Random Thought Thread

Grenock said:
I don’t think Frankie saw that match.......
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You know it’s bad when the entire match fits into a gif... That was a well set up shot, too. Frankie didn’t even see it coming.

Maybe i’m getting old but all I see now is young guys waiting in line for CTE. All this warrior jive just to spend your middle age with chronic shakes, permanent pain, and memory loss.
 
So, I don't know if this is the right place for this but...it's bugging me and I wouldn't mind an/some outside opinion(s).

I have an item listed for sale. It isn't a knife, and it isn't listed here I promise I'm not trying to stir up any drama. It is too much hassle to ship so I'm trying to sell it locally. When I went to bed last night I had a buyer lined up, an agreed upon price and time for the exchange. As of this morning they have decided they no longer want to pay the agreed upon price, but they still want the item at a lower price. Here's the thing; if the lower price was what we had agreed upon before, I would have been perfectly happy with it. I understand haggling and trying to save money, I get that, but I dislike negotiating in bad faith.

Just briefly about the item before I get to my question. My fiancée...dislikes it and in all honestly I'm pretty ambivalent to it. In the moment it seemed like a good idea, but the novelty wore off in like a day. It's been stored away for months. I originally listed it for roughly 13 times more than I paid for it. The original agreed upon price was 10 times what I paid. What they are offering now is like 8.3 times.

So, my question is this: am I a moron for passing up the money to stand on principle, or should I take the cash and be happy I made a profit while quietly seething about how the transaction was handled? Normally I'd stand on principle...but my fiancée thinks I should take the money (mostly I think she wants it out of the house, because she normally backs my standing on principle plays.).
 
Notaflashyguybyanymeans said:
So, I don't know if this is the right place for this but...it's bugging me and I wouldn't mind an/some outside opinion(s).

I have an item listed for sale. It isn't a knife, and it isn't listed here I promise I'm not trying to stir up any drama. It is too much hassle to ship so I'm trying to sell it locally. When I went to bed last night I had a buyer lined up, an agreed upon price and time for the exchange. As of this morning they have decided they no longer want to pay the agreed upon price, but they still want the item at a lower price. Here's the thing; if the lower price was what we had agreed upon before, I would have been perfectly happy with it. I understand haggling and trying to save money, I get that, but I dislike negotiating in bad faith.

Just briefly about the item before I get to my question. My fiancée...dislikes it and in all honestly I'm pretty ambivalent to it. In the moment it seemed like a good idea, but the novelty wore off in like a day. It's been stored away for months. I originally listed it for roughly 13 times more than I paid for it. The original agreed upon price was 10 times what I paid. What they are offering now is like 8.3 times.

So, my question is this: am I a moron for passing up the money to stand on principle, or should I take the cash and be happy I made a profit while quietly seething about how the transaction was handled? Normally I'd stand on principle...but my fiancée thinks I should take the money (mostly I think she wants it out of the house, because she normally backs my standing on principle plays.).
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No, the buyer is a dirt bag and you're better off filming yourself burning the item and sending that to him.
 
Notaflashyguybyanymeans said:
So, I don't know if this is the right place for this but...it's bugging me and I wouldn't mind an/some outside opinion(s).

I have an item listed for sale. It isn't a knife, and it isn't listed here I promise I'm not trying to stir up any drama. It is too much hassle to ship so I'm trying to sell it locally. When I went to bed last night I had a buyer lined up, an agreed upon price and time for the exchange. As of this morning they have decided they no longer want to pay the agreed upon price, but they still want the item at a lower price. Here's the thing; if the lower price was what we had agreed upon before, I would have been perfectly happy with it. I understand haggling and trying to save money, I get that, but I dislike negotiating in bad faith.

Just briefly about the item before I get to my question. My fiancée...dislikes it and in all honestly I'm pretty ambivalent to it. In the moment it seemed like a good idea, but the novelty wore off in like a day. It's been stored away for months. I originally listed it for roughly 13 times more than I paid for it. The original agreed upon price was 10 times what I paid. What they are offering now is like 8.3 times.

So, my question is this: am I a moron for passing up the money to stand on principle, or should I take the cash and be happy I made a profit while quietly seething about how the transaction was handled? Normally I'd stand on principle...but my fiancée thinks I should take the money (mostly I think she wants it out of the house, because she normally backs my standing on principle plays.).
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Hard to say without knowing what the item is, but unless I needed medication or something, I wouldn't knowingly do business where the seller's margin is 800-1300%.
On the other hand I wouldn't arrange to meet someone and then back out either...
 
Notaflashyguybyanymeans said:
So, I don't know if this is the right place for this but...it's bugging me and I wouldn't mind an/some outside opinion(s).

I have an item listed for sale. It isn't a knife, and it isn't listed here I promise I'm not trying to stir up any drama. It is too much hassle to ship so I'm trying to sell it locally. When I went to bed last night I had a buyer lined up, an agreed upon price and time for the exchange. As of this morning they have decided they no longer want to pay the agreed upon price, but they still want the item at a lower price. Here's the thing; if the lower price was what we had agreed upon before, I would have been perfectly happy with it. I understand haggling and trying to save money, I get that, but I dislike negotiating in bad faith.

