RAT Pro Survival / E&E Pocket Kits

[Stump_250]

who will carry the Pro Survival and pocket kits?

 

[wildmike]

I'd would also like to know who will be carrying the kits?

 

[R.A.T.]

So far we have pre-orders from the following:

Blue Ridge Knives
Cumberland Knife Works
One Stop Knife Shop
Tactical Response Gear
Knife Center of the Internet
KnifeWorks
JB Outman Distributing
Knives Ship Free

What we haven't told them yet is the price is going up slightly since we have added a couple of items to the kit since SHOT show.

Contents:

PSKT Pocket Container Cordura Nylon Made in the USA (about 5" x 3.5" x 1.75")
Pencil
Mini Pry Bar
Survival Saw Blade w/Handle Derma Safe
Orginal SAS Wire Saw BCB - NATO Approved
Surgical Scalpel w/Handle Derma Safe Orange
Explorer Button Compass BCB - NATO Approved
BCB Howler Whistle
P38 Can Opener Stansport 3 - 1 Can Opener
Mayday Signal Mirror BCB - NATO Approved
Ranger Fire Starting Flint BCB - NATO Approved
Tinder Tabs Tinder Quik Fire Tabs
Water Treatment Tabs MicroPur Water Purification Tabs
Fresnel Lens Fire Starter
Utility Wire (Brass - 10 Feet)
EL Wood Braiding, Type 1A MilSpec Cord
Aloksak Bag
Hideaway plastic handcuff key

Personal Survival Fishing Kit
Heavy Duty Zip Lock
Tomato Seed Lure
#4 Bait Holder
#6 Bait Holder
#10 Bait Holder
Split Shot
Fishing Line (12lb, 30 yds)
California Warning Label
Hand Needles
Safety Pins

Mini First Aid Kit
Non Aspirin Tablets (2 pk)
Aspirin Pack (2 pk)
Imodium (1 Pk)
Medi-lyte (2 Pk)
Triple Antibiotic Ointment
Band-Aids
Steri Strip Bandage
Lip Balm
Sting Relief
Sun Screen Packet
Insect Repellent Wipes
Alcohol Wipes
2 x 2 Gauze w/Haemostatic Clotting Agent
3/0 Nylon Suture - Reverse Cutting Needle

 

[texastonydobbs]

So far we have pre-orders from the following:

Blue Ridge Knives
Cumberland Knife Works
One Stop Knife Shop
Tactical Response Gear
Knife Center of the Internet
KnifeWorks
JB Outman Distributing
Knives Ship Free

What we haven't told them yet is the price is going up slightly since we have added a couple of items to the kit since SHOT show.

Contents:

PSKT Pocket Container Cordura Nylon Made in the USA (about 5" x 3.5" x 1.75")
Pencil
Mini Pry Bar
Survival Saw Blade w/Handle Derma Safe
Orginal SAS Wire Saw BCB - NATO Approved
Surgical Scalpel w/Handle Derma Safe Orange
Explorer Button Compass BCB - NATO Approved
BCB Howler Whistle
P38 Can Opener Stansport 3 - 1 Can Opener
Mayday Signal Mirror BCB - NATO Approved
Ranger Fire Starting Flint BCB - NATO Approved
Tinder Tabs Tinder Quik Fire Tabs
Water Treatment Tabs MicroPur Water Purification Tabs
Fresnel Lens Fire Starter
Utility Wire (Brass - 10 Feet)
EL Wood Braiding, Type 1A MilSpec Cord
Aloksak Bag
Hideaway plastic handcuff key

Personal Survival Fishing Kit
Heavy Duty Zip Lock
Tomato Seed Lure
#4 Bait Holder
#6 Bait Holder
#10 Bait Holder
Split Shot
Fishing Line (12lb, 30 yds)
California Warning Label
Hand Needles
Safety Pins

Mini First Aid Kit
Non Aspirin Tablets (2 pk)
Aspirin Pack (2 pk)
Imodium (1 Pk)
Medi-lyte (2 Pk)
Triple Antibiotic Ointment
Band-Aids
Steri Strip Bandage
Lip Balm
Sting Relief
Sun Screen Packet
Insect Repellent Wipes
Alcohol Wipes
2 x 2 Gauze w/Haemostatic Clotting Agent
3/0 Nylon Suture - Reverse Cutting Needle

California Warning Label LOL is it because they need instructions not to poke themselves or is it the cancer warning for lead

 

[R.A.T.]

lead warning

 

[okbohn]

I am very excited about these -- we were in the process of putting together a survival kit when these were announced. I tossed all of my research stuff in the trash because I knew these would be just the ticket!

 

[R.A.T.]

For their size, these kits are very well-stocked with quality items. Did a lot of research when we were putting this together, everything from MiG Pilot E&E kits to numerous emails and phone conversations with some SERE buddies. No doubt there will always be something else that should have gone in there but it's pretty well covered. The only thing we suggest adding is some cash and a lock pick and tension tool (we didn't do it since we sell to every state and there are legal restrictions in some states).

