Random Thought Thread

Ever have a knife jump out the sheath, not only once but twice?

Hitting the concrete. Lc200n. I get the tale about it meaning a person is going to visit me. Or the fish ain't biting.

In the meantime during my knife jumping off my belt.

Me and another guy had to pour our friend back into the truck. Dude lost a leg so he's on pharmaceuticals. He started tipping the whiskey. Slamming the beer. Smoking the smoke.

He was about to go lay out in the yard. Not in this neighborhood. He can do that at his house. (This isn't at my house. A third house down the street.)

Moaning and groaning. This fool starts puking. After we sprayed him with the garden hose. Hurl...Huurrl.

Haven't heard anything about him today. He's either dead or the hangover is kicking his buttocks.
 
Murphjd25 said:
And gimminy Christmas what happened in here yesterday? 😳
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It was like the scene from this documentary, but somehow more messy.

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ferider said:
How bad was your winter ? WY lost about 80% of its blacktail population last winter. Elk are fine (they were fed ...).
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Murphjd25 said:
Went chasing blacktail today. Saw lots of tracks but not a single doe or buck. I’m in the right spot.

And gimminy Christmas what happened in here yesterday? 😳
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I’ve only made it out a few days. But even my cameras aren’t picking them up. I’m on 80 acres of private land that hasn’t had a buck taken in the last 3 years. We had the harshest snow storm in 100 years last winter. But I’m still seeing young 2 or so year old bucks around. A lot of the other people in my area are having similar situations. I’m baffled. I’m used to not seeing too many out during the day but at least get some at night on the cameras. I would think if it was the winter it would have gotten the fawns first but I still see them around.
 
I’ve got 9 days left , our season closes on Halloween. Then we get a week in late November but it’s usually to snowy. We had a big winter last year but it wasn’t huge, I haven’t heard of the blacktail population going down. Guys are still harvesting nice bucks.
 
We had lots of winter kill of moose the last 2 years. Really crappy this past winter but the wolves enjoyed it. We have some nice healthy moose on our property that are doing well, and I am going to do my best to make some snowmachine packed trails around for them to browse easier this year.

Good luck on y’alls hunts. Stay safe.
 
Nathan the Machinist Nathan the Machinist i'd love to hear your thoughts on this if you have time.

Here this in the random thought thread incase anyone else has any insight, experience or thoughts on this.
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I know a lot of time and effort goes into skeletonizing the scales to get the balance right. It'd be much easier and cheaper not to skeletonize it.

I am wondering how much does this affect its toughness? It mustn't be enough where you Nathan, think that it is not worth the better balance.
But also, i've seen a youtuber who stupidly and unrealistically hates any blade skeletonized and says it they are weak. I don't buy into this. But then he took a rock and dropped it on a ¼inch thick elmax blade handle and in the 2nd go, it snapped.
0.25 inch elmax and it broke like nothing!

This is unrealistic and why you'd ever need to do that to a knife I do not know. But I also couldnt believe how easy it broke.

So loved to hear your thoughts Nathan and or fellow c.o.c.ks
 
XtianAus said:
Nathan the Machinist Nathan the Machinist i'd love to hear your thoughts on this if you have time.

Here this in the random thought thread incase anyone else has any insight, experience or thoughts on this.
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I know a lot of time and effort goes into skeletonizing the scales to get the balance right. It'd be much easier and cheaper not to skeletonize it.

I am wondering how much does this affect its toughness? It mustn't be enough where you Nathan, think that it is not worth the better balance.
But also, i've seen a youtuber who stupidly and unrealistically hates any blade skeletonized and says it they are weak. I don't buy into this. But then he took a rock and dropped it on a ¼inch thick elmax blade handle and in the 2nd go, it snapped.
0.25 inch elmax and it broke like nothing!

This is unrealistic and why you'd ever need to do that to a knife I do not know. But I also couldnt believe how easy it broke.

So loved to hear your thoughts Nathan and or fellow c.o.c.ks
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#notnathan

Don’t watch YouTube knife experts.
 
XtianAus said:
Nathan the Machinist Nathan the Machinist i'd love to hear your thoughts on this if you have time.

Here this in the random thought thread incase anyone else has any insight, experience or thoughts on this.
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I know a lot of time and effort goes into skeletonizing the scales to get the balance right. It'd be much easier and cheaper not to skeletonize it.

