Random Thought Thread

[oldmanwilly]

What is the consensus on using .357 Mag for bear defense? Is it enough or is .44 Mag the baseline?

 

[toker]

What is the consensus on using .357 Mag for bear defense?

Nike Pegasus.

 

[jlauffer]

Yeah .... I do carry BB or Underwood when hiking. In 45 Auto, since that's one of the 3 calibers that I support.

Repost from another forum:

Just was wondering what other people do ... (and change the subject per Casinostocks instructions.

I'm no expert, but really doubt a BB gun is going to cut it.

 

[Murphjd25]

Interview went really good. Will know in about 4 days if a new chapter is starting!

 

[tinfoil hat timmy]

What is the consensus on using .357 Mag for bear defense? Is it enough or is .44 Mag the baseline?

Baby bears or the fru fru human kind id say yes .357 is enough

 

[oldmanwilly]

Nike Pegasus.

Tau Upsilon

 

[Casinostocks]

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Just was wondering what other people do ... (and change the subject per Casinostocks instructions.

Instructions? Nah, I am a nobody, peasant and pleb! I merely made a suggestion because I can't shake the images of that street vendor guy with one arm while improvising with the other armpit in food prep

 

[ferider]

What is the consensus on using .357 Mag for bear defense? Is it enough or is .44 Mag the baseline?

There is this Luckygunner video, if you search: they reviewed bear/gun incidents, quite interesting. 44 Mag used to be the baseline. In the last decade or so, this has switched to 10mm, maybe because Glocks are cheaper and lighter than revolvers ?

Anyways, I understand from the same video that .357 Mag or even 9mm (147gr +P) can be sufficient. Mostly depends on shot placement and your nerves, I'm guessing.

 

[Nathan the Machinist]

Black bears like we have in North carolina, a Glock 40 and 10 mm would be pretty good. The bear bullets are heavy, non-expanding, with a flat nose. These tend to stay straight and hit vitals. Conventional wisdom says that, unlike people, you don't want an energy dump with a handgun on a bear, you need the round to go straight through a lot of bone and muscle and actually hit something that might stop it.

Grizzly bear, I would want at least a 44 mag. Smith & Wesson 500 would be better. Really, anything that doesn't require bruising a shoulder is probably pretty borderline for a grizzly I would think.

For an auto, I would think a desert eagle, or something like the LAR grizzly or even an old Auto mag in .45 Magnum (←these fuck). My uncle, who used to work in the Alaskan oil fields, carried the desert eagle in 44 mag.

From my reading, it sounds like there is no handgun that is going to make an altercation with a grizzly "safe". They're too big, too powerful, and too fast. So I think the answer is, the most powerful handgun you can carry. If it were me it would be a Smith & Wesson 500.