Kit is designed to easily carry on you without being too cumbersome. If the SHTF then you can adjust the tools and kit accordingly. For example, if you go to a hostile zone where you may get nabbed, then the cuff key would come out of the kit and slip into a seam on your underwear or pants before you put yourself into the danger zone. Another good tool that is not in there that you can easily add is a guitar string. I've known guys who actually thread a guitar string down the inseam of their pants when working in hostile zones. They usually let you keep your pants if you're nabbed.

 

[FortyTwoBlades]

For their size, these kits are very well-stocked with quality items. Did a lot of research when we were putting this together, everything from MiG Pilot E&E kits to numerous emails and phone conversations with some SERE buddies. No doubt there will always be something else that should have gone in there but it's pretty well covered. The only thing we suggest adding is some cash and a lock pick and tension tool (we didn't do it since we sell to every state and there are legal restrictions in some states).

Kit is designed to easily carry on you without being too cumbersome. If the SHTF then you can adjust the tools and kit accordingly. For example, if you go to a hostile zone where you may get nabbed, then the cuff key would come out of the kit and slip into a seam on your underwear or pants before you put yourself into the danger zone. Another good tool that is not in there that you can easily add is a guitar string. I've known guys who actually thread a guitar string down the inseam of their pants when working in hostile zones. They usually let you keep your pants if you're nabbed.

I keep a set of jiggler-style lock pick keys in my bag. I've actually had to use them a few times when I'm a big dummy, too. Lock picks are kind of one of those items you never ever need...until you do. :thumbup:

 

[R.A.T.]

I have kept a pick and tension tool in my wallet for years. Saved me several times when I left the keys somewhere else.

 

[ChrisF]

I've known guys who actually thread a guitar string down the inseam of their pants when working in hostile zones. They usually let you keep your pants if you're nabbed. [/QUOTE]

I have to ask--what do you use the guitar string for?

 

[Don Rearic]

(quoting Jeff)"I've known guys who actually thread a guitar string down the inseam of their pants when working in hostile zones. They usually let you keep your pants if you're nabbed."

I have to ask--what do you use the guitar string for?

Well, besides probably a dozen other uses, you could use it to kill someone if you had to. A guitar string is basically an old cheesecutter and the British SOE and American OSS used them for garrotting people. The "survival wire saw" came about because they examined items that could serve many different survival purposes. Cheesecutters and especially the Gigli Bone Saw inspired the whole garrotte-to-wire saw concept.

If a person were going to carry such a thing, they should check out GHS Bass Guitar Strings designed for the Steinberger Guitar. A guitar string has a ball on the end. It's actually an eye, but it is called a ball. The Steinberger Guitars were no-headstock guitars and the string locked at the nut and the bridge and that means they require a double-ball string which a regular guitar does not. Slip some gutted ParaCord sheath through both eyelets (balls) and you have handles so you won't cut yourself.

 

[Don Rearic]

Wha? Were you expecting something more romantic like playing La Bamba on a street corner in La Union, El Salvador?

 

[bearthedog]

Here are some left over pics from the SWAT article I did on the kit. I must also mention that a good friend of mine is in the Army special forces and he left for some missions Afghan and Iraq around the same time I left to Australia. The kit pictured in the article is the same exact one I sent him for his use. He thinks it is the perfect kit and I will try to get him to write a review on his experience with it! Thanks again RAT and Derrick for the gear you sent him.

 

[Don Rearic]

Do you think you will like the new softcase instead of a hardcase?

I have sort of drifted over the past couple of years, actually, fluctuating between soft and hard cases. But the new zip up soft case, I think, is going to be a better carrier for it.

 

[wildmike]

This kit is damn close to the E&E kit we carried in Force Recon. It's just missing a few specialty items that I think you would have some problems coming up with in the civilian world. Personaly I prefer the gigli saw to the wire saw, but I have been blessed with knowing a friendly large animal vet.

 

[texastonydobbs]

I really like the see thru top cover .

 

[fatheadhill]

those look great! I think I'll be ordering one when they become available!

 

[Don Rearic]

This kit is damn close to the E&E kit we carried in Force Recon. It's just missing a few specialty items that I think you would have some problems coming up with in the civilian world. Personaly I prefer the gigli saw to the wire saw, but I have been blessed with knowing a friendly large animal vet.

Mike,

Were you issued one of these kits?

http://www.donrearic.com/usmcskit.html

Never mind the broken links in the article. I have to get a program again to update the site after two computer crashes last summer, software is expensive.

The articles linked inside that article can be found on the survival page:

http://www.donrearic.com/survival.html

What are the few specialty items you are referring to?

 

[RickJ]

I am in the Army and would love to know and see these Specialty Items that you are talking about. I am always trying to improve my E&E Kit so any info would be great!

RickJ

 

[Don Rearic]

Just exactly how much interest do you think there would be in a "Nuts & Bolts" E & E booklet on how to get out of handcuffs and a few other restraints as well as lockpicking under emergency/adverse conditions?