Rating Cold Steel Knives?

Wow....
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The funny thing is that he has no Idea the Size of the Shoe he is Chewing on. Or just how many others now have to look at the sole of their shoes to see what they have been standing in, and at the company they have been keeping. He was a little too honest when he said he played a small part. He is just a Co-Star, but one that couldn't keep his mouth shut when he needed to.

Thanks Wave, for many you have proven my point.
 
If you search out and buy the steak and not the sizzle there are some very good knives. Any of the Large High Carbon Bowies (Recon Scout to Natchez) knives are great. The San Mai III Bowies are right there or better in every way if you have the bucks for the bang. Of the 6 different Espadas only the Large suits me because of the enormous size of the XL and some fit and finish concerns with the G-10s. The direction that Cold Steel has taken with the Micros and Minis baffles me. I didn't know the market needed anymore 3" and smaller knives.

If you have the dollars for a good folder I would look for some of the Custom Series from a few year back on the second market or go with the original Espadas. All in all a good line up with a few holes and a few glaring missteps IMHO. They have some Bizarre Gorilla Marking, some hit or miss Customer Service and a devoted Fanboy and Hateboy Base. On the extremes and on the fringe Cold Steel does well.
 
What you seem to be unable to grasp is that Every person you ever trolled, annoyed, or sent insulting/threatening PM's to had a hand in your demise it is just you are too vain and stupid to realise or accept it. That's right the reason you got booted out of that forum is YOU. You are the reason you are no longer welcome there, it was because of your behaviour that people got sick and tired of hearing you whine and be the professional victim after you started the argument.

You chose to act that way nobody made you, just the same as you and you alone have chosen to make these ridiculous insulting posts here , You say how bad CS knives are and yet is has been you who have been making money selling them . In this thread alone you contradict yourself about what these knives are like first you say they are rubbish then do an about turn. It must be confusing with all those voices in your head , you should listen to the one that says you should stay away from computers.This is the last post in relation to you, how about you get over yourself and let the thread continue as the OP intended. Not everything is about you.

but one that couldn't keep his mouth shut when he needed to.
you should learn this well yourself.
 
This isn't really the best direction to go with this thread and it is cross forum attacks and once the Mods see it they aren't going to be pleased lets just say.

So the smart thing to do would be to resort to PM's for that and stick to the OT for posting.

Also just a thought, but those posts could be edited also. ;)
 
I will only judge CS on the one that I own. Med Voyager Clip point. It is the newer 2011 with stonewashed blade and Tri Ad lock. I would give it an overall 9/10. On value it gets a 10/10. Hard to find a $35 knife with this much value. The way Buck does a great job heat treating it's 420 steel is the same with CS AUS8. It takes a great edge and doesn't take all day to get there. Holds an edge well.
This is my first CS but not my last.
 
The Cold Steel Voyager was my first "real" knife (a few decades ago), it was purchased based on being a solid knife at a good price. If I hadn't attempted to modify it so much it would still be one of my better folders.
 
Pocket bushman. 10/10 for intended use, 8/10 for EDC.

It's great in the forest and fields, but for normal situations it gets a lot of attention and is a bit too big for simple chores.

The same goes for the kudu, but because it can be so easily modified and is so inexpensive it has loads of potential.
 
In this thread alone you contradict yourself about what these knives are like first you say they are rubbish then do an about turn. It must be confusing with all those voices in your head , you should listen to the one that says you should stay away from computers.

I don't recall saying that all Cold Steel is Rubbish. I do think they have have made some bad choices in materials and have had some serious Quality Control Problems. Obviously I think they have made some bad administrative choices in their forums. Some they have admitted privately and publicly and some they have not.

One thing is very clear. There are People there that have been so emotionally and physically injured by accidents that they hold themselves responsible for in their real life that they must act out with rage were they can inside public forums under cover with the safety of anonymity. And now one or more of them has come here. While I do have a certain amount of pity for these people I do not need to be the renewed object of his or their misplaced self hatred over past losses that they suffered.

Talking knives and posting Editorial Photos is fun but it isn't worth this.
 
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IMO they make good products. The owner seems to be a bit unusual but I wasn't aware of any ethical problems with the company. I see no problems with their videos, in fact I applaud a company that tests their products and builds products that will perform beyond their intended use. I know that if I buy a Cold Steel knife, and they make several inexpensive fixed blades that I'm interested in as using knives, that it will stand up to spirited use.
 
I have an old original Master Hunter and a boar spear. Both work. th knife cuts and the spear has actually dispatched a couple of hogs. To me, the blade on the Master Hunter could use some taper. Like I said, I have had the Master Hunter for a LONG time. Back then, I don't think that you could find a comparable knife in that price range. That is not the case now.
 
I have owned 2 Vaquero Grandes, 2 Voyager XLs, a Recon 1, an AK-47 ultra lock, and a Rajah II. Most I have sold, but the ones I kept are really good for the money. They both have the Tri-ad lock, and have zero play in any direction. They both came razor sharp, and they're both freaking huge. Awesome 9/10!
 
