Random Thought Thread

Nathan the Machinist said:
I could be wrong but, I think I used the ladder in the manner it was intended.

It's a large stout heavy duty pallet on a 16K forklift that weighs over 20,000 lb, it's about a solid as the ground up there.

The ladder was attached to the pallet and leaned solidly at the top in a steady stable manner, similar to how I've used ladders in the past to get onto a roof or clean gutters etc.

Obviously the height is a concern. But I maintained three points of contact and the ladder was steady. I'm sure I'm missing something and grossly underestimating the risk, but, other than the height, it didn't seem that sketchy to me. Although, I don't proclaim to really know what I'm talking about either. I would like to hear more of your thoughts on the matter. Always open to critique and an education.
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One concern I would have that is that if you were cutting on the tree limbs ( can’t see what you were doing) there might be a sudden shift in weight could cause the limb the ladder is against to also shift causing mayhem 😳 or trees gonna tree and act all crazy.

Years ago my brother was cutting up a large tree that had fell over due to a storm. The trees root base was spread out probably due to tree type and that it was next to a lake.. He was standing on the tree cutting limbs and moved to the ground and began cutting more. Not sure if he was cutting a large branch or had cut enough of the smaller branches, but suddenly the tree shot upright like a catapult due to the heavy root base and the loss of weight keeping the tree on its side.
This is a large tree and if he was standing on it would have sent him flying in the air or something worse.

I was working on a ladder and thankfully the guy I was working with told me to tie the ladder to the structure I was wiring a j box on. I would have never thought at that time the ladder was going to slip out from under me. Thankfully there weren’t two accidents 🤣

I know life has risks and we can’t fret over everything otherwise nothing would get done. Like you mentioned, there are possibly things we miss in every situation and hindsight is usually 20/20 😁 glad you’re open to suggestions and opinions.

Plus we can’t have you hurt, production would suffer 😉

Stay safe everyone 👻
 
carnifex knifeworks said:
I'm sure it's not lost on your colon either. Johnny Cash singing "Ring of Fire" comes to mind
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Nah. I'll eat a couple of Mark's habaneros with my lunch on Saturdays. There's probably not more capsation in that little piece of reaper that I ate than in those two habaneros.

My gut is used to it

But there's a big difference in your mouth between eating a hot pepper with food, and eating an extremely hot pepper by itself. My mouth still doesn't feel completely right.

For the life of me I do not understand why people eat reapers. About melted my face. It literally left parts of my mouth literally numb.
 
Jason M D. said:
One concern I would have that is that if you were cutting on the tree limbs ( can’t see what you were doing) there might be a sudden shift in weight could cause the limb the ladder is against to also shift causing mayhem 😳 or trees gonna tree and act all crazy.

Years ago my brother was cutting up a large tree that had fell over due to a storm. The trees root base was spread out probably due to tree type and that it was next to a lake.. He was standing on the tree cutting limbs and moved to the ground and began cutting more. Not sure if he was cutting a large branch or had cut enough of the smaller branches, but suddenly the tree shot upright like a catapult due to the heavy root base and the loss of weight keeping the tree on its side.
This is a large tree and if he was standing on it would have sent him flying in the air or something worse.

I was working on a ladder and thankfully the guy I was working with told me to tie the ladder to the structure I was wiring a j box on. I would have never thought at that time the ladder was going to slip out from under me. Thankfully there weren’t two accidents 🤣

I know life has risks and we can’t fret over everything otherwise nothing would get done. Like you mentioned, there are possibly things we miss in every situation and hindsight is usually 20/20 😁 glad you’re open to suggestions and opinions.

Plus we can’t have you hurt, production would suffer 😉

Stay safe everyone 👻
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Yeah, I had the bottom of the ladder fixed and the top of the ladder tied

I attempted to cut a girdle around the limb and cut a wedge out the bottom and then come down the top until it started to move but it started moving sooner than we thought it would so I went ahead and scrambled down

I had a chain tied out a ways and we hooked it to the Entwistle and pulled it down. I didn't want to be anywhere near that thing when it came off so I did not cut it all the way through
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I could be wrong but, I think I used the ladder in the manner it was intended.

It's a large stout heavy duty pallet on a 16K forklift that weighs over 20,000 lb, it's about a solid as the ground up there.

The ladder was attached to the pallet and leaned solidly at the top in a steady stable manner, similar to how I've used ladders in the past to get onto a roof or clean gutters etc.