I am wondering how much does this affect its toughness? It mustn't be enough where you Nathan, think that it is not worth the better balance.
But also, i've seen a youtuber who stupidly and unrealistically hates any blade skeletonized and says it they are weak. I don't buy into this. But then he took a rock and dropped it on a ¼inch thick elmax blade handle and in the 2nd go, it snapped.
0.25 inch elmax and it broke like nothing!

This is unrealistic and why you'd ever need to do that to a knife I do not know. But I also couldnt believe how easy it broke.

So loved to hear your thoughts Nathan and or fellow c.o.c.ks
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#notnathan
People that purposely drop or slam rocks on knives shouldn’t own knives.
Also, I think it would depend more on the steel and heat treat than the skeletonization of the handle.
Elmax is brittle compared to 3V. I think it was its chippy nature that made Nathan use it only in a limited fashion before moving on.
Elmax has less than half the toughness rating as standard 3V with industry standard heat treat.
This is all mostly speculation on my part because I don’t really know anything about this stuff. But I’m procrastinating doing my actual job so I thought I’d waste some time responding.
 
XtianAus said:
Nathan the Machinist Nathan the Machinist i'd love to hear your thoughts on this if you have time.

Here this in the random thought thread incase anyone else has any insight, experience or thoughts on this.
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I know a lot of time and effort goes into skeletonizing the scales to get the balance right. It'd be much easier and cheaper not to skeletonize it.

I am wondering how much does this affect its toughness? It mustn't be enough where you Nathan, think that it is not worth the better balance.
But also, i've seen a youtuber who stupidly and unrealistically hates any blade skeletonized and says it they are weak. I don't buy into this. But then he took a rock and dropped it on a ¼inch thick elmax blade handle and in the 2nd go, it snapped.
0.25 inch elmax and it broke like nothing!

This is unrealistic and why you'd ever need to do that to a knife I do not know. But I also couldnt believe how easy it broke.

So loved to hear your thoughts Nathan and or fellow c.o.c.ks
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If someone really looks at the the skeletonization that we do on our knives and compare it to some of the skeletonizing that I have seen on other knives, you will note that I'm not particularly aggressive with material removal and we leave meat where it is stressed.

Any optimized design, where weight is a consideration, will remove material in areas where that material is not contributing to the strength. The way my knives are skeletonized, something else will fail before the skeletonization does.

This is one reason why, in my durability demonstration videos, I run the knives tip first through concrete with hammer blows to the butt. If the skeletonization was going to be an issue, it would show.

There is no way you're going to drop a rock (or anything else) on any of my knives and get them to break because of the skeletonization.

So, absolutely, removing material from the tang of the knife is not going to strengthen the knife and, done improperly, it can compromise the structural integrity of that knife. There are tons of examples out there that I have seen that I could show but I don't want to throw other makers under the bus. But if you look for them, it's obvious. And if you compare theirs to mine, there is a difference.

I have a degree in product design and significant professional experience as a design engineer in product and process optimization. I'll bet you a dollar I know more about the subject than that YouTube guy.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
If someone really looks at the the skeletonization that we do on our knives and compare it to some of the skeletonizing that I have seen on other knives, you will note that I'm not particularly aggressive with material removal and we leave meat where it is stressed.

Any optimized design, where weight is a consideration, will remove material in areas where that material is not contributing to the strength. The way my knives are skeletonized, something else will fail before the skeletonization does.

This is one reason why, in my durability demonstration videos, I run the knives tip first through concrete with hammer blows to the butt. If the skeletonization was going to be an issue, it would show.

There is no way you're going to drop a rock (or anything else) on any of my knives and get them to break because of the skeletonization.

So, absolutely, removing material from the tang of the knife is not going to strengthen the knife and, done improperly, it can compromise the structural integrity of that knife. There are tons of examples out there that I have seen that I could show but I don't want to throw other makers under the bus. But if you look for them, it's obvious. And if you compare theirs to mine, there is a difference.

I have a degree in product design and significant professional experience as a design engineer in product and process optimization. I'll bet you a dollar I know more about the subject than that YouTube guy.
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Amazing. Thank you very much for replying! That makes a lot of sense and I trust your opinion over any other maker, which is why 99% of what I own are CPKs.
 
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