eclipsed by the wonder of its owner, who in turn, is only eclipsed by the splendor of his spouse.

Please, please, tell me more about its balance, how it feels in your hand, do you wear a flat-brimmed hat, canted to one side, and swagger about the neighborhood?

Did you get a bolo? Have you ridden a Paso Fino?







muttermuttermutter
 
Nasty said:
This is the one I snagged...

Opinions more than welcome.

gaucho.jpg
There's no cho.... OMG, it has a great big cho. How did I miss that?

Never heard of this kami "Mission". He must be new.


Ad Astra :footinmou
 
cliff355 said:
I'm getting the impression that your sweat lodge is quite a bit different from the sauna I was marched into repeatedly in my early youth. That was by no means a spiritual experience and I don't recall ever sweating in there - my pores were roasted shut.
Yep Cliff it's a lot different than a sauna. Our Lodge is a Rolls Royce Lodge. Carpeted floor over dirt, brick lined rock pit for the Grandfather Rocks, built seven-sided as in similarity to a Cherokee Council House, Hinged door, the works.:rolleyes: ;) :D
The Grandfather Rocks are heated in a sacred Fire and brought in. Water is doused on the red hot rocks a little at a time and the heat starts building.
When it's a really Hot Lodge it is so hot that it hurts to move any part of your body and it's hard to get a deep breath.
A whole new definition of Hot for most folks.;) :cool: :D

A friend of ours said some Lakotas took a thermometer into a Lodge and tied it to the top right over the rock pit.
When they took it down after the Sweat the temperature the thermometer recorded was over 600 degrees.
I believe it after having been burned instantly on my wrist by the steam off the water doused on the rocks.
In the early, early, days when the Inipi was first introduced to the people the Lakota medicine men were the only ones allowed to Sweat as it was considered too sacred for anyone else.
Rawhide strips were tied to their ankles so if they died in the Lodge they could be pulled out.

I've been in a Lakota Lodge and they were hot but not any hotter than ours.
However I did not go into the last Sweat which was a warrior's Lodge.
All of the rocks used during the series of Sweats held at the spiritual gathering were taken into the Lodge all at once! :eek:
A nephew set in though and told me later he never wanted out of anything that bad before but since Grandfather Swallow who was 90+ years old was setting without any apprent discomfort right next to him there was no way he was gonna leave.:rolleyes: ;) :D
 
Mine is convex ground now but not quite finished yet.

Nasty's is prettier than mine, he got the Rolls Royce Gaucho Knife.:rolleyes: :p ;) :D :cool:
 
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