Rambo V Knife?

An ESEE 5. I want to a watch him cut his way out of a chopper

Oh and I hope he's heading back to vietnam in this one...
 
AntDog said:
Sly and his "peeps" stiffed him on the original knife. Refused to pay.
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I've always heard that Stallone asked Moran to make 6 knives for free for the movie, and Moran refused and they went their separate ways.

Never heard that Moran made knives he didn't get paid for????
 
What I heard relative to Bill Moran was that Sly visited Bill at his shop in Maryland, talked knives, and requested a special design for the movie in a very short production time frame. I have heard the "free" part too, but don't know if that is true. Moran told him he couldn't produce the knife(s) that quickly with all his other orders and Sly got mad at him and left. Sly considered himself rather important. What can I say? Moran had orders backed up for years at the time of his death. I don't know when Moran's popularity really kicked off, but I suspect it was in the 1970's. I remember seeing advertisements for his knives in Gun Digest Annuals at around $100 or so. For collectors..... now THAT was a good investment considering the last knife sold for over $10,000 (auction at BLADE) and you can commonly get 10K for his blades now by serious collectors.
 
Bear Claw Chris Lappe said:
I've always heard that Stallone asked Moran to make 6 knives for free for the movie, and Moran refused and they went their separate ways.

Never heard that Moran made knives he didn't get paid for????
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I was always under impression that he made the knives (but not 6 of them) and duder refused to pay. It may not have been Bill Moran I'm thinking of though..... It's been too many years and too many beers ago man.

Maybe it was Lile or even Gil Hibben? Can't recall.
 
AntDog said:
I was always under impression that he made the knives (but not 6 of them) and duder refused to pay. It may not have been Bill Moran I'm thinking of though..... It's been too many years and too many beers ago man.

Maybe it was Lile or even Gil Hibben? Can't recall.
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http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1134174-sylvester-stallone/page2

He tried to stiff Bill Moran for a half dozen of Bill's ST-23 fighters, which was his first choice for the First Blood movie. He visited Bill's shop in Middletown Maryland, (quite a story of his character in itself) and told Bill that he'd like 6 of them to use in the filming of the movie. Bill said fine, and he'd get to work on them immediately. But Bill wanted 50% down to start with, and Stallone told him that he wasn't going to pay Bill, that Bill was going to make them for free for the privilege of having Moran knives in his movie. What Bill told Stallone was not as polite, and Stallone left Bill Moran's shop a disappointed man. He couldn't understand why Moran wasn't falling on his knees to kiss his a$$. Bill Moran never seemed to care that his friend Jimmy Lile got the job. Moran was already backordered the rest of his life.

On the day that Stallone visited Bill Moran's shop, a few of Bill's friends were hanging out there. This was a normal thing, as Bill's shop was sort of a gathering place of like minded folks. A big towncar pulls up outside, and a guy, one of the body guards for Stallone, walks into Bill's shop and tells everyone there that they have to leave, that Mr. Stallone is here to talk to Mr. Moran. Bill took a bit of offense at an unknown person telling his friends to leave, and told the bodyguard that it was his shop, and he, Bill, would say who comes and goes. If Mr. Stallone wanted to come in, that was okay, but if he didn't, that was okay as well. Bodyguard went back to the car and reported this to the passenger in the backseat. Stallone came into the shop, and ignored everyones greeting like a rude a$$, and then propositioned Bill. Things went south from there.
 
That's the version I've seen the most, they just didn't agree on the deal and that was it. Nobody got cheated or stiffed, Stallone just wanted them for free and got told no.
 
Sly, if you reading this; it's time folders come into play
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Would also love in this movie, if at some point Rambo runs through the woods and goes past an old man sitting on a bank fishing, and after he runs by, the old man looks up and it's Brian Dennehy. :)
 
snooka said:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1134174-sylvester-stallone/page2

He tried to stiff Bill Moran for a half dozen of Bill's ST-23 fighters, which was his first choice for the First Blood movie. He visited Bill's shop in Middletown Maryland, (quite a story of his character in itself) and told Bill that he'd like 6 of them to use in the filming of the movie. Bill said fine, and he'd get to work on them immediately. But Bill wanted 50% down to start with, and Stallone told him that he wasn't going to pay Bill, that Bill was going to make them for free for the privilege of having Moran knives in his movie. What Bill told Stallone was not as polite, and Stallone left Bill Moran's shop a disappointed man. He couldn't understand why Moran wasn't falling on his knees to kiss his a$$. Bill Moran never seemed to care that his friend Jimmy Lile got the job. Moran was already backordered the rest of his life.

On the day that Stallone visited Bill Moran's shop, a few of Bill's friends were hanging out there. This was a normal thing, as Bill's shop was sort of a gathering place of like minded folks. A big towncar pulls up outside, and a guy, one of the body guards for Stallone, walks into Bill's shop and tells everyone there that they have to leave, that Mr. Stallone is here to talk to Mr. Moran. Bill took a bit of offense at an unknown person telling his friends to leave, and told the bodyguard that it was his shop, and he, Bill, would say who comes and goes. If Mr. Stallone wanted to come in, that was okay, but if he didn't, that was okay as well. Bodyguard went back to the car and reported this to the passenger in the backseat. Stallone came into the shop, and ignored everyones greeting like a rude a$$, and then propositioned Bill. Things went south from there.
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Thanks for the clarification! I had heard a bunch of different versions of that story over the years. I think it's funny Bill Moran told him to shove off.
 
Not sure if it was before or after Stallone visited Moran, but he also approached Randall for the same type of arrangement. That was a dead end too.
 
TAH said:
Not sure if it was before or after Stallone visited Moran, but he also approached Randall for the same type of arrangement. That was a dead end too.
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May have also happened with the dealer that commissioned Microtech Halo V's in red for "Bullet to the Head". Whatever knife ends up being used, I hope it gets paid for upfront. :)
 
AntDog said:
Thanks for the clarification! I had heard a bunch of different versions of that story over the years. I think it's funny Bill Moran told him to shove off.
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Well, crazy knife nuts do make a habit of paying extraordinary prices for knives that get shown in popular movies...
 
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