Random Thought Thread

Never heard of it. Not my style of music either.

Good show. I’d say the first season was exceptional.

The actor, Michael Dorman, does all of the music…in the first season he plays guitar and sings folk music about his intelligence operations (using this term very loosely).

This song is from the second season where he suffering from a head injury and likely some ongoing mental health problems, but is trying to stay on task to kill an Iranian official in France. This season’s music is all accompanied by a full band and appears to be in his mind....I suspect the show is trying to offer some insight into his troubled thoughts while working on behalf of the U.S.

Anyway, this show is definitely not for everyone. But the way it handles aspects of violence and identity resonate with me. And it is hilarious.
 
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I think it’s a lot more to do with the primitive aspect of the current “Us vs Them” cultural dichotomy.

I get the Brother vs Brother. Then brothers vs Dad. Family vs Family, Neighborhood vs Neighborhood, Country vs Country dynamic.

But it’s moved to the extreme for our standards. Not historical standards. Tribes used to settle these matters through outright extermination of one another not long ago.

For decades certain groups of people have seemed to believe themselves better or superior to the “other” without any valid premise but that has never been the case. I think your average human is capable of the same level of evil as any other and that groups of people are adopted to their environment. In all the places I’ve lived, several continents now the average person is the same no matter what. They want the same things. Secure food supplies, clean water, appropriate housing, wise-spread security, access to the economy, opportunities for their children and so on. There are still the exceptions as their always has been of course. But all in all.

In-groups and out-groups will always be a thing, I get that. We prove unable or unwilling to see ourselves in one another.

I’m not talking about racism or classism either. Just good old fashioned ignorance.

I was taught at the most basic level that generally speaking in most societies Conservatives value tradition and work to uphold traditional values.

Progressives are the ones that come up with the new ideas and push the envelope.

Conservatives fight against those ideas, and that’s good, they keep some of the bad ones out.

But some of the ideas are accepted, and become ideas that the Conservatives then fight to protect.

It’s possible a person can play both roles in their life.

No one said one side was a terrible Nazi etc.

The division, the constant attacks of one another. It’s like many in the west just follow leaders now, they follow a cult of personality.

They don’t discuss and argue policy or support individuals in one area but not in another. They go to get an opinion from someone they think is right.

Really, it reminds me of the study with the Monkeys in an enclosure with a hose and bananas on top of a ladder. Let me see if I remember it correctly.

Short version is scientists put monkeys in an enclosure with a ladder in it. They suspended bananas above the ladder. Whenever a monkey went to grab the bananas they sprayed the monkey with a hose. I think they sprayed other monkeys too.

The monkeys learned to not go up the ladder and eventually they all stopped.

Then the scientists replaced one monkey with a new one. That monkey saw the bananas but the other monkeys stopped him from going up the ladder.

This process continued till all the monkeys had been replaced, and no monkey in the enclosure had been sprayed, but no monkey went up the ladder.

A younger me noted this horizontal reinforcement and I still see it in the world all the time. I wondered, why didn’t the Monkeys all band together and figure out who has the hose. Then it could be bananas for all. One big happy monkey family getting along and sharing bananas.

An older more cynical me thinks that the monkeys did in fact figure out who had the hose. Instead of getting along in happy banana land, they now fight to see who gets to control the hose, the one ring or “the legitimate use of violence in a given geographic area.”

Thanks for the very thoughtful post Justin. :thumbsup:

It makes me ponder the reason(s) behind my frequent placement as the 11th monkey on Nathan’s 10 banana sales every other Friday. Did I get hosed or are there a shortage of ladders? Should I mail-in my ballot early to pick any banana before I have all the information to know which is the best banana to choose?

Life gets so deep sometimes...

Phil
 
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I watched the documentary of Laird Hamilton surfing the first big wave, something like 93 feet. It genuinely is a pass/fail environment. If he failed it would have, by all accounts, killed him. I'm not a surfer, but watching the film was awe inspiring. At one point he pivoted to drag is outside hand, which really ought not to be done. But he was in a zone and it had to be done for whatever reason. It should not have worked, and if it hadn't it also could have been the end. He had it dialed in that day, I guess.
 
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