Obviously the height is a concern. But I maintained three points of contact and the ladder was steady. I'm sure I'm missing something and grossly underestimating the risk, but, other than the height, it didn't seem that sketchy to me. Although, I don't proclaim to really know what I'm talking about either. I would like to hear more of your thoughts on the matter. Always open to critique and an education.
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Considering that I don't always have a real good idea of what I'm babbling on about, as well as going off the picture instead of actually being there, I probably assumed a couple things - one of them not knowing how secure the pallet was, and also not knowing that the ladder was secured, but that does take some of the sketchy out of it. The only other thing I'd throw out would be the possible use fall arrest gear, but it's not like everybody has easy access to it and guessing you don't moonlight as an arborist very often. I'll also concede that you're pretty f'ing smart, and I'd guess not too awful reckless, and again, I'm looking at it from a couple thousand miles away.

One of the idiots I put in an ambulance was standing on the top rung of a 12' ladder and leaning out to one side to unscrew a shackle from a D ring. When he freed up the shackle he was after, the weight of the chain attached to it took him straight down as he was off balance and didn't let go in time. The part that really got me though, was that there was a 16' ladder about 20' away but he was either too lazy or in too much of a hurry to fetch it. He ended up with a shattered ankle, but could have been a lot worse. I had a guy on another job that was oblivious to his surroundings and didn't realize how close to an edge he was, he took a step backwards and fell about 8'. Got away with a half dozen stitches and a hematoma that went from his shoulder to his elbow on the outside of his arm. Seen a couple less than pleasant incidents with lifts as well, but those were also completely avoidable and a result of people just not thinking, or being in the lower percentile. Just think about how dumb the average person is, and then think about the fact that half of them are dumber than that (I know, I'm mixing median with average).

I'm certainly not suggesting you fit in that group, but forklifts, ladders, and other fall hazards always make me nervous and I'm used to seeing lazy people do stupid things. I saw a guy in Mexico one time working on a building being put up. He had a waist belt instead of a harness and it was attached with a hemp rope to a point about 3' below the scaffolding he was standing on. He either would have broke his back, or the rope would have parted when it came tight. I haven't actually seen this one in person, but this picture always cracks me up and was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the pallet on the lift. Can't see all of your lift, but guessing it's good for 15 tons or more, so unlike these geniuses it's not gonna tip over on you.

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Most nurses will tell folks that if they could ban two things in this world, it would be ladders and motorcycles, and since I still ride after getting a trip in a helicopter to the trauma center I may not be the best person to offer advice in a lot of areas. And again, I know I didn't have all the facts and I also very much assume you have a pretty good idea of what you're doing (well, hopefully since I buy your knives), so apologies if my post came across judgy or condescending, but ladders and forklifts kinda scare me.

Winston
 
Winston_Smith said:
Considering that I don't always have a real good idea of what I'm babbling on about, as well as going off the picture instead of actually being there, I probably assumed a couple things - one of them not knowing how secure the pallet was, and also not knowing that the ladder was secured, but that does take some of the sketchy out of it. The only other thing I'd throw out would be the possible use fall arrest gear, but it's not like everybody has easy access to it and guessing you don't moonlight as an arborist very often. I'll also concede that you're pretty f'ing smart, and I'd guess not too awful reckless, and again, I'm looking at it from a couple thousand miles away.

One of the idiots I put in an ambulance was standing on the top rung of a 12' ladder and leaning out to one side to unscrew a shackle from a D ring. When he freed up the shackle he was after, the weight of the chain attached to it took him straight down as he was off balance and didn't let go in time. The part that really got me though, was that there was a 16' ladder about 20' away but he was either too lazy or in too much of a hurry to fetch it. He ended up with a shattered ankle, but could have been a lot worse. I had a guy on another job that was oblivious to his surroundings and didn't realize how close to an edge he was, he took a step backwards and fell about 8'. Got away with a half dozen stitches and a hematoma that went from his shoulder to his elbow on the outside of his arm. Seen a couple less than pleasant incidents with lifts as well, but those were also completely avoidable and a result of people just not thinking, or being in the lower percentile. Just think about how dumb the average person is, and then think about the fact that half of them are dumber than that (I know, I'm mixing median with average).

I'm certainly not suggesting you fit in that group, but forklifts, ladders, and other fall hazards always make me nervous and I'm used to seeing lazy people do stupid things. I saw a guy in Mexico one time working on a building being put up. He had a waist belt instead of a harness and it was attached with a hemp rope to a point about 3' below the scaffolding he was standing on. He either would have broke his back, or the rope would have parted when it came tight. I haven't actually seen this one in person, but this picture always cracks me up and was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the pallet on the lift. Can't see all of your lift, but guessing it's good for 15 tons or more, so unlike these geniuses it's not gonna tip over on you.