Just briefly about the item before I get to my question. My fiancée...dislikes it and in all honestly I'm pretty ambivalent to it. In the moment it seemed like a good idea, but the novelty wore off in like a day. It's been stored away for months. I originally listed it for roughly 13 times more than I paid for it. The original agreed upon price was 10 times what I paid. What they are offering now is like 8.3 times.

So, my question is this: am I a moron for passing up the money to stand on principle, or should I take the cash and be happy I made a profit while quietly seething about how the transaction was handled? Normally I'd stand on principle...but my fiancée thinks I should take the money (mostly I think she wants it out of the house, because she normally backs my standing on principle plays.).
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I'm with Fonedork Fonedork . Absolutely no way I would sell at the lower rate to the buyer trying to welch on the deal. I have a special anger toward buyers and sellers who engage in this sort of dirtbaggery.

As a buyer I have at times accepted this sort of dishonorable activity from sellers (in fact, one of my first CPK knives was purchased from someone who decided to jack the price up after we had agreed to a price. The knife is worth it, but I am still salty), but that was always from the position of having no choice if I wanted to land the item. If I am selling, then there is no way in hell I am selling to someone who won't stick to an agreement.

If you sell the item for less to someone else, that would be fine, but don't sell to the dirtbag.
 
When I was in the auto business and every time when I had really had literally bent over backwards to make a sale happen, I ended up getting bit in the arse pretty badly. It never failed without exception, despite auto sales people consistently being in the top 5 for generally being the sleaziest and most loathed people! Be fair and honest but don't break the most important idiom and maxim: if something is too good to be true, it probably is (not). This applies both ways when it comes to a sale ;)
 
000Robert said:
If I wanted to get rid of it, then I would've counter-offered the middle price of what yall agreed upon and what they changed their offer to.
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Not me. I would have countered with something higher than we previously agreed. Then when he went back to our previously agreed price as being “ok” I would just tell him he missed that deal. It’s now the higher price.
 
Odog27 said:
Not me. I would have countered with something higher than we previously agreed. Then when he went back to our previously agreed price as being “ok” I would just tell him he missed that deal. It’s now the higher price.
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I might do that if I really didn't care to get rid of it very bad. But if I wanted to get rid of it and nobody else wanted it, I would take as much money that I could get.
 
How much does your fiance dislike this item, and how likely are you to marry her? Happy wife = Happy life.

Personally, I wouldn't do business with this guy - if you agree to 8.3:1, five will get you ten he'll come back with 6:1. But if he was going to pay 8.3:1, I figger you can find someone else who will pay at least 5 or 6:1. Seems like the most important thing here is to get rid of it - the huge profit is just gravy.
 
I have never marked anything up like that. The only time I've ever marked stuff up that I was reselling was when it was purchased broken and sold repaired etc. I guess it depends on who you are, who they are, and what you're selling? If we are talking about a kilogram of cocaine I say take it. Otherwise, I would walk. Life is too short to work with people like that.
 
I am in Odog’s camp. It sounds like a want to sell item, not a have to sell. If it was the other way around, you wouldn’t be asking. Frankly, I could care less if you are losing a ton or making a ton on the sale, it isn’t relevant as I see it. You all had an agreement, he tried to change it at the last moment. He obviously wants it, he just wants it for less. He opened up the negotiation again in bad form. Like Odog, I would be countering with something closer to the original asking price and see how he likes the idea of that. The whole deal would likely fall through at that point, but I am kinda an ahole like that and wouldn’t care. Good luck however you choose to handle it.
 
Lorien said:
probably Gamestop shares
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I wish it were Gamestop shares, though honestly I would have sold long ago. Or Doge. Doge is going to be the one that bugs me. I thought about buying in back in November when I first started people pushing it. It was like .0028 or something. Anyway, in this instance it's a crystal eagle sculpture. When I was younger and had the time and flexibility, I made my living selling collectables (now I just do it sometimes). Back then I would have rudely told this person to kick hot rocks in flip flops. But I don't know, I guess I'm trying to take a more measured approach to things these days. Call it maturity, or something. So I figured I'd ask. Maybe I was in the wrong, it has been known to happen.

I truly appreciate all of the responses. It was nice to hear it approached from different ways. Thank you all very much.
 
MHO;

It's best to consider these kinds of possibilities in advance. There are always people like that, who will try to renege or renegotiate.

Best response is, "Oh? Ok, nevermind then, I'll call the 2nd guy who made the same offer. Told him I was holding it for you, but since you don't want it at that ptice, I'll let the other buyer know".

The usual response is, "Oh, wait... let me try to make some adjustments...", before they accept the agreed upon price.

Your margins have no bearing on the sale. I've gotten lucky finding things for 10% of the retail price. Doesn't mean I have to pass it on at that price, when the average market price is still way higher.
 
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