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SharpBits said:
Those No-Spill cans are the best I have used. Still compliant, but they actually work as advertised. Downside is slightly higher price and still a two handed can. No one hand pours, if that matters to you.
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I love them. I have 8 of the 5 gal and 3 smaller ones. Nice to get can in position for atv’s/snowmachines and then let it pour. Just have to remember to open the twist a bit when sitting or they will build up serious pressure.
 
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I use a lot of five gallon fuel jugs, mainly for diesel, because most often my machine is somewhere a truck cannot access. The No-spill cans are okay. I can get about four or five years out of one before they fail. The problems I have seen with them are the spouts become quite brittle as they age and will split easily. This doesn't render the can or spout, unusable, but it does make it something you have to be careful with making a mess, as you will have a split stream effect like you just finished participating in a gang bang and decided to take a piss. Second failure is, as mentioned before, they will seal tight and build pressure and balloon considerably. It can be alleviated by loosening the tops, but then you can also draw moisture in are the temps drop over night if you fail to retighten. The more times they balloon, they will split the friction welds of the seam, most often in the top of the tank between the handle and the spout. Once that happens, its time for a new can. You may be able to reseal it by heating a flat blade and essentially, rewelding it, but it wont hold any pressure at that junction again, and will split if it does. The second thing it does when it builds pressure, is it delaminates the plastic of the jug itself, and you will end up with fuel trapped in this void between the inside of the tank, but not leaking out of the tank. It is kinda hard to describe, but you will end up with a tank that looks like it has fuel in it, but you are just looking at fuel trapped under the "skin" if that makes sense. Again, once that happens, I consider those cans compromised in terms of assuring my fuel is one, contained, and two, protected from contamination.

Now, for the smaller cans, used for saws and stuff, the No-spills are really hard to beat. However, for five gallon gasoline or diesel cans, I have switched to the ones made by Sure Can. They have proven to be more durable, tougher and haven't demonstrated any of the issues I have seen with the No-spills. They are, unfortunately, expensive as fuck for what they are, but they outlast and out perform the No-spill cans for most all of my needs, YMMV.
 
Grenock said:
I use a lot of five gallon fuel jugs, mainly for diesel, because most often my machine is somewhere a truck cannot access. The No-spill cans are okay. I can get about four or five years out of one before they fail. The problems I have seen with them are the spouts become quite brittle as they age and will split easily. This doesn't render the can or spout, unusable, but it does make it something you have to be careful with making a mess, as you will have a split stream effect like you just finished participating in a gang bang and decided to take a piss. Second failure is, as mentioned before, they will seal tight and build pressure and balloon considerably. It can be alleviated by loosening the tops, but then you can also draw moisture in are the temps drop over night if you fail to retighten. The more times they balloon, they will split the friction welds of the seam, most often in the top of the tank between the handle and the spout. Once that happens, its time for a new can. You may be able to reseal it by heating a flat blade and essentially, rewelding it, but it wont hold any pressure at that junction again, and will split if it does. The second thing it does when it builds pressure, is it delaminates the plastic of the jug itself, and you will end up with fuel trapped in this void between the inside of the tank, but not leaking out of the tank. It is kinda hard to describe, but you will end up with a tank that looks like it has fuel in it, but you are just looking at fuel trapped under the "skin" if that makes sense. Again, once that happens, I consider those cans compromised in terms of assuring my fuel is one, contained, and two, protected from contamination.

Now, for the smaller cans, used for saws and stuff, the No-spills are really hard to beat. However, for five gallon gasoline or diesel cans, I have switched to the ones made by Sure Can. They have proven to be more durable, tougher and haven't demonstrated any of the issues I have seen with the No-spills. They are, unfortunately, expensive as fuck for what they are, but they outlast and out perform the No-spill cans for most all of my needs, YMMV.
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Good to know, thank you. My oldest one is close to ten years old at this point, but it doesn't sit in the sun.
 
Grenock said:
I use a lot of five gallon fuel jugs, mainly for diesel, because most often my machine is somewhere a truck cannot access. The No-spill cans are okay. I can get about four or five years out of one before they fail. The problems I have seen with them are the spouts become quite brittle as they age and will split easily. This doesn't render the can or spout, unusable, but it does make it something you have to be careful with making a mess, as you will have a split stream effect like you just finished participating in a gang bang and decided to take a piss. Second failure is, as mentioned before, they will seal tight and build pressure and balloon considerably. It can be alleviated by loosening the tops, but then you can also draw moisture in are the temps drop over night if you fail to retighten. The more times they balloon, they will split the friction welds of the seam, most often in the top of the tank between the handle and the spout. Once that happens, its time for a new can. You may be able to reseal it by heating a flat blade and essentially, rewelding it, but it wont hold any pressure at that junction again, and will split if it does. The second thing it does when it builds pressure, is it delaminates the plastic of the jug itself, and you will end up with fuel trapped in this void between the inside of the tank, but not leaking out of the tank. It is kinda hard to describe, but you will end up with a tank that looks like it has fuel in it, but you are just looking at fuel trapped under the "skin" if that makes sense. Again, once that happens, I consider those cans compromised in terms of assuring my fuel is one, contained, and two, protected from contamination.

Now, for the smaller cans, used for saws and stuff, the No-spills are really hard to beat. However, for five gallon gasoline or diesel cans, I have switched to the ones made by Sure Can. They have proven to be more durable, tougher and haven't demonstrated any of the issues I have seen with the No-spills. They are, unfortunately, expensive as fuck for what they are, but they outlast and out perform the No-spill cans for most all of my needs, YMMV.
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Was actually going to mention SureCan. The design is really convenient for things like filling up a lawnmower or other smaller engines, as you can just direct the spout into the filler, then pull the trigger while standing upright, vs bending over and tilting a 5 gallon can.

Their warranty and customer service is also exemplary. I have great neighbors, and we tend to look out for each other. Before the neighbor’s youngest son got married and moved out, he would clear the snow in my driveway when we weren’t home, and he was clearing their own driveway.

He’d seen me using a SureCan (it’s now over a decade old and still working well), and thought it was great, so I bought one for him as a way of saying thanks.

A few months later, he told me that it had started leaking at the base of the spout (not good, as the connection is at the base of the can), so he called their CS to see if he could buy a replacement spout to fix it. They asked where and when he purchased it. When he told them it was gifted to him just a few months prior, they said, “I see. What’s your shipping address?”. Brand new can showed up the following week.

While the CS is great, and my can has held up well for over a decade (and is WAY better than whatever plastic crap you can find at Walmart, as far as gas fumes leaking on a hot day goes) - that it CAN start leaking from the connection at the base of the can, is troublesome.

The best cans I have, are the 5 gallon Wavian NATO gas cans ( damn, those have gotten expensive). The oldest ones I’ve had are still working great. Even on trips where the Wavian cans were in a black SUV baking in the summer sun for hours, there was ZERO gas odor. They seal up better than any plastic cans ever could, with that cam design (and you can buy replacement sets of the o-rings for the cap, that eventually do age).

That coupled with the D-cell battery operated fuel transfer pumps, make the best combo (no need to lift the gas can. Just stick the input tube/shaft in the can. Stick the nozzle in whatever you’re filling, and pull the trigger. I prefer the D-cell powered ones, along with a stash of NiMh D- cells, vs the rechargeable ones).
 
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