I have an old original Master Hunter and a boar spear. Both work. th knife cuts and the spear has actually dispatched a couple of hogs. To me, the blade on the Master Hunter could use some taper. Like I said, I have had the Master Hunter for a LONG time. Back then, I don't think that you could find a comparable knife in that price range. That is not the case now.

I have a new model Master Hunter san maiIII, and they feature a distal taper now. Revisit the MH you will be impressed I reckon.


I have 19 Cold Steel knives, ranging from their top of the line to their budget versions, from that point of view I rate CS as 9/10.
 
Let me put it like this:

Marketing is can lead to sale of a knife...or NOT. In my case it is NOT.

They may be fantastic knives, but I have yet to be convinced to buy one. I am not dissing or hating on anything or anyone...I have just never felt the desire to buy a Cold Steel product, and their marketing has a lot to do with it.

I felt the same way you do right now for ten years. In that time, I bought probably fifteen or twenty knives that didn't have cheesy marketing, but I overpaid quite a bit for a small piece of steel with an edge on it. For what I do with knives, I don't think I should spend much more than $10-20 for something serviceable. And guess what? It took me ten years of overspending to realize that I should do just that. Spend $10-20 and never look back.

So, for a paring knife, I look no further than Victorinox. I can cut the wishbone out of a chicken with it, and that's what I want it to do for me. Kitchen shears? I use EMT shears and cut right through the middle of the spine of a chicken so half comes out on one side and half on the other. And I snip off the ass for the stock pot, but you don't need EMT shears for that.

For a letter/package opener, what the hell is wrong with me for going over $10-20? I have a sharpmaker, I can sharpen a knife, so no need to put my nose in the air over my choice of a small folding pocket knife. Or the tiny little Swiss Army multitool on my keychain, or the $17 AAA LED flashlight I keep there, either.

Once I broke my cherry and bought some cheap stuff I got over the Cold Steel marketing and just looked at the products. It's hard though, and I want to acknowledge that it's hard, to look past insulting marketing that a carnival barker would turn red over, and just look at the product and see if it does what you want it to do. I'm extremely satisfied with my Cold Steel products despite the absolutely laughable marketing crap they churn out.

I'm very dissatisfied with my experiences with Smith and Wesson's licensing crap. Falling apart days later.

Lucky for me I found bladeforums, so my future pocket knife purchases will likely be from Opinel or one of the other reputable manufacturers who do a more than thorough job that will serve me well for a lifetime. Including Cold Steel. They make a hell of a Trail Hawk, and I got a really nice handmade sheath from one of the members here.
 
I love all of my coldsteel knifes. Only problem I have had is on a CS gunsite which seems to be stiffer to open then all the others. I can open it one handed easily but it doesnt flick out via gravity and a snap of my wrist like some of my other large knifes.
 
I don't own a CS knife so I'm not gonna rate the company.. but I will say that the marketing is a BIG turn off. Plus, alot of their products just look hokey to me.. and when you have marketing like that, it's easy to lose confidence especially when theres no lifetime warranty.. I mean, you talk alot of smack, why not back it up with a warranty??? Prolly because they know that alot of "Cold Steel buyers" are the kind of immature people that buy into that kinda marketing crap and abuse their knives..
I'm not saying anyones an idiot for buying CS.. just doesn't inspire confidence in me.
I will say that in the future I will buy a medium Voyager and prolly a Recon 1, so maybe my views will change. I just seem to get a bad vibe when I think about the company compared to say, Spyderco or Benchmade..
 
I don't own a CS knife so I'm not gonna rate the company.. but I will say that the marketing is a BIG turn off. Plus, alot of their products just look hokey to me.. and when you have marketing like that, it's easy to lose confidence especially when theres no lifetime warranty.. I mean, you talk alot of smack, why not back it up with a warranty??? Prolly because they know that alot of "Cold Steel buyers" are the kind of immature people that buy into that kinda marketing crap and abuse their knives..
I'm not saying anyones an idiot for buying CS.. just doesn't inspire confidence in me.
I will say that in the future I will buy a medium Voyager and prolly a Recon 1, so maybe my olviews will change. I just seem to get a bad vibe when I think about the company compared to say, Spyderco or Benchmade..
I agree with some of your points. Some of their products scream "mall ninja". Recently got my first CS. A med Voyager & I am very impressed. One word to describe - Overbuilt. Not going to buy any throwing stars. Pick and choose wisely.
 
I don't rate the companies so much as each individual model and its combination of design, features, materials, build quality, suitability for a particular application, and value. There are numerous models of knives from some of the major manufacturers (including Spyderco, Cold Steel, etc) that I've liked - - and some of their other models that I didn't like. For my applications, I rate the CS large AK-47 with Demko Triad lock as one of the best tactical folders out there. And, I own some folders that cost many times as much as that knife. Some of their other models, I don't like at all. Like other major manufacturers in this business, CS is capable of building some excellent products. - - I'm to the point now that I don't care if a compnay advertises their knives wearing a clown suit - as long as its a well designed and built knife that will do what I want, at a good price.
 
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