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Most nurses will tell folks that if they could ban two things in this world, it would be ladders and motorcycles, and since I still ride after getting a trip in a helicopter to the trauma center I may not be the best person to offer advice in a lot of areas. And again, I know I didn't have all the facts and I also very much assume you have a pretty good idea of what you're doing (well, hopefully since I buy your knives), so apologies if my post came across judgy or condescending, but ladders and forklifts kinda scare me.

Winston
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I didn't take it as judgy or condescending at all. But I probably don't take things that are actually intended to be judgy or condescending that way either. I'm not easily offended.

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It's a pretty stout pallet. A sawmill shipped on it.


The lift itself has a pretty wide stance and is essentially a rock. I think it weighs 22,000 lbs.

But yeah, it did look pretty sketchy. I had an F-550 dock height flatbed with a ladder on it going over to a skid on a forklift at the top of its range, leaning against a tree limb. Definitely looks pretty sketchy.
 
Why is it that when I don’t order anything, UPS or any other carrier for that matter, always comes early in the day for my neighbors. But when I do, my stuff usually comes at the end of the delivery time window 😡

Shouldn’t ask for more patience lol.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
Literally just now

"What are the peppers on this plant. They look funny" -nate

"I don't know they weren't labeled they were on the discount rack" -mark

"Let's try it" -nate

We tried the scorpion tail and it wasn't that bad.

Then we cut out a chunk of the flesh and ate it

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That my friends is a goddamned Carolina reaper

Fuck!

We're both suffering from just that little piece

I don't even know where to safely throw it away

Evil nasty ass pepper. Should not exist.

It has been almost 15 minutes and I'm still suffering.
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At least neither of you are this guy, no idea of whether he can swim or not but if so it's definitely in the shallow end of the gene pool.


Winston
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I didn't take it as judgy or condescending at all. But I probably don't take things that are actually intended to be judgy or condescending that way either. I'm not easily offended.
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Appreciated, I'd make a snarky comment about that being a good thing since you moderate a forum on the internet where most people are very easily offended (the internet in general, not here. Crap, probably almost offended someone) which thankfully doesn't really apply here.

Been on various truck, motorcycle, watch, gun, and other forums and leave almost as soon as I get there since, well, it's the internet. Not that all of the other BF subs are drama free (and a shameless bit of apple polishing here but my hat is off to the supers for all the shit they have to put up with in some of them) but at least you don't have much in the way of babysitting here to interfere with your real job.

In closing, don't fall and stop eating peppers you can't identify. That should be Mark's job, kinda like being the royal taster or something...

Winston

ETA - I probably don't take things meant to be judgy or condescending that way either, but it's mostly because often times I'm fairly oblivious to what's going on around me.
 
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Winston_Smith said:
Appreciated, I'd make a snarky comment about that being a good thing since you moderate a forum on the internet where most people are very easily offended (the internet in general, not here. Crap, probably almost offended someone) which thankfully doesn't really apply here.

Been on various truck, motorcycle, watch, gun, and other forums and leave almost as soon as I get there since, well, it's the internet. Not that all of the other BF subs are drama free (and a shameless bit of apple polishing here but my hat is off to the supers for all the shit they have to put up with in some of them) but at least you don't have much in the way of babysitting here to interfere with your real job.

In closing, don't fall and stop eating peppers you can't identify. That should be Mark's job, kinda like being the royal taster or something...

Winston

ETA - I probably don't take things meant to be judgy or condescending that way either, but it's mostly because often times I'm fairly oblivious to what's going on around me.
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A lot of people seem to really enjoy getting offended. It's all a part of the recreational outrage that's the big thing these days.

Those people don't last for a long around here though
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I didn't take it as judgy or condescending at all. But I probably don't take things that are actually intended to be judgy or condescending that way either. I'm not easily offended.

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EDC added for scale.

It's a pretty stout pallet. A sawmill shipped on it.


The lift itself has a pretty wide stance and is essentially a rock. I think it weighs 22,000 lbs.

But yeah, it did look pretty sketchy. I had an F-550 dock height flatbed with a ladder on it going over to a skid on a forklift at the top of its range, leaning against a tree limb. Definitely looks pretty sketchy.
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In?


Did I win the EDC?????


Lolz